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BU 2013-2014: Ready to Quinn

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one of the funniest moments at a foh banquet was jack saying that fishy was supposed to be there to give an award, but had a better offer. peter was at harvard's season ending banquet to receive his own award - an anniversary mvp for the 1989 beanpot. :D
 
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defkit said:
If I stretch it to 25 years, here are the candidates, IMHO:

Cashman
McKersie
Herlofsky
Larocque
Fields
Curry
Millan

For all the hype around DiPietro, he played one year, including splitting time with Jason Tapp (!) for the first half of the season. And his stats weren't that great. Noble helped us win a title, but I don't think he belongs in the group.
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One thing that needs to be considered is the Fields played behind some of the worst teams in BU history, yet he stole a lot of games and even earned MVP honors in losing tournaments. He was unflappable. BU always had a chance when Fields was in goal because he seemed to thrive on the pressure.

Herlofsky was better than McKersie.

The most underrated of the bunch, and maybe the best of this lot, was Larocque. So solid and consistent!

Going back even further, I think Parker made a big mistake by sticking with the rotation and playing Bradley over Cashman in the NCAA final against Northern Michigan. Cashman eventually replaced Bradley, but BU would have had a better chance with Cashman starting that game. Bradley was disappointing until having a stellar senior year, but Cashman was much stronger.

And going back even further, Parker broke the Craig and Durocher rotation for the 1978 NCAA Tournament, and it was the right decision. Durocher, like Millan, was best as freshman, and then again as a senior but had a terrible junior year.
 
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RefereeGrav said:
Also please rank the goalies that have caused you to lose the most sleep. Candidates include..
Jason Tapp
Carson Gillespie
Grant Rollheiser
Brett Bennett
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My brother goes to a few games every year and he rated Tapp the "least safe" BU goalie that he's ever seen. And he has been going to games since Durocher and Devlin.

I think Bennett was the most disappointing. How many goals did he give up with his back to the play? He was awful. Gillespie was also disappointing, beaten out by Curry. He had a decent senior year after three disappointing years.

Rollheiser was a decent backup. He wasn't great, he wasn't terrible. Same with Siwiec.
 
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Harry Cleverly said:
Rollheiser was a decent backup. He wasn't great, he wasn't terrible. Same with Siwiec.
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Don't forget that Rollheiser got the start on the last game of the RS, against UNH I think, in 2009 that won us the HE regular season title.

And I believe Siewec was in net for a big Beanpot win against BC(?). While it may have been due to injury, he had a stellar game. I don't recall the details.

So yeah, I agree, they were both ok.
 
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RefereeGrav said:
Also please rank the goalies that have caused you to lose the most sleep. Candidates include..
Jason Tapp
Carson Gillespie
Grant Rollheiser
Brett Bennett
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Of this bunch, Bennett was the worst. Fundamentally awful.

Someone below mentioned Bryan LaFort. Compared to him, all of the guys listed above are Terry Sawchuk. He was the Babe Ruth of bad goaltending.
 
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DiPietro was our best goalie because I've never seen anybody playing that position on any level affect the offense like he did. His ability to dig the puck out of the corner and pass it up ice made the entire team look good, from the poor defense to the no talent offense. IIRC the wheels fell off the year after he left as nobody was getting lead passes over the D at mid-ice to break in alone on the goalie.

For making saves, easily John Curry. That guy set the record for most "bullsh !t" saves I've ever seen, as in that's what you say after he makes a nearly impossible stop. I was at Harvard once where he made like 7 in the 1st period in what ended up as a tie game but should have been a 5 goal loss.

Tapp was the worst goalie, but in his defense I don't think he was ever meant to be a starter. Bennett gets that honor for biggest flameout in net.
 
Harry Cleverly said:
One thing that needs to be considered is the Fields played behind some of the worst teams in BU history, yet he stole a lot of games and even earned MVP honors in losing tournaments. He was unflappable. BU always had a chance when Fields was in goal because he seemed to thrive on the pressure.

Herlofsky was better than McKersie.

The most underrated of the bunch, and maybe the best of this lot, was Larocque. So solid and consistent!

Going back even further, I think Parker made a big mistake by sticking with the rotation and playing Bradley over Cashman in the NCAA final against Northern Michigan. Cashman eventually replaced Bradley, but BU would have had a better chance with Cashman starting that game. Bradley was disappointing until having a stellar senior year, but Cashman was much stronger.

And going back even further, Parker broke the Craig and Durocher rotation for the 1978 NCAA Tournament, and it was the right decision. Durocher, like Millan, was best as freshman, and then again as a senior but had a terrible junior year.
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If FIelds played on some of the worst teams in BU history and his teams won 2 beanpots and went to 2 tournaments, then what do we consider recent years?
 
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RefereeGrav said:
If FIelds played on some of the worst teams in BU history and his teams won 2 beanpots and went to 2 tournaments, then what do we consider recent years?
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They have finished below .500 3 times in the past 25 years. 2 of those 3 were in his 4 years. Skladany was probably the top forward going into Fields' senior year it took him til the last game of the season to get his 3rd goal.
 
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defkit said:
Don't forget that Rollheiser got the start on the last game of the RS, against UNH I think, in 2009 that won us the HE regular season title.

And I believe Siewec was in net for a big Beanpot win against BC(?). While it may have been due to injury, he had a stellar game. I don't recall the details.
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The RS clinching game was against a woeful PC team in 09, a nice win, but wasn't anything terribly spectacular. The game that sticks out for Rollie in that season to me was when he relieved Kieran at UMass in February early in the second when we were down 3-0, and shut them out the rest of the game in a rocking Mullins Center, while the team scored six unanswered, including a natural hat trick from Lawrence.

Siewic got the 2-1 W in the 2005 Beanpot opener against #1 BC when Curry got injured in the previous game against Merrimack (shocker!) That's about the only game of note he had, but it was a heck of a performance that night.
 
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I know I've said this before but Fields really was fantastic in the BU net and he is terribly underrated looking back historically IMO. Wasn't a fan of his glove saves at his skate toe that he ended up turning into a windmill save every time but the kid stood on his head against superior BC teams more than I care to remember.

Tapp was so bad it was kind of sad to watch. How did he end up a starter over there?
 
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I'm not sure it's fair to put Rollie on that "lose sleep over" list…. I think he got pulled in that penalty filled debacle at RPI… other than that I can't think of any particularly bad performances. It's just that he was here when Millan was here… in another situation he may have played more.
 
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Carmine Scarpaglia said:
Tapp was so bad it was kind of sad to watch. How did he end up a starter over there?
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DiPietro was not expected to be one and done. That weird rule meant he had to opt in and give up his eligibility, if he wanted to take advantage of the hype that built up over him and the fact that his draft year was otherwise weak on goalies, whereas the next season included two or three supposed gems (including Marc Andre-FLeury, if memory serves.

DiPietro leaving after one year, plus Bennett being much worse than expected, both of those did some damage. When was Sebastian LaPlante supposed to arrive before he changed his mind?
 
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I'd say the Bennett / Gillespie combo in 07/08 probably would have to go down as losing the most sleep over. To me that team felt like they should have been an NCAA team apart from the goalie situation. Heck people were calling on Parker to start the third string goalie midway through the season…when had we ever seen that before? I think Bennett was supposed to be a real recruiting win too…. boy was everyone wrong on that one.
 
defkit said:
DiPietro was not expected to be one and done. That weird rule meant he had to opt in and give up his eligibility, if he wanted to take advantage of the hype that built up over him and the fact that his draft year was otherwise weak on goalies, whereas the next season included two or three supposed gems (including Marc Andre-FLeury, if memory serves.

DiPietro leaving after one year, plus Bennett being much worse than expected, both of those did some damage. When was Sebastian LaPlante supposed to arrive before he changed his mind?
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ricky's leaving also caused fields to come a year early.
 
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Rover said:
DiPietro was our best goalie because I've never seen anybody playing that position on any level affect the offense like he did. His ability to dig the puck out of the corner and pass it up ice made the entire team look good, from the poor defense to the no talent offense. IIRC the wheels fell off the year after he left as nobody was getting lead passes over the D at mid-ice to break in alone on the goalie.

For making saves, easily John Curry. That guy set the record for most "bullsh !t" saves I've ever seen, as in that's what you say after he makes a nearly impossible stop. I was at Harvard once where he made like 7 in the 1st period in what ended up as a tie game but should have been a 5 goal loss.

Tapp was the worst goalie, but in his defense I don't think he was ever meant to be a starter. Bennett gets that honor for biggest flameout in net.
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I don't know if DiPietro was the best goalie, but certainly he was the best puckhandler. How many times did he wait for the opponents to be on a change, then headman a pass sending a forward, usually Corazzini, in on a breakaway?

Curry was not just a great goalie, but an unmatched competitor, too. Like Gilroy, a walk-on who became an All-American.

Tapp kicked around the low minors for about seven years, but since then has been a very successful goalie coach at Union.
 
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ericredaxe said:
I'm not sure it's fair to put Rollie on that "lose sleep over" list…. I think he got pulled in that penalty filled debacle at RPI… other than that I can't think of any particularly bad performances. It's just that he was here when Millan was here… in another situation he may have played more.
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Was Rolheiser the one who got sent to the penalty box at Conte?

Outside of that one I don't think I've ever seen that.
 
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Invitees to final Junior National Team Camp: O'Regan, Grzelcyk, Eichel. Eichel was the only under-ager named.
Only 26 on full roster, which gets pared down to 3 goalies and 20 skaters.
 
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