BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

[Agganis]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

Get good people in here and worry about the stepping stone issue if/when it arrives. If you set up a good department you should have quality people ready to step in if somebody leaves.

Valid, but too much turnover could be harmful to long term plans.

Whether its his job directly (for example, ultimately keeping the athletes under control is his job, and if a coach who is directly responsible can't do that he/she needs to go) or indirectly he hasn't performed well.

Judging his performance for something of this nature is more about his response than that it happened in the first place, unless there were obvious warning signs he missed, but no one (not even Hoky!) predicted incidents were about to occur. Players lost priviledges midseason and a succession plan including the coach retiring at the end of the following season was created and kept private. If that was unsatisfactory what would you propose he do differently? I'm sure you can come up with something else but there is no plan that would be universally approved, such is life.

Attendance at sporting events is 100% his job. Frankly its about his most important duty. If the fan experience sucks, its not the hockey/hoops/badminton coach who's responsible for that. I doubt Quinn suggested 8 dollar beers and 12 bucks to park on campus. That's Lynch's duty and he failed. Great, we've got a new lacrosse field and somebody got New Balance to pony up for it. That doesn't make up for the problems we've been having lately.

There are other employees in the department besides the AD and coaching staffs. Including 8 in the "Marketing" department directory and another 15 on the HAA directory. Much like an AD is ultimately responsible for winning but the day to day events that lead to such results are carried out by coaches, so is the success of other areas of the department. It is also entirely possible his/their goal was to maximize revenue not butts in seats and that the practices you hate did just that.

New Balance field is just the most recent project, there were many others over the past decade, including a $90+m hockey rink.

I know a guy who has great experience in an AD role that isn't doing much lately. He's very expensive though. Make sure to save some room for the plaque in the BU HOF that he'll eventually put up for himself too.

With such an impressive resume I'm worried dozens of other schools will want him in short order

 

[buoldtimer]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

I know a guy who has great experience in an AD role that isn't doing much lately. He's very expensive though. Make sure to save some room for the plaque in the BU HOF that he'll eventually put up for himself too.

My guess is that he's still basking the in the glow of BC's recent success in the NCAA's two major intercollegiate sports.

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[mookie1995]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

Rover right (gasp). News that gets headlines was the scandals. He's the AD. Whether he was "non power" AD doesn't matter. If the role now requires that, his being here for a decade happy to be second fiddle says volumes.
Thanks and good luck.
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[ericredaxe]

From twitter

"Some serious comp in net at BU. Hearing from BCHL that Connor LaCouvee '94 (Alberni) headed this fall. Already Maguire, O'Connor, & Starrett"

And Moccia? 4 goalies? And 4 next year assuming Sarrett next year?

 

[joecct]

I had a martini!!!

USA Hockey's "Everything is wonderful because we say it's so"

 

[defkit]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

I have no inside info whatsoever, but if there really is another guy coming this fall that is more than an emergency back-up, and given the "cuts" that took place, the I would think there is either another cut coming, or DQ is sure that one of the two veretans is not likely to be here in 2015-16. BU has had rosters with three legit goalies in the past (Cashman, Herlofsky/McKersie; Herlofsky/McKersie/Noble), but I don't think they carried a 4th in those years.

 

[Agganis]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

I have no inside info whatsoever, but if there really is another guy coming this fall that is more than an emergency back-up, and given the "cuts" that took place, the I would think there is either another cut coming, or DQ is sure that one of the two veretans is not likely to be here in 2015-16. BU has had rosters with three legit goalies in the past (Cashman, Herlofsky/McKersie; Herlofsky/McKersie/Noble), but I don't think they carried a 4th in those years.

Moccia's freshman year he was technically the 4th string practice goalie behind Millan, Rollheiser, and Kraus. He was not listed on the roster and never dressed but was a member of the team. PC had 4 goalies listed on their roster one year recently as well.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

lynch prolly got let go because someone realized we have THREE exhibitions this year!!!!

 

[ericredaxe]

lynch prolly got let go because someone realized we have THREE exhibitions this year!!!!

Not sure who, but it was making the rounds on twitter that we didn't schedule the u18 team until we found there were no D1 teams available that weekend. Kind of a bummer.

 

[claver2010]

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lynch prolly got let go because someone realized we have THREE exhibitions this year!!!!

and you guys have to shell out $26+ for each

HAHA!

 

[Agganis]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

and you guys have to shell out $26+ for each

HAHA!

Well technically season tickets work out to $19.95, $14.68, or $10.47 a game depending on which of the 3 categories you fall into. So for me it is still cheaper than a movie, for someone over 10 years out of school it is closer to the price you quoted.

But besides that if the question is who I'd rather see the U18s and WJC or Bentley, Holy Cross, and/or Army (those 3 took up 4 of BU and BCs home games last year, and got 2 wins) I'll take the former without hesitation.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

Well technically season tickets work out to $19.95, $14.68, or $10.47 a game depending on which of the 3 categories you fall into. So for me it is still cheaper than a movie, for someone over 10 years out of school it is closer to the price you quoted.

But besides that if the question is who I'd rather see the U18s and WJC or Bentley, Holy Cross, and/or Army (those 3 took up 4 of BU and BCs home games last year, and got 2 wins) I'll take the former without hesitation.

I've never been a big fan of the U18 game, but all in all I like the schedule. I think the WJC game will be really fun (more because of going back to Walter Brown). I also enjoy seeing different teams and wouldn't mind at all an American Hockey team mixed in.... its just that I guess one was not available this year on that weekend.

 

[mookie1995]

Well technically season tickets work out to $19.95, $14.68, or $10.47 a game depending on which of the 3 categories you fall into. So for me it is still cheaper than a movie, for someone over 10 years out of school it is closer to the price you quoted.

But besides that if the question is who I'd rather see the U18s and WJC or Bentley, Holy Cross, and/or Army (those 3 took up 4 of BU and BCs home games last year, and got 2 wins) I'll take the former without hesitation.

Mookie would take real count-in-the-standings games over exhibitions any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

 

[Tater]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

Well technically season tickets work out to $19.95, $14.68, or $10.47 a game depending on which of the 3 categories you fall into.

I had to calculate it myself to believe it. So prices (at least for season tix holders) went down this year, or they added a game or 2 after deciding on the price.

The Walter Brown game is not on the list for the season tickets on the arena website. I would think that would be included but if that game is taken out, the price/game is $21.05 for the regular season ticket package.

While the U-18's are a good Plan B, I'd prefer a real game too, even if it's American International.

 

[Agganis]

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I had to calculate it myself to believe it. So prices (at least for season tix holders) went down this year, or they added a game or 2 after deciding on the price.

The Walter Brown game is not on the list for the season tickets on the arena website. I would think that would be included but if that game is taken out, the price/game is $21.05 for the regular season ticket package.

While the U-18's are a good Plan B, I'd prefer a real game too, even if it's American International.

1 more game at $20 less than last year for general public, faculty, and staff. 1 more game at $100 less than last year for young alums. WBA game they emailed me a form to fill out and send back to get my free tickets.

I get people wanting AIC over the U18s, but I'll take U18s for the possible recruiting benefit. WJC team will be the single best roster to visit BU this year, would I take a real game over a power school like Minnesota or North Dakota over them? Yup. But I'd prefer to see that roster play than a real game against anyone in AHA. Reasonable people are allowed to have different opinions on this though.

The best comparison I can find for it is in the soccer world. Whether you'd want to see the US National Team play someone like Cuba in World Cup Qualifying, or someone like Germany in a friendly that doesn't really matter after the game ends. I'd want to go to both, but prefer the Germany one.

 

[claver2010]

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Well technically season tickets work out to $19.95, $14.68, or $10.47 a game depending on which of the 3 categories you fall into. So for me it is still cheaper than a movie, for someone over 10 years out of school it is closer to the price you quoted.

But besides that if the question is who I'd rather see the U18s and WJC or Bentley, Holy Cross, and/or Army (those 3 took up 4 of BU and BCs home games last year, and got 2 wins) I'll take the former without hesitation.

Yeah but add the parking....

For those AHA schools, HC is fine considering BC has history w that school.

I know this is my deadhorse but I never want to see Army again at Conte. I was literally uncomfortable sitting and watching that, BC essentially instituted the 5 pass rule after 20 minutes and looked downright disappointed when they scored. I left early I was so uncomfortable with what was going on. Now if they were beating up on some other tomato can that's a different story (I thoroughly enjoyed the 9-2 W over Wisco and the 8-2 W over Ped St) but the fact that it was Army didn't sit right at all.

 

[Bomber]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

lynch prolly got let go because someone realized we have THREE exhibitions this year!!!!

I thought you loved exhibitionism.

 

[mookie1995]

The U18 kids are already bought and paid for by the time they play here. No recruiting benefit whatsoever ('Cept for grandpie Jrrry up the road where everyone is still fair game! )

I thought you loved exhibitionism.

Different

 

[Agganis]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

The U18 kids are already bought and paid for by the time they play here. No recruiting benefit whatsoever ('Cept for grandpie Jrrry up the road where everyone is still fair game! )

I believe it was either Clendening or Nieto who committed during the week the U18s visited BU. Probably Clendening because that just works with your BC tie in .

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: BU 2013-2014 (Part III): Close your eyes, we're coming up on the end here...

Mookie is pretty much correct. By the time the U18 team plays here, most of them are already committed somewhere. There are a few who have not but that is the exception and not the norm.