theprofromdover
The Original Dope Detector
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Such elitism, Dope.
Such elitism, Dope.
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Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
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TonyTheTiger20
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Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Great post -- the quality of the women's game has grown incredibly even in the last decade.
TonyTheTiger20
#SOAR
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Dover, srsly, I love you man, but as BC fans I don't really think we have the right to be calling people 'elitists'... we're as elitist as they come.
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
This gave me a chuckle.
Dover, it's hardly elitism if it's the truth. BC is a terrific school, but the minimum standards for athletes are considerably lower than those of Ivy League schools. Do you think Johnny Gaudreau would have gotten into Brown? Yeah, right!
This does not mean the quality of education you can receive at BC is necessarily any lesser (though in reality, it probably isn't quite on par with an Ivy), but rather that the standard for athlete admissions is not as rigid. Also, the whole scholarship thing helps quite a bit.
This gave me a chuckle.
Dover, it's hardly elitism if it's the truth. BC is a terrific school, but the minimum standards for athletes are considerably lower than those of Ivy League schools. Do you think Johnny Gaudreau would have gotten into Brown? Yeah, right!
This does not mean the quality of education you can receive at BC is necessarily any lesser (though in reality, it probably isn't quite on par with an Ivy), but rather that the standard for athlete admissions is not as rigid. Also, the whole scholarship thing helps quite a bit.
theprofromdover
The Original Dope Detector
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Not me. I attended when it was a commuter school and tuition was $1,200 per year.
Not me. I attended when it was a commuter school and tuition was $1,200 per year.
theprofromdover
The Original Dope Detector
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
The old 'big lie'. The Ivies only offer 'financial aid' (wink, wink).
The old 'big lie'. The Ivies only offer 'financial aid' (wink, wink).
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Followed, as usual, by the old "big innuendo." Either the Ivies are pretty clean, or they are able to keep a conspiracy under wraps that involves 8 schools x ~20 teams x ~20 athletes per team = 3200 student athletes each and every year, not to mention the administrators, coaches, etc. Which is more likely?
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Can you pass that information on to Blake Weyrick? Clearly that "arrangement" wasn't discussed when he de-committed.
Thanks! This would be really cool of you.
Can you pass that information on to Blake Weyrick? Clearly that "arrangement" wasn't discussed when he de-committed.
Thanks! This would be really cool of you.
Nick Papagiorgio
Holding court
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
I don't have a problem with pretty much this entire discussion but I get the feeling that you're singling out Gaudreau because he is the best player in college hockey without any real knowledge of whether or not he'd be able to get into Brown. If this was a discussion between Brown and NU fans today (let's assume Wood had committed today to NU instead), would you single out NU's best player and say, "Hey that Kevin Roy kid never would have gotten into Brown!!!" Of course we know differently about that don't we?
I don't have a problem with pretty much this entire discussion but I get the feeling that you're singling out Gaudreau because he is the best player in college hockey without any real knowledge of whether or not he'd be able to get into Brown. If this was a discussion between Brown and NU fans today (let's assume Wood had committed today to NU instead), would you single out NU's best player and say, "Hey that Kevin Roy kid never would have gotten into Brown!!!" Of course we know differently about that don't we?
MarkEagleUSA
C'mon Q!
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
For as big a fan as you are, that's no way to talk about your hockey team!
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
The band and the hockey team are an accurate reflection of each other these day!
(Kidding, obviously)
For as big a fan as you are, that's no way to talk about your hockey team!
The band and the hockey team are an accurate reflection of each other these day!
(Kidding, obviously)
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Very fair point. I totally agree that it isn't right to single out Gaudreau, and I do owe an apology for that. Perhaps a generalization would have been better- there are many players who play and who have played in the past for BC, BU, NU, PC, etc. (all very good schools) that were good hockey players and reasonably smart kids, but who would not have gotten in to an Ivy League institution. Miles Wood is the latest example of this.
Very fair point. I totally agree that it isn't right to single out Gaudreau, and I do owe an apology for that. Perhaps a generalization would have been better- there are many players who play and who have played in the past for BC, BU, NU, PC, etc. (all very good schools) that were good hockey players and reasonably smart kids, but who would not have gotten in to an Ivy League institution. Miles Wood is the latest example of this.
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
As KFBS said, Weyrick is an example of this "big lie" being proven to be a truth. The financial aid, as has been discussed in this thread for the past few weeks, is distributed on a basis of necessity. Weyrick's family, among other students who attend Brown who may have earned full academic scholarships to other schools based on merit, did not qualify for the financial aid package they were looking for.
So, yeah, if a player comes from a lower income background, he or she might receive a full ride to Brown. But financial aid is not distributed based on academic or athletic merit.
As KFBS said, Weyrick is an example of this "big lie" being proven to be a truth. The financial aid, as has been discussed in this thread for the past few weeks, is distributed on a basis of necessity. Weyrick's family, among other students who attend Brown who may have earned full academic scholarships to other schools based on merit, did not qualify for the financial aid package they were looking for.
So, yeah, if a player comes from a lower income background, he or she might receive a full ride to Brown. But financial aid is not distributed based on academic or athletic merit.
hockeyplayer1015
Capt
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Lorito out 6-8 weeks (OK, rest of the season most likely) with broken leg. Tough break for y'all.
Lorito out 6-8 weeks (OK, rest of the season most likely) with broken leg. Tough break for y'all.
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
I think the question is, rather, "How on earth did Miles Wood lose Brown." Evidently he wasn't even close to the minimum Academic Index required for admission, and knew there was no way he was going to be accepted. Fortunately for Miles there's Boston College. Great hockey program, as we know.
I think the question is, rather, "How on earth did Miles Wood lose Brown." Evidently he wasn't even close to the minimum Academic Index required for admission, and knew there was no way he was going to be accepted. Fortunately for Miles there's Boston College. Great hockey program, as we know.
claver2010
*****
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Is this along the lines of UNH's 'WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN GAUDREAU BUT HE WASN'T ACCEPTED!!11!!!"?
To quote pro, what a bunch of dopes. Decommits happen all the time.
Is this along the lines of UNH's 'WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN GAUDREAU BUT HE WASN'T ACCEPTED!!11!!!"?
To quote pro, what a bunch of dopes. Decommits happen all the time.
Re: Brown Hockey 2013-2014 - Climbing to the Top of the ECAC Ladder
Losing Wood is a loss. I saw him play several times this year and found him to be the most complete player in Prep School but Brown has a great group of recruits coming in 2014 and 2015. Corcoran, Lafferty, Bird, Doherty, Willman and McCarthy for forwards and Cooper and Wynne on defense. With what we have returning and these recruits, I believe we will have several runs at the national tournament and a chance to do some damage.
Losing Wood is a loss. I saw him play several times this year and found him to be the most complete player in Prep School but Brown has a great group of recruits coming in 2014 and 2015. Corcoran, Lafferty, Bird, Doherty, Willman and McCarthy for forwards and Cooper and Wynne on defense. With what we have returning and these recruits, I believe we will have several runs at the national tournament and a chance to do some damage.
Find me another program that has lost its best three recruits in a span of two years.
Also, who in the world can get into BC but not UNH? That's about as silly of a scenario as I've ever heard. That's like getting into Providence but not URI...
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