Re: Brown Hockey 2012-2013:Climbing the ECAC Ladder
To the first piece - agree. I did not go to an Ivy League institution, and BU, NU, and Brown are all substantially higher on the academic scale compared to my mealy-mouthed state school education. And believe me, I'll be the first one to both knock and stick up for my crappy state education. The fact remains that I have a degree, and in the end, it didn't matter for my career path where I got it from. I, in fact, work for a boss who never went to college, so I think it's really splitting hairs if you're ranked 43rd, 12th, or 58th. If you went to any school, that's admirable in and of itself since a degree requires work. And I have a fairly good job in an office in a white-collar environment. And I'm fairly certain I got this job over an Ivy League graduate.
I hate it when people start doing all this crap about "your school isn't my school." The elitist mentality is befitting all of those schools who perpetuate that stereotype. As someone who couldn't get into any of those aforementioned schools, I'm perfectly happy to say I got a darn good degree at a state school, and I've carved a very good living out. The fact that people still thumb their noses at others for where they went to school is nothing more than Ivy League or mini-Ivy, or, *GASP* wanna-be Ivy crap.
The fact remains that a student-athlete can still walk out of college with a degree from a university that is a top-rated college. And whether it's Brown, Northeaster, Boston College, Boston University, or anywhere else like that -- there's still something to be said about that. Take it from someone who didn't have the chance to go to a top-100 school. The ranking isn't everything.
I digress from my first rant to the second part:
I think the argument has digressed from how a player handled the situation to the fact that he screwed Brown. I think, also, that a number of people have lost sight over what the hockey team does. Yes, the hockey team lost a recruit who probably would've been a good player. But, again, I reiterate that the team can still be a collective unit and that one player does not make the entire team. At the same time, while people are saying, "Oh Roy doesn't want to go to Brown because they stink," they're valuing wins and losses over something else. Brown produced a perfect 1,000 in the APR, something BU didn't do, and something NU or UVM definitely didn't do. So, in the end, Brown should only want players who are committed to getting a degree and committed to the program.
Roy isn't committed? Good. See ya later. Don't need you anyways. I don't care how much talent the guy has. Whatever his reasons for leaving are - they're his reasons. I'm not him. I don't even care what he wants to do. He wants to leave? Good. Great. Adios amigo. Good luck, best wishes, and you get to do whatever it is that makes you happy. Like any "employer," you never want to look at someone and say "this is the biggest mistake of your life." You got your reasons, and you have to realize how to accept the consequences of doing making your decision.
We don't care if you're here or if you're at VM, NU, Bentley, AIC, or Quebec. The fact remains that you get to live with your decision to do this 2 months before the school year. You have to realize how that appears.
This comparing education stuff is crazy, all of the schools mentioned in the thread are quality institutions. I'm proud of my Brown degree as well, but we all know the further you go along in your career it is all about what you have done......and what you can offer, not the name of a school on a sheet of paper.
I don't wish that the Roy rot in hell, but there could be a big impact on the program as a whole with this one high profile player leaving the program. I had anticipated with the excitement around this player, we would initially see an increased interest from alums and the students at the early games this season. If winning were to follow, and Meehan was a packed house again - everyone knows that the whole experience changes for the players, the students, the alumns.......and for future players that are considering Brown. I was hoping that a marquee player like Roy might draw another really high profile prospect or two at Brown over the next few years that would really solidify the program. Based on reports, we have a solid incoming freshman class - but Roy was a potential game changer both on and off the ice.
To the first piece - agree. I did not go to an Ivy League institution, and BU, NU, and Brown are all substantially higher on the academic scale compared to my mealy-mouthed state school education. And believe me, I'll be the first one to both knock and stick up for my crappy state education. The fact remains that I have a degree, and in the end, it didn't matter for my career path where I got it from. I, in fact, work for a boss who never went to college, so I think it's really splitting hairs if you're ranked 43rd, 12th, or 58th. If you went to any school, that's admirable in and of itself since a degree requires work. And I have a fairly good job in an office in a white-collar environment. And I'm fairly certain I got this job over an Ivy League graduate.
I hate it when people start doing all this crap about "your school isn't my school." The elitist mentality is befitting all of those schools who perpetuate that stereotype. As someone who couldn't get into any of those aforementioned schools, I'm perfectly happy to say I got a darn good degree at a state school, and I've carved a very good living out. The fact that people still thumb their noses at others for where they went to school is nothing more than Ivy League or mini-Ivy, or, *GASP* wanna-be Ivy crap.
The fact remains that a student-athlete can still walk out of college with a degree from a university that is a top-rated college. And whether it's Brown, Northeaster, Boston College, Boston University, or anywhere else like that -- there's still something to be said about that. Take it from someone who didn't have the chance to go to a top-100 school. The ranking isn't everything.
I digress from my first rant to the second part:
I think the argument has digressed from how a player handled the situation to the fact that he screwed Brown. I think, also, that a number of people have lost sight over what the hockey team does. Yes, the hockey team lost a recruit who probably would've been a good player. But, again, I reiterate that the team can still be a collective unit and that one player does not make the entire team. At the same time, while people are saying, "Oh Roy doesn't want to go to Brown because they stink," they're valuing wins and losses over something else. Brown produced a perfect 1,000 in the APR, something BU didn't do, and something NU or UVM definitely didn't do. So, in the end, Brown should only want players who are committed to getting a degree and committed to the program.
Roy isn't committed? Good. See ya later. Don't need you anyways. I don't care how much talent the guy has. Whatever his reasons for leaving are - they're his reasons. I'm not him. I don't even care what he wants to do. He wants to leave? Good. Great. Adios amigo. Good luck, best wishes, and you get to do whatever it is that makes you happy. Like any "employer," you never want to look at someone and say "this is the biggest mistake of your life." You got your reasons, and you have to realize how to accept the consequences of doing making your decision.
We don't care if you're here or if you're at VM, NU, Bentley, AIC, or Quebec. The fact remains that you get to live with your decision to do this 2 months before the school year. You have to realize how that appears.