What's new
By:
USCHO Fan Forum

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

  • The USCHO Fan Forum has migrated to a new plaform, xenForo. Most of the function of the forum should work in familiar ways. Please note that you can switch between light and dark modes by clicking on the gear icon in the upper right of the main menu bar. We are hoping that this new platform will prove to be faster and more reliable. Please feel free to explore its features.

Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

Status
Not open for further replies.
Kepler said:
Thought the EPL was already working on an end run? Presumably they have more money than the Crown.
Click to expand...
If there’s no deal in place by the time they leave the EU then the PL has no end around to help. They still have to follow British laws, it’s just the PL has been abusing EU worker rules to their benefit for over a decade.
 
Kepler said:
They may also be thinking that the UK leaving and then immediately going into full bore recession will be a nice warning to the remaining members: stay with us if you want to live.

But really the UK doesn't belong in Europe. It's an American forward deployment base, like Israel. Admit the US to the Commonwealth, let Liz be the figurehead and the US (after we depose the shartcannon) run the show. Anglosphere Uber Alles.

US
India
UK
South Africa
Canada
Australia
New Zealand
Ireland
A buncha islands

Nigeria, Kenya, Ghana, and Singapore invited but probably won't join.

Not a bad conference. And the sun never sets.
Click to expand...

I’d be on board with that.
 
Jimjamesak said:
For now.
Click to expand...

Hard to see how she doesn't last until the end of her term. She survived the Tory attempt to unseat her, she survived the overall vote of no confidence, no one in her party wants her job, she's not foolish enough to call for an early general election again and she isn't going to resign. She's it.
 
ticapnews said:
Hard to see how she doesn't last until the end of her term. She survived the Tory attempt to unseat her, she survived the overall vote of no confidence, no one in her party wants her job, she's not foolish enough to call for an early general election again and she isn't going to resign. She's it.
Click to expand...
She’s got time to PO the 10 votes, whether from the DUP or within the Conservative Party, that saved her this time. Frankly, there’s no conceivable way to a Brexit deal that people will be even begrudgenly happy with that won’t destroy her coalition.
 
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

I would think the right political move would be to not be the government when this meteor hits. Can a government vote to collapse, and can the opposition vote to stop them?
 
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

Jimjamesak said:
If there’s no deal in place by the time they leave the EU then the PL has no end around to help. They still have to follow British laws, it’s just the PL has been abusing EU worker rules to their benefit for over a decade.
Click to expand...

While I know almost nothing about the EPL, I have to think they'll be able to get work permits for soccer players fairly easily, wouldn't they? Same with British players playing in other European leagues.
 
MinnesotaNorthStar said:
While I know almost nothing about the EPL, I have to think they'll be able to get work permits for soccer players fairly easily, wouldn't they? Same with British players playing in other European leagues.
Click to expand...
English work permits are notoriously hard to get and have scuttled plenty of international transfers. One of the major components being that a player has to have a percentage of International appearances. It’s why the PL has comparatively fewer South Americans playing than say Spain or Italy. Tim Howard had work permit difficulties on his initial transfer to Man U. Teams can get around this by having players get EU passports from places that allow citizenship on things like your grandparents. With a no deal Brexit, all of those players immediately have to try to qualify for a work permit.

The biggest is going to be youth players. FIFA rules prohibit transferring out of country until you’re 18. EU rules allow EU players to get around this, it’s how Pulisic went to Dortmund. Plenty of PL clubs have their youth system full of EU players.
 
Kepler said:
I would think the right political move would be to not be the government when this meteor hits. Can a government vote to collapse, and can the opposition vote to stop them?
Click to expand...
The biggest reason being that it’s another three years until an election and Labour has only a real finite time to use the momentum they have right now. Also, trying to take over the Government gives Labour an opportunity to stop the whole Brexit mess.
 
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

Jimjamesak said:
Also, trying to take over the Government gives Labour an opportunity to stop the whole Brexit mess.
Click to expand...

How?

Let's say the Tories collapsed tomorrow and Jeremy Coryn leads the new government in a stirring rendition of Internationale. From that instant on they are on the same hot seat Theresa May is now. Brussels already told the UK to sod off so even a snap referendum might not be accepted, and if it was then the UKIPpies will become the same sort of Oy Oy moron brigade that the Freedumb Caucus is here, except Brit rightwingers aren't cowards like ours and actually will start running IRA-style guerrilla operations out of the fish and chips van.
 
Kepler said:
How?

Let's say the Tories collapsed tomorrow and Jeremy Coryn leads the new government in a stirring rendition of Internationale. From that instant on they are on the same hot seat Theresa May is now. Brussels already told the UK to sod off so even a snap referendum might not be accepted, and if it was then the UKIPpies will become the same sort of Oy Oy moron brigade that the Freedumb Caucus is here, except Brit rightwingers aren't cowards like ours and actually will start running IRA-style guerrilla operations out of the fish and chips van.
Click to expand...
According to this BBC article the UK can stop Brexit and remain in the EU at any point as long as the process is democratic.

The Labour goal right now is to force an election, win a majority (or at least a minority with the National parties), force a referendum, stop Brexit, Nationalize it.
 
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

Just watched the Brexit movie on HBO. Pretty well done.
 
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

"No deal" rejected by Parliament.

May now says she believes she has a deal that the majority will support, and once it is approved, she wants to re-open negotiations. Brussels says nee/non, and insists they have made their final offer.
 
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

I was listening to a rundown on the Beeb. The EU has no reason to cut May any slack. The UK cut its own throat with their Trump-like tantrum. F-ck em.

Remember when it was the Anglosphere who were the adults and the Europeans who were irresponsible and volatile?

Too bad we let our chimps have the vote.
 
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

Debate going on now in the Commons on the latest (and final) Brexit "deal" with the EU.

I believe if this one fails, there is a hard exit (don't slam the door on the way out) on March 29.

NOTE: It's live on BBC World. The PM has lost her voice. The opposition benches are not happy.
 
Last edited:
Re: Brexit - Should I stay or should I go??

joecct said:
Debate going on now in the Commons on the latest (and final) Brexit "deal" with the EU.

I believe if this one fails, there is a hard exit (don't slam the door on the way out) on March 29.

NOTE: It's live on BBC World. The PM has lost her voice. The opposition benches are not happy.
Click to expand...

I can't find it anywhere???
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top