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BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, citing

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

What happens to the hockey players who have already committed somewhere else if the funds are raised to save the program? I guess that the transfer won't be approved by the NCAA?
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

What happens to the hockey players who have already committed somewhere else if the funds are raised to save the program? I guess that the transfer won't be approved by the NCAA?

They would allow it. This fund raiser isn't buying any stability beyond a year.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

They’re at $485k with a few hours to go. Looking good but it’ll sure be nice to just finish it up already. I’m quite impressed.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

What happens to the hockey players who have already committed somewhere else if the funds are raised to save the program? I guess that the transfer won't be approved by the NCAA?

Apparently, once they announced the program was being canned, players can transfer without penalty. Even if the school says, "Just kidding..."
 
Apparently, once they announced the program was being canned, players can transfer without penalty. Even if the school says, "Just kidding..."

I presume this would require a waiver to the NCAA which would likely be granted? (Of course the NCAA rarely does things how they’re supposed to be done)
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

I didn't think that they would make it.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Frustration with my alma mater doesn't mean that my BS meter is broken. My BS meter is highly tuned from what I do for work — I was never a marketing major, and my sophomore year is a good 24 years in my rear view (right back there with that last D-II championship).

Do some **** homework on NCAA rules, etc. Knock the attitude off. Show some humility — you're getting your face washed here because you act like a punk. :)

In other news, I feel very good about the program being resurrected at this point. I'm hopeful that this is the last whiplash I get from this for a while.

GFM

As is my BS meter highly tuned. As an engineer I have learned to reply to BS with BS, reply to data with data. And that got me in trouble as many people don't want to discuss points and stances with data but with opinion. As a marketer I have learned not to reply to BS with BS but to point out my position based on qualitative data. I apologize if I mis-communicated my stance, and it was not taken in a constructive manner. However, reality is what it is, there are 2 sides to every story and I will continue to promote college hockey in the best way I see fit which is what I think most people here are trying to do, promote college hockey.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Apparently, once they announced the program was being canned, players can transfer without penalty. Even if the school says, "Just kidding..."

Really? That won't help UAH save the program as it is likely that the some of the more talented found a new home first. What is your source for this? I would hope, for the benefit of UAH on a competitive level for the coming year, that this is not the case. They have enough struggles already with no conference, no rink on campus and an AD that wants to drop them. Holding on to competitive players will help a bit.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

How is this sustainable long-term?
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

WCHA is 2500 seat minimum for new facilities.

Thank you. I looked and looked, could never find any standard publicly issued on the internet.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

I presume this would require a waiver to the NCAA which would likely be granted? (Of course the NCAA rarely does things how they’re supposed to be done)

A waiver is not necessary, because I believe that's the rule. The school announced it was shutting down. At that point, you are free to transfer.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Apparently, once they announced the program was being canned, players can transfer without penalty. Even if the school says, "Just kidding..."

Clarke Saunders (NoDak) and Mac Roy (RMU) both left the first time. It's my understanding that Hak offered to release Clarkie from his NLI so he could stay in Huntsville. I ... I think I'd rather be the starting goalie for a storied program.

GFM
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Really? That won't help UAH save the program as it is likely that the some of the more talented found a new home first. What is your source for this? I would hope, for the benefit of UAH on a competitive level for the coming year, that this is not the case. They have enough struggles already with no conference, no rink on campus and an AD that wants to drop them. Holding on to competitive players will help a bit.

Which is exactly what happened last time UAH announced it was canning the program. A slew of players transferred out. Look at UAH's record the following year. They were hurt by it. Big time.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Better off still folding the program and hope people let you keep the money for the school in general.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Which is exactly what happened last time UAH announced it was canning the program. A slew of players transferred out. Look at UAH's record the following year. They were hurt by it. Big time.


A slew? It was two guys on the active roster under NLIs. Now, were recruits lost over it? Absolutely.

The 2011-12 team (i.e., the team that had already started the season less than two weeks before the program was dropped) had just two seniors and four juniors. Between them, the five skaters scored 11 goals and the goalie played in six contests.

The next year's team fired the 2011-12 head coach less than two weeks before the season started and picked up a pro coach with a college background that was 30 years behind him to play out the last independent season[1]. That 2012-13 team won exactly one Division I game. The four seniors played their asses off, but they weren't enough. Four of the eight freshmen didn't finish four seasons in Huntsville: one left after a year and three were culled after the first WCHA season. The juniors were a bit of a mixed bag (including one who was effectively deported for sexual assault), with only two of them going on to play any sort of major contribution the next year. (They were the kids who stayed through independence, and I respect the hell out of them.)

So yeah: cancelled the program, brought it back to win just two D-I games, fired a coach two weeks before the season started, won just one D-I game, but thank God they got into the WCHA. It took a couple more years and a guy like Max McHugh to prove to recruits that you might actually want to play here, but it happened.

But UAH only lost two guys in 2011.




[1] If UAH hadn't gotten into the WCHA, they were going to fold. The press release was written. I've read it.
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Better off still folding the program and hope people let you keep the money for the school in general.

That would not happen.

GFM
 
Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

No but it would be best for UAH. Unless someone can tell me how this program realistically survives long-term.
 
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