BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, citing

[DavidNardolillo]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Not hockey specific but...

https://www.si.com/.amp/college/2020/05/26/uconn-football-sports-cuts?__twitter_impression=true

Terrible situation and UConn is not the only school with issues. It was discussed a little bit on another thread about whether hockey programs were at risk of being cut. As I said there, chasing big-time football money is a dangerous game, especially in the Northeast.

 

[aparch]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Didn't Penn State and ASU fill out their schedule with non-D1/II hockey schools their first year/two in the NCAA? And isn't Simon Fraser an NCAA school?

 

[DavidNardolillo]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Didn't Penn State and ASU fill out their schedule with non-D1/II hockey schools their first year/two in the NCAA? And isn't Simon Fraser an NCAA school?

Simon Fraser is NCAA generally, but I believe their men's hockey is currently a club team and not NCAA.

 

[beaverhockeyfan]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

You have to play so many games against D-I competition to be tournament eligible (20??). I believe outside of that you can play club, D-III or Canadian teams. I believe the NCAA allows an exhibition game or two that does not count against your 34 game limit. Any games over that and they count.

At least this is how I recall it when UAH went through one of their independent seasons in 2010-2013.

 

[aparch]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

You have to play so many games against D-I competition to be tournament eligible (20??). I believe outside of that you can play club, D-III or Canadian teams. I believe the NCAA allows an exhibition game or two that does not count against your 34 game limit. Any games over that and they count.

At least this is how I recall it when UAH went through one of their independent seasons in 2010-2013.

Thanks!! I couldn't recall the number of games to remain tourney eligible, but I thought there was a LOT of wiggle room. I thought I recalled ASU playing a good number of D-III and ACHA teams their inaugural NCAA season.

 

[Bonin21]

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Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Tournament eligibility wouldn't really matter

 

[JohnsonsJerseys]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Thanks!! I couldn't recall the number of games to remain tourney eligible, but I thought there was a LOT of wiggle room. I thought I recalled ASU playing a good number of D-III and ACHA teams their inaugural NCAA season.

ASU played 17 games against Canadian, DII/III and junior hockey teams their first season and another 25 games against D-I opponents. Yes, 42 games their first season.
https://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/arizona-state/mens-hockey/2015-2016/

 

[sigx15]

Terrible situation and UConn is not the only school with issues. It was discussed a little bit on another thread about whether hockey programs were at risk of being cut. As I said there, chasing big-time football money is a dangerous game, especially in the Northeast.

Ya UConn screwed up from day 1. Between building a stadium in Hartford, suing BC, Miami, VT and the ACC, and then all the hirings/firings, it’s been ineptitude for 20 years in the athletic department. Hopefully hockey isn’t the sport that has to pay the price.

Hopefully, they make the smart choice and cut football or at least drop it down to FCS. If they look at Northeastern as an example, they’ll be able to see how much cutting football saved them in the long run and allowed them to invest in other sports like hockey allowing them to succeed.

 

[J.D.]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Paul Pasqualoni, Bob Diaco, Randy Edsall 2.0...man they drove that thing right into the ****ter. Not to mention how Calhoun's career ended and the Kevin Ollie fiasco.

 

[gfmorris]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

So if they do get the $1 million, what does that buy them? Is it one season then another GoFundMe next summer, or will that keep the program afloat a little longer... or maybe long enough for the University's athletic department to get its finances back on track?

A year.

GFM

 

[gfmorris]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

The previous capital campaign was on the same scale and convinced the school to go on. The campaign failed because people didn't live up to their pledges. (I was one. I was unemployed. I have no issues with failing.). GoFundMe will ensure that the money is in place right away. At the same time, it's painful to watch my alma mater's hockey program (I no longer claim part ownership) reduced to panhandling for operating capital.

That said, getting the $1MM probably gets the team into the CCHA. Why? In uncertain times, eight teams are better than seven, regardless of their viability.

GFM

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

ASU played 17 games against Canadian, DII/III and junior hockey teams their first season and another 25 games against D-I opponents. Yes, 42 games their first season.
https://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/arizona-state/mens-hockey/2015-2016/

IF ASU had played 42 games it would have in all likelihood violated the NCAA limit. However, a look at the USCHO schedule for ASU shows it has several games listed twice. CHN has the correct schedule of 38 games: 25 vs DI teams, 5 vs club teams, 2 vs a D2 team, 2 vs a D3 team, 2 vs a US national team and 2 vs a Canadian team. With exemptions this meets the NCAA limit for games.

Sean

 

[UncleRay]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Sorry about this, Geof. I know the program is near and dear to your heart. This must be terribly difficult for you to have to go through. Again.

I disagree about the $1MM getting them into the nCCHA. Because it brings no true stability to the program. It just buys them another year. Ten or twenty mill might bring some long-term stability, but since that hasn't happened over the past decade, why would it now? Money produced with a gun to one's head is always suspect. Unfortunately, it seems like for years this program has either been on a respirator, or on a bed in a room with a respirator so there is no delay in treatment. No entity can survive longterm under those conditions.

 

[BC/HE]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Players are already moving. Promising freshman forward Liam Izyk going to Boston College. Would assume he is eligible immediately if the program folds.

 

[DavidNardolillo]

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Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Players are already moving. Promising freshman forward Liam Izyk going to Boston College. Would assume he is eligible immediately if the program folds.

As I read the rules, he is free to play for BC this season even if the program is rescued. The public announcement of the discontinuation triggers the free transfer and there is no corresponding provision that the school can claw the player back if the program is reinstated. (See "14.5.5.2.6 Discontinued/Nonsponsored Sport Exception": https://www.ncaapublications.com/pro...0.pdf#page=200).

 

[DavidNardolillo]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

I disagree about the $1MM getting them into the nCCHA.

There had to be a reason why UAH was not part of the initial CCHA group. Hard to see that changing unless big boosters come forward. It really is an unfortunate situation, I think most of us want to see NCAA hockey get a good foothold in the Southeast.

 

[C-H-C]

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Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The University of Alabama-Huntsville hockey program also faced extinction in 2011. Read about the history of <a href="https://twitter.com/uahhockey?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@uahhockey</a> and their last game against <a href="https://twitter.com/UNHMHOCKEY?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UNHMHOCKEY</a> in "Alabama-Huntsville's Farewell Tour Comes to UNH" (Nov 25, 2011) <a href="https://t.co/A27uHGzSGg">https://t.co/A27uHGzSGg</a> <a href="https://t.co/8k6CLVhGA0">https://t.co/8k6CLVhGA0</a></p>— Mike Lowry (@UNHHockeyBlog) <a href="https://twitter.com/UNHHockeyBlog/status/1265778983389585410?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[UVMFAN]

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Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

The program can still be saved please donate. If not, you'll get your money back:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/uah-hockey-keep-the-dream-and-tradition-alive

 

[Alaska Hockey]

Re: BREAKING: Alabama Huntsville dropping men’s ice hockey effective immediately, cit

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There had to be a reason why UAH was not part of the initial CCHA group. Hard to see that changing unless big boosters come forward. It really is an unfortunate situation, I think most of us want to see NCAA hockey get a good foothold in the Southeast.

nccha are uppity hicks who coundn't afford or pass the dress code at the hotel diner.

 

[Sol Diablo]

Nobody owes you anything. And it's ironic to hear you expect travel favors in a thread regarding a team that just folded in part because other teams didn't want to travel there.

And your arena still isn't good enough to meet conference standards. So go build one, join the Nachos, and get the last laugh.

Never asked for favors, just equal treatment, which it appears the Alaska teams & UAH didn't get. So show me the conference standards for arenas. I see NCAA standards which have been met. But I definitely agree the dismal arena needs massive improvement which is underway.