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Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

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East Region schools within 500 miles of Adrian (per NCAA calculator thingy):

Chatham - 275
Fredonia - 303
Buffalo State - 352
Geneseo - 395
Brockport - 404
Nazereth - 416
Hobart - 448
Elmira - 458
Oswego - 486
Leb Valley - 487
King's - 495
Wilkes - 495

Just missing out:
Stevenson - 510
Cortland - 521
Morrisville - 521
Hamilton - 530
Utica - 534
Canton - 550
Neumann - 558
Potsdam - 562

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Re: Bracketology 1.1 - before the conference tournaments. Don't be upset

West Region schools within 500 miles of Adrian (per NCAA doohickey):

Trine - 66
Lake Forest - 260
Aurora - 268
MSOE - 319
Concordia (WI) - 334
Marian - 384
Lawrence - 424
St. Norbert - 435
UWSP - 490


Soooo, despite conference alignment, should Adrian be considered "west" for tournament purposes?

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cetihcra said:
West Region schools within 500 miles of Adrian (per NCAA doohickey):

Trine - 66
Lake Forest - 260
MSOE - 319
Concordia (WI) - 334
Marian - 384
Aurora - 399
Lawrence - 424
St. Norbert - 435
UWSP - 490


Soooo, despite conference alignment, should Adrian be considered "west" for tournament purposes?

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Not sure that Aurora total is right.
 
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Russell Jaslow said:
But that has nothing to do with what I said. Submitting paperwork is one thing (granted, a very important step). Having the criteria to host is completely separate.

Just because you were great at hosting in sport X doesn't mean you meet the criteria for sport Y, nor will it even be considered for sport Y. That is what I am saying.
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And the point sailed over your head that my initial response was to if anyone was asking if anyone knew who submitted bids. My statement was that since Point has for other NCAA things, they probably would for this. Obviously facilities play into it and other rules, but that was not my point and never was (however, the hotel type of requirements are similar so that does apply in one way). I am not stupid enough to ignore that part of it nor did I ever try and state that since they hosted for basketball, they must be able to host for hockey. I am stating prior history states that UWSP bids for these type of things if they are able to. That is it. If they are able to (hint, they are), they will bid.

Guess what else? I was right. UWSP has bid.
 
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BetterInLakePlacid said:
And the point sailed over your head that my initial response was to if anyone was asking if anyone knew who submitted bids. My statement was that since Point has for other NCAA things, they probably would for this. Obviously facilities play into it and other rules, but that was not my point and never was (however, the hotel type of requirements are similar so that does apply in one way). I am not stupid enough to ignore that part of it nor did I ever try and state that since they hosted for basketball, they must be able to host for hockey. I am stating prior history states that UWSP bids for these type of things if they are able to. That is it. If they are able to (hint, they are), they will bid.

Guess what else? I was right. UWSP has bid.
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Good heavens.

You said my original post was wrong in post #48. Where was it wrong? Because I never touched upon what you just wrote above. Talk about something sailing over your head....

P.S. Of course UWSP bid. Why wouldn't they? As I'm sure SNC, Geneseo, Oswego, and all other schools that meet the requirements will bid.
 
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lots of big games this weekend, lets see how that alters the brackets.
 
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sacole13 said:
lots of big games this weekend, lets see how that alters the brackets.
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Of course, the biggest effect on these mock brackets is we are forced to use the league leaders as the AQ representatives because the conference tournaments haven't taken place. And, it's very rare that stays accurate 100% across the board. So, that's where the real altering of the brackets takes place -- after we finally know the AQs. But then, there's no fun anymore at that point. :D
 
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Easiest bracket ever? Gosh the pairwise makes things easier. Two changes this week have a massive change on the bracketing...Hobart moves ahead of Adrian with the solo victory while Adrian split, which takes Adrian out of the projected field and gives a true East/West region split again. Trinity also took over the NESCAC spot after beating Wesleyan twice to earn the NESCAC bid in the projection.

SUNYAC - Geneseo (2)
CCC - Salve Regina (12)
MASCAC - Plymouth State (31)
MIAC - Augsburg (11)
NCHA - St. Norbert (5)
NEHC - UMass Boston (6)
NESCAC - Trinity (9)
UCHC - Utica (14)

Pool C - Stevens Point (1)
Pool C - Norwich (3)
Pool C - Oswego (4)
Pool C - Hobart (7)

As i said above, the bracket is really simple complying within the 500 mile rule without having to worry about Adrian. We get to set up four three-team pods and reward the top four seeds with byes. Literally perfect within the construct of the NCAA travel rules.

First Round:

Augsburg at St. Norbert
Plymouth State at UMass Boston
Utica at Hobart
Salve Regina at Trinity

Quarterfinals:
SNC/Augsburg at Stevens Point
UMass Boston/Plymouth at Oswego
Hobart/Utica at Norwich
Trinity/Salve Regina at Geneseo
 
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PrezdeJohnson09 said:
Easiest bracket ever? Gosh the pairwise makes things easier. Two changes this week have a massive change on the bracketing...Hobart moves ahead of Adrian with the solo victory while Adrian split, which takes Adrian out of the projected field and gives a true East/West region split again. Trinity also took over the NESCAC spot after beating Wesleyan twice to earn the NESCAC bid in the projection.

SUNYAC - Geneseo (2)
CCC - Salve Regina (12)
MASCAC - Plymouth State (31)
MIAC - Augsburg (11)
NCHA - St. Norbert (5)
NEHC - UMass Boston (6)
NESCAC - Trinity (9)
UCHC - Utica (14)

Pool B - Stevens Point (1)
Pool C - Norwich (3)
Pool C - Oswego (4)
Pool C - Hobart (7)

As i said above, the bracket is really simple complying within the 500 mile rule without having to worry about Adrian. We get to set up four three-team pods and reward the top four seeds with byes. Literally perfect within the construct of the NCAA travel rules.

First Round:

Augsburg at St. Norbert
Plymouth State at UMass Boston
Utica at Hobart
Salve Regina at Trinity

Quarterfinals:
SNC/Augsburg at Stevens Point
UMass Boston/Plymouth at Oswego
Hobart/Utica at Norwich
Trinity/Salve Regina at Geneseo
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I thought there was no Pool B this year.
 
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Assuming Stevens Point stays number one, and they make it to the Frozen Four, does it become a safe assumption KB Willett hosts the Frozen Four?
 
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KnightsOfTheRound said:
Assuming Stevens Point stays number one, and they make it to the Frozen Four, does it become a safe assumption KB Willett hosts the Frozen Four?
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Yes...no doubt...tickets will be in HIGH demand...they have been selling out in their recent home games...
 
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pete99race said:
Yes...no doubt...tickets will be in HIGH demand...they have been selling out in their recent home games...
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From skimming the NCAA's championship manual I think each school would get an allocation of 200 tickets which can only be released if they are not sold by the day before. 200 is not many tickets, but if a school travels light it might make it easier for the few people who do want to go.
 
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I wonder if the 2 games + (the dreaded) mini game format will take a hit as a result of the PWR. Then again, Adrian would be dead in the water if the NCHA was a one and done tournament.

Wish we had a PWR predictor like D1. It would be fun to model the PWR with various tournament outcomes.
 
joecct said:
I wonder if the 2 games + (the dreaded) mini game format will take a hit as a result of the PWR. Then again, Adrian would be dead in the water if the NCHA was a one and done tournament.

Wish we had a PWR predictor like D1. It would be fun to model the PWR with various tournament outcomes.
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DMG has no effect on PWR ....not at all considered.
 
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