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Bottom-Feeders Bracket; Road to "FutileFour" team selection process

Re: Bottom-Feeders Bracket; Road to "FutileFour" team selection process

hockeyplayer1015 said:
So, you're saying that the 7-12 AHA teams could beat ECAC's #12 Harvard more than 5 out of 10 times? Even going up to Cornell and Colgate at 10/11? Doubtful.
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No. Not exactly. Unfortunately this didn't post right either. Somehow when this got posted it "self justified" and doesn't show what I meant either. But to try and put it into words, roughly #1 AHA=#4 ECAC. Now it will vary from year to year, or course. AHA bottom feeders will usually be worse than any ECAC team. And it is never going to be a perfect match, i.e. #4 AHA might be better than #8 ECAC some years and worse others, but I think the fundamental point is that the AHA as a whole could compete with the ECAC as a whole. Much like the relationship between HEA and the ECAC. Hockey East is probably over all better, especially at the top most years. But if you take the 3rd place AHA team, the 6th ranked ECAC team and the 7th ranked HEA team, put them out there in unmarked uniforms, I'm not sure you'd know who was who.
 
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Freddie said:
Everything works backwards from that 'other' national tournament so many folks get all worked up about this time of the year. The 16 team field takes the lowest ranked teams (we use KRACH, just to be different), with automatic bids to the last place team in each conference.
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What happened to FARTS? ;)
 
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Jim said:
No. Not exactly. Unfortunately this didn't post right either. Somehow when this got posted it "self justified" and doesn't show what I meant either. But to try and put it into words, roughly #1 AHA=#4 ECAC. Now it will vary from year to year, or course. AHA bottom feeders will usually be worse than any ECAC team. And it is never going to be a perfect match, i.e. #4 AHA might be better than #8 ECAC some years and worse others, but I think the fundamental point is that the AHA as a whole could compete with the ECAC as a whole. Much like the relationship between HEA and the ECAC. Hockey East is probably over all better, especially at the top most years. But if you take the 3rd place AHA team, the 6th ranked ECAC team and the 7th ranked HEA team, put them out there in unmarked uniforms, I'm not sure you'd know who was who.
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This season, ECAC is 18-7-5 vs AHA; take out my crappy Clarkson team from that comparison and it's 18-4-1! While I agree that AHA is better than it has been, I don't think it's as close as you do.

Like most things, it's probably somewhere in between where you think and where I think, and even if you're right I'd still keep the AHA rule for the FF
 
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You migh be right, but you're ignoring the fact that AHA's worst team not named Sacred Heart, AIC whupped up on ECAC Regular Season Champ and top ranked Quinnipiac! :cool:
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
What happened to FARTS? ;)
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Freddie's Arbitrary Ranking of Teams that Suck (FARTS) is currently inoperable. While we are not at liberty to discuss any of the system's proprietary details, we can tell you that one of the criteria involved a spider monkey that was trained to fling his poop at a chalk board listing the 'bubble' teams. Several weeks ago the monkey began eating his poop, rather than flinging it. He developed an intestinal infection similar to e-coli, and had to be euthanized. The selection committee has been working feverishly to find and train a satisfactory replacement, and we hope to have FARTS back on line before time of the final selection.
 
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The Media Relations Sub-Committee is pleased to announce that, for the first time on tournament history the BFB Tournament Selection Show will be broadcast on TV. KSTD of Abderdeen SD will air the program at 5:30am (CDT) on March 25, right between the morning farm report and the local public school menu listing. The show will be live from the world famous "Grab-and-Go" breakfast counter at the Motel Six, featuring a special celebrity guest, TBD.
 
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Freddie said:
The Media Relations Sub-Committee is pleased to announce that, for the first time on tournament history the BFB Tournament Selection Show will be broadcast on TV. KSTD of Abderdeen SD will air the program at 5:30am (CDT) on March 25, right between the morning farm report and the local public school menu listing. The show will be live from the world famous "Grab-and-Go" breakfast counter at the Motel Six, featuring a special celebrity guest, TBD.
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Are you working on getting Eric the Midget from Howard Stern fame to be the special celebrity guest?
 
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Ralph Baer said:
Although I can understand that, it sets a poor precedent because there will be three HEA teams in that category next season.
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UncleRay said:
I believe we join the other Everybody-Gets-A-Participation-Trophy leagues next year. But the nWCHA sees common sense and doesn't take their two least-deserving teams to the league tourney.
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Nope, the nWCHA is taking the banner from completely from HEA next year: post-UND, all 11/12 teams of HEA will make the league playoffs.
 
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Rhett said:
Nope, the nWCHA is taking the banner from completely from HEA next year: post-UND, all 11/12 teams of HEA will make the league playoffs.
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Isn't that what I said? :confused:
 
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fishcore12 said:
Are you working on getting Eric the Midget from Howard Stern fame to be the special celebrity guest?
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Eric was on our 'short' list of potential celebrity guests, but we're afraid he's out of our price range.
 
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Isn't a sock puppet probably out of your price range?
 
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The AHA won 38% of its non-conference games; 33% if you take out Penn State and UAH. That's the best ever, and Niagara is reaping the benefits. If Niagara can stay 10th in the PWR, it will get in on that, opening the door for a second AHA team in the tournament. In the past, the league's RPI was so low that a team with Niagara's record would have been 13th-15th in the PWR.
 
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What venue has lost the bid to host this?
 
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UMass is doing a hell of a job playing their way into this thing. Four straight losses, including two straight to losses at home to pathetically bad teams. Sure, they have a win against BC, but it was only once out of three times, and who doesn't have an embarrassing blemish on their record?

Excuse me while I go get a paper bag to wear for future games.
 
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If you discount the first half of the season, BU can easily win this thing.
 
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^ BU is playing like they want a part of this and at first glance, they do appear to have an admittedly impressive resume. In 2013, they have two losses to Harvard (one of them at home, other neutral site), two losses to Northeastern (again one at home, one neutral site), a loss to UMass. At very pathetic.

However, looking more closely at their results, they went 1-0-1 in Maine. That's what really kills BU in my opinion. They could have used an 0-2-0 showing to get the committee thinking. Adding in a win in Providence in January and a win on the road again #5 North Dakota in November and beating #1 BC at home, I don't see them getting in. A Hockey East team has to be consistently bad from start to finish to get an at large spot. Frankly, I just don't see the required consistent level of suck when I look at BU/
 
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