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Boston University vs Northeastern 3/4 and 5

Re: Boston University vs Northeastern 3/4 and 5

Another ques for BU fans i've been curious about, for a while now..

Matthews, when its packed.. is a loud, intimidating place to play in. The atmosphere/ energy in the barn is just incredible. I'll miss that Friday.. because we won't get that this wknd at least. (BC series got some of that)..

Walter Brown used to be like that.. was a great, loud, intimidating place. Just great atmosphere at both venues really.

Agganis is nice.. its sterile.. same or more fans.. but its not loud, not intimidating.. is it the ceilings.. is it the security.. (Agganistan.. :)).. we have security too.. is it the sectioning of students.. is it... ?

I've been there a few times for different gms now.. just not the same as WBA or Matthews.. what is it?...

(just my opinion) :)

having come to BU in the post-Walter Brown world, i can't really talk specifics about the differences between the two arenas. But simply on the surface, Agganis is much bigger and more open, which is definitely not conducive to producing really loud crowd noise.

and having been to a few games at Matthews now, i have to say in terms of atmosphere it surpasses Agganis in my book. i guess it's the price you pay for upgrading your arena haha
 
Re: Boston University vs Northeastern 3/4 and 5

Pretty excited to see Mike Hewkin get burned on the Matthews ice for the last time on Friday night.

McNeely and Macleod will obviously be missed next year but I think we have some guys with enough skill to play on the 2011 first line. Thoughts on their futures? I would imagine McNeely will be an AHL player who could potentially get a cup of coffee in the big leagues down the road. As for Wade, I see him going to the ECHL and producing there. He could potentially play in the AHL but I don't know if he is a good enough skater to play there consistently.
 
Re: Boston University vs Northeastern 3/4 and 5

having come to BU in the post-Walter Brown world, i can't really talk specifics about the differences between the two arenas. But simply on the surface, Agganis is much bigger and more open, which is definitely not conducive to producing really loud crowd noise.

and having been to a few games at Matthews now, i have to say in terms of atmosphere it surpasses Agganis in my book. i guess it's the price you pay for upgrading your arena haha

Yeah I agree. I love HAA, but Matthews is LOUD!
 
NU fans are just more actively involved in the game. They yell louder, clap harder, etc....like they mean it. Too many BU fans mouth the chants or clap like they are playing patty cake. It's a hockey game, at least look like you are having fun.

As an aside, I have noted the various attempts to mimic the hyperkinetic fan from a couple years ago....Zach Stone, maybe?...during The Final Countdown. Nobody can match his theatrics and many have tried. Kudos for the effort, but I think old Zach may have had a "secret ingredient", so to speak. However, what does look funny as hell is when a whole bunch of you knuckleheads try the dance at the same time. Maybe make it a requirement for entry into 118..."show me the dance".
 
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So you're telling me that you went to NU to become a drug dealer? Who said that you don't learn anything at Northeastern!

I actually did go to NU to be a drug dealer. theyre even gonna give me a doctorate for it
 
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NU fans are just more actively involved in the game. They yell louder, clap harder, etc....like they mean it. Too many BU fans mouth the chants or clap like they are playing patty cake. It's a hockey game, at least look like you are having fun.

while i agree that we certainly have fans who know few of the chants/don't even care about chanting, i think you are probably drastically underestimating the affect a smaller arena has on crowd noise. you get 50 people chanting and clapping in lawler or matthews and it's going to be loud, but if you got 50 people in Agganis you would barely hear them across the arena
 
Re: Boston University vs Northeastern 3/4 and 5

Cro needs to get off the phone.

hopefully we don't have any injuries a la last week, i wouldnt worry about seeing hewkin this weekend, he got nailed @ unh.
 
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while i agree that we certainly have fans who know few of the chants/don't even care about chanting, i think you are probably drastically underestimating the affect a smaller arena has on crowd noise. you get 50 people chanting and clapping in lawler or matthews and it's going to be loud, but if you got 50 people in Agganis you would barely hear them across the arena

Do not compare Matthews to that abomination in Andover...even with the renovations.
 
while i agree that we certainly have fans who know few of the chants/don't even care about chanting, i think you are probably drastically underestimating the affect a smaller arena has on crowd noise. you get 50 people chanting and clapping in lawler or matthews and it's going to be loud, but if you got 50 people in Agganis you would barely hear them across the arena
I don't disagree. But take a look at some individual fans in 118 during a chant....mailing it in. Doesn't matter what size the arena if you are just mouthing the words.
 
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I don't disagree. But take a look at some individual fans in 118 during a chant....mailing it in. Doesn't matter what size the arena if you are just mouthing the words.

It's gone way down hill. Some of it has to do with the over pervasiveness of the security over the past 3 seasons or so, which I think has turned people off to doing anything fun at the games, cheering loud, yelling, any of that, because you're always under the watchful eye of some blue shirt. And no, they don't only look for people who yell f---. That said, hockey games seem to have become more of a social hour since the title, and students seem to be much more cosmopolitan with respect to going to hockey games. It's sad to see, really. Even when HAA first opened, the atmosphere was still very good, not on the level of WBA, but still up there. Apart from some select games, it's been quite subpar.
 
Re: Boston University vs Northeastern 3/4 and 5

I don't disagree. But take a look at some individual fans in 118 during a chant....mailing it in. Doesn't matter what size the arena if you are just mouthing the words.

Last year I felt like that was more of a problem with 118 than 108 but with the exception of the Maine game I think both have been lacking this year, especially lately.
 
Re: Boston University vs Northeastern 3/4 and 5

..more face paint perhaps? :)
(just kidding)

honestly, this kind of thins really is lacking. not necessarily face paint and those kinds of things, but there was an abundance of passion amongst those at the games which is in very short supply these days.
 
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It's gone way down hill. Some of it has to do with the over pervasiveness of the security over the past 3 seasons or so, which I think has turned people off to doing anything fun at the games, cheering loud, yelling, any of that, because you're always under the watchful eye of some blue shirt. And no, they don't only look for people who yell f---. That said, hockey games seem to have become more of a social hour since the title, and students seem to be much more cosmopolitan with respect to going to hockey games.

the security guards at Agganis really do crack down on kids, if you are even suspected of yelling anything inappropriate (swear or not) they give you a stern look or come talk to you. and i couldn't agree more about the role hockey games has taken on at BU, they are much more of a social interaction than a chance to cheer on your team. you get a lot more of the kids who have never been to a hockey game/don't care about hockey/only want to talk to their friends these days. not saying it's a bad thing that hockey is opening up to new crowds of people, but it's certainly not going to be good for crowd noise
 
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the security guards at Agganis really do crack down on kids, if you are even suspected of yelling anything inappropriate (swear or not) they give you a stern look or come talk to you. and i couldn't agree more about the role hockey games has taken on at BU, they are much more of a social interaction than a chance to cheer on your team. you get a lot more of the kids who have never been to a hockey game/don't care about hockey/only want to talk to their friends these days. not saying it's a bad thing that hockey is opening up to new crowds of people, but it's certainly not going to be good for crowd noise

Yeah there were a lot of new kids at the NU vs BC game two weeks ago but the Dog House has leadership. The fans learn the chancts quickly and understand that wn BU or BC especially is in town, Matthews has to be booming. The last minute was great.

Best game I've ever been to at Matthews was against BU last season. NU won 1-0 getting dominated but Rawlings pitched a 43-save shutout. NU ended the game on a 5 minute penalty kill including some 5-on-3. I don't know if I've ever been to a sporting event that racuous and loud, the last five minutes were insane.
 
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Yeah there were a lot of new kids at the NU vs BC game two weeks ago but the Dog House has leadership. The fans learn the chancts quickly and understand that wn BU or BC especially is in town, Matthews has to be booming. The last minute was great.

Best game I've ever been to at Matthews was against BU last season. NU won 1-0 getting dominated but Rawlings pitched a 43-save shutout. NU ended the game on a 5 minute penalty kill including some 5-on-3. I don't know if I've ever been to a sporting event that racuous and loud, the last five minutes were insane.

i was at that game as well, and indeed it was nuts. to add insult to injury, some of NU's finest threw food at a bunch of us BU fans. always the charmers.

and hey, when BC is in town BU is packed and nuts too. it's the rest of the season that the crowd noise is below where we all want it to be. has nothing to do with our student sections not having "leadership" (which they do have)
 
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i was at that game as well, and indeed it was nuts. to add insult to injury, some of NU's finest threw food at a bunch of us BU fans. always the charmers.

and hey, when BC is in town BU is packed and nuts too. it's the rest of the season that the crowd noise is below where we all want it to be. has nothing to do with our student sections not having "leadership" (which they do have)

The problem isn't the leaders in at BU. we have enthusiastic leaders (quite a few who post here), just not students willing to be led as much as would be ideal. Though the mites in 109 last Friday did a darn good job following along haha
 
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The problem isn't the leaders in at BU. we have enthusiastic leaders (quite a few who post here), just not students willing to be led as much as would be ideal. Though the mites in 109 last Friday did a darn good job following along haha

The leaders are in place on both ends of the ice and when the student sections are full 107-109, 117-119 then Agganis can get loud and be a really tough place to play. However I will agree HAA was made to make money and appeal to the season ticket holders more than crowd noise. Matthews is so loud because of how it is built with the students almost on top of the ice. The BU crowd is always there when the team is highly ranked/Beanpot ...etc but many of them are younger students who are uneducated and don't realize that they should go to every game not just the high profile matchups. Kids are still waiting out in the cold for BC tickets and Beanpot tickets. those were both gone the day they went for pick-up...it is just something missing from the freshman and sophomore classes where they dont feel the desire to show up for the games against UVM,PC..etc
 
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Obviously concur with the fact that the student section's hit rock bottom. Agganis is not the whole story, as I think it was rocking in the first few years.

Doesn't seem right to complain about who's filling up the student section when it's not being filled at all. Being there is more important than being loud, and being loud is more important than being witty/clever, something that I think is lost among a lot of people in the Dog Pound nowadays. I shudder to think of what it might turn into if BU had a true stinker of a season.

Between Agganis and overall team complacency, I'm beginning to think the team sold its soul to win in 2009. (I guess not a bad trade for now, we'll see what tune we're singing in 10 years)
 
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