Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

[Friend_of_BU_Hockey]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

That game against BC in Worcester is exactly why Parker has lost it. They owned BC all year, squeeked by in HE final and were NOT ready to play the regional final. Then the goonery started when the game got out of control. Another big game in the NCAA where the team falls apart.

Beating Nebraska-Omaha 9-2 the previous night may have been the 2nd worst thing that happened to the '06 team that weekend. Winning that handily can easily lead to complacency, or the "I hope Miami beats BC so we don't have to face BC again" mentality.

As for the '02 team, they couldn't solve that Maine team. Maine beat them 4x in March alone - the regular-season finale series at WBA (IIRC BU gave up 9 goals the 1st night), HE semis, and NCAAs.

 

[Rover]

Beating Nebraska-Omaha 9-2 the previous night may have been the 2nd worst thing that happened to the '06 team that weekend. Winning that handily can easily lead to complacency, or the "I hope Miami beats BC so we don't have to face BC again" mentality.

As for the '02 team, they couldn't solve that Maine team. Maine beat them 4x in March alone - the regular-season finale series at WBA (IIRC BU gave up 9 goals the 1st night), HE semis, and NCAAs.

Thanks for the reminder. I don't remember the '02 team being anywhere near a title contender but I couldn't remember their ultimate fate.

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

They call it the Young Alum & Family Sections (upper deck corners) but in reality anyone can buy tickets there, it's $10/game. Not the best seat in the house for sure, but I like sitting in the upper deck and the person 4' away from me across the ailse pays double what I do.

I'd actually take BU's YA deal over BC's then, pick whatever seat you want and take $100 off the season ticket price. I'm around the 5th row on the red line for $16 a game. I still think it's beyond stupid that every seat in HAA costs the same exact price.

Here's the thing:

This team was skating and passing and generally "making plays" first semester. i.e., just playing hockey and having fun. Oh, and the goaltending was better/More confident (See OC's game against BC.)

#7 made a HUGE jump and was a slick little playmaker, #5 and #3 were two stud freshmen making crisp passes and lugging the puck with authority, the Captain was crashing the net, #10 was a ROY candidate, and the senior d-man was playing solid defense and cranking up slappers.

Now? All of the above has vanished. No confidence. Playing not to lose. No breakout. No crisp puck movement. Uptight and undisciplined... What happened?

Based on the above observation, lay the blame where you see fit.

BU Hockey: Peaked In December

Agree for the most part, but O'Regan had 11 points in the first 17 games and 15 points in the last 13 and only recently cemented his spot on the all rookie team. Early in the season a lot of his points were of the right place at the right time variety, and while that is certainly not a bad thing I think he has made more plays this semester than the prior. He has probably improved the most of anyone throughout the year.

 

[Tater]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

I still think it's beyond stupid that every seat in HAA costs the same exact price.

Well, except for the Premium Seats.

Just curious, how would you separate pricing on the seating?

 

[claver2010]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

I'd actually take BU's YA deal over BC's then, pick whatever seat you want and take $100 off the season ticket price. I'm around the 5th row on the red line for $16 a game. I still think it's beyond stupid that every seat in HAA costs the same exact price.

I actually really like that.

The problem with that from BC's POV is there is virtually zero movement in the lower bowl year over year.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Well, except for the Premium Seats.

Just curious, how would you separate pricing on the seating?

And really at this point I don't think there is a Premium seat section... any seat can be a premium seat, just that you get access to the club room and elevator etc.

The only real way to sepearte pricing would be behind the nets, but given that those are all student tickets it does not make much sense.

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Well, except for the Premium Seats.

Just curious, how would you separate pricing on the seating?

I never made a specific pricing model in my head, but the fact that the back row in the corner costs the same as the middle of the section on the red line makes no sense to me.

Let's say X for the dead center section, X-2 for the sections on either side of it, and X-5 for the section below the dots and the one in the corner. This wouldn't help me personally but what other "state-of-the-art" stadium in America has a one price fits all seating model?

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Am I the only one who thinks it would be nice if they could tell us the schedule before asking us to renew?

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Am I the only one who thinks it would be nice if they could tell us the schedule before asking us to renew?

Who cares about the schedule, if I renew this month I get a free hat!

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Who cares about the schedule, if I renew this month I get a free hat!

By the way, don't get too excited about the opportunity to win the 8 suite tickets and parking to an event of your choice between now and May, 2013... looks like you can choose from a list of exciting events which include the robotics competition, vampire weekend and Romeo Santos!

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

I never made a specific pricing model in my head, but the fact that the back row in the corner costs the same as the middle of the section on the red line makes no sense to me.

Let's say X for the dead center section, X-2 for the sections on either side of it, and X-5 for the section below the dots and the one in the corner. This wouldn't help me personally but what other "state-of-the-art" stadium in America has a one price fits all seating model?

Was North Dakota a one price fits all model? I know Lowell doesn't change price based on location, but at $14, it's already so low it wouldn't make sense. I know at UConn when my dad had season tickets for basketball the seats in the front row of the XL Center were the same price as the seats in the absolute last row of the upper deck in a 16,000+ arena, which was absurd.

I'd love to see Agganis move to a tiered pricing structure, or at least offer some other kind of pricing model, maybe reduced admission for kids under 12 or something, or a lower third tier price for games against crap teams, because it's ridiculous to make people pay $32 a ticket to see us play Holy Cross and the exhibition games (not commenting on likelihood of a win). I understand Agganis offers a generally better arena product than you can get elsewhere in the league, I'm looking at you Merrimack, but sitting in a corner up at the top to watch BU-Harvard is not worth $32 a ticket, plus parking, plus food, and very few are going to pay it, hence the 1,000+ empty seats every non-BC game. I know they've done a few of those $15 ticket promotions in the past, but the problem was they were late, poorly advertised, and the Ticketmaster fees tacked on another $8-10 per ticket that if I were someone clicking on the promo email I'd feel that it wasn't much of a deal in the end because of that.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Am I the only one who thinks it would be nice if they could tell us the schedule before asking us to renew?

HE hasn't released their schedule so they can't give exact dates, but at least they did list some opponents.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

HE hasn't released their schedule so they can't give exact dates, but at least they did list some opponents.

Still would be nice to know prior to the renewal deadline.... and I don't think we have known in recent years... and I bet we don't this year either.

 

[Tater]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

The problem with that from BC's POV is there is virtually zero movement in the lower bowl year over year.

Is this supposed to be another Kevin Hayes joke??

And really at this point I don't think there is a Premium seat section... any seat can be a premium seat, just that you get access to the club room and elevator etc.

The only real way to sepearte pricing would be behind the nets, but given that those are all student tickets it does not make much sense.

True, you can get a "Premium Seat" anywhere, but there are still Premium Seat sections in the middle sidelines in the upper rows. My understanding is that you would have to pay the higher prices for season tickets in that area whether you want the club room benefits or not.

I never made a specific pricing model in my head, but the fact that the back row in the corner costs the same as the middle of the section on the red line makes no sense to me.

Let's say X for the dead center section, X-2 for the sections on either side of it, and X-5 for the section below the dots and the one in the corner. This wouldn't help me personally but what other "state-of-the-art" stadium in America has a one price fits all seating model?

Most stadiums have multiple levels where Agganis has the single bowl. That is why I was curious as to your opinion. I think (could be wrong) TD Garden has a single price for their lower bowl (loge) for Bruins games.

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Was North Dakota a one price fits all model? I know Lowell doesn't change price based on location, but at $14, it's already so low it wouldn't make sense. I know at UConn when my dad had season tickets for basketball the seats in the front row of the XL Center were the same price as the seats in the absolute last row of the upper deck in a 16,000+ arena, which was absurd.

Technically all ND season tickets cost the same ($390), but there are 5 donation levels at which different seats are available for you to buy. Minimum level is $120 for upper deck corners, up to $3K to have a lower bowl seat between the blue lines.

Does UConn still do that?

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Most stadiums have multiple levels where Agganis has the single bowl. That is why I was curious as to your opinion. I think (could be wrong) TD Garden has a single price for their lower bowl (loge) for Bruins games.

Bruins season tickets appear to have 8 price points for the lower bowl, not 100% sure on that as they don't actually list prices here, but why else would they differentiate?

 

[joen05]

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I was looking at an old seating chart. I don't disagree with Agganis' pricing model though, I think the sight lines are very good all the way around.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Most stadiums have multiple levels where Agganis has the single bowl. That is why I was curious as to your opinion. I think (could be wrong) TD Garden has a single price for their lower bowl (loge) for Bruins games.

From what I can see, they do have different prices in the lower bowl. I believe they, like many others, also price the end the home team shoots at twice higher than the other end, could be something for Agganis to consider.

Still would be nice to know prior to the renewal deadline.... and I don't think we have known in recent years... and I bet we don't this year either.

True, it would be nice for them to release what they have some time in July before the deadline. Wouldn't be realistic now, but certainly then, even if there were no definitive dates, but just a list of who we're playing and what conference games will be at home.

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

True, it would be nice for them to release what they have some time in July before the deadline. Wouldn't be realistic now, but certainly then, even if there were no definitive dates, but just a list of who we're playing and what conference games will be at home.

Really, for me at least, I think the Dates are equally important.... or at least to know that the games will be primarially on Friday and Saturday evenings as per usual.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

Technically all ND season tickets cost the same ($390), but there are 5 donation levels at which different seats are available for you to buy. Minimum level is $120 for upper deck corners, up to $3K to have a lower bowl seat between the blue lines.

Does UConn still do that?

There's a point system there where you get points for donations that accrue over time, and your point level determines your seat location, but season tickets didn't, and even less so now, take up the entire arena, or even the lower bowl, so there were multiple thousands of single game tickets available to the public for each game that had this ridiculous one price fits all price structure. It worked for a while in the '90s and early 2000s, but people started wising up that it was stupid and attendance started to drop off even though the team was winning championships and consistently being in the top 10.