Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

[chickod]

Re: Boston University season thread - strike 3! last man there turn out the lights.

bu was 4-1-0 vs bc before the worcester game. there was no way you can say that bu and everyone there thought bc would win going away and get to milwaukee.

No....maybe not before the game...BUT - the game was over after that first giveaway goal that Boyle got. You could just feel the air go out of the BU sections and BC had so much confidence, I understand what he was saying. And that was his point...we were not only 4-1 vs them - I believe we had won the last four straight. Everyone had an uneasy feeling going into that game (it's like - how many times do we have to beat THEM) and all it would take was one thing to go wrong and that would be it. And it was...almost impossible to beat a team of that caliber five times in a row...unfortunate that we drew them.

 

[Rover]

bu was 4-1-0 vs bc before the worcester game. there was no way you can say that bu and everyone there thought bc would win going away and get to milwaukee.

I could. BU has a well documented history of choking away games. There was zero expectation that Parker would outcoach or outmotivate York. Only hope was a repeat of HE championship where Curry stood on his head but even he couldn't save them.

 

[mookie1995]

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I could. BU has a well documented history of choking away games. There was zero expectation that Parker would outcoach or outmotivate York. Only hope was a repeat of HE championship where Curry stood on his head but even he couldn't save them.

wait! i just read that bu didn't choke away this game. everyone just knew and accepted that bc was the best team ever and would have no issues whatsoever to dispatch bu that night.

i'm really confused now.... poor, poor mookie

 

[chickod]

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wait! i just read that bu didn't choke away this game. everyone just knew and accepted that bc was the best team ever and would have no issues whatsoever to dispatch bu that night.

i'm really confused now.... poor, poor mookie

In any event...so much for <b><i>"We shouldn't have to beat BC for the Nationals...we can do that anytime!"</i> - OC</b>

 

[mookie1995]

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In any event...so much for <b><i>"We shouldn't have to beat BC for the Nationals...we can do that anytime!"</i> - OC</b>

exactly!!!! poor oc would be spinning in his grave... but luckily he is alive

 

[Terrierbyassociation]

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Quinn came back to BU, the recruits came to BU and were actually as good as advertised. He left and the team went south, slowly as the last of the kids graduated which was what, last season? Now with 0 Quinn recruits on this team, with 0 Quinn-coached players on this team, they play undisciplined, lethargic, incompetent, selfish, thuggish, pathetic hockey! I can't even see most of the games, but through the radio I can hear how horrible the team is playing. Even Bernie and Tom can't manage to pretend that this isn't a nightmare, and those guys are the ultimate homers.

BU Hockey: Is it over yet?

 

[Greg Ambrose]

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No the problem is the coaching staff. Also, they had championship caliper teams in 1998, 2000, 2002 and 2006. I contend the 98,02 and 06 team each showed signs of choking and falling apart at the most critical times. Except for 2000, those teams underachieved and lost badly to UNH, Maine and BC in the worst way in regional finals. You could even make a case that the team collapsed in the 97 championship games vs NoDak.

The '97 reference is unfair to Jack. If you remember, BU beat Michigan in the semis, a great upset. Michigan was the odds on favorite to win that year (as Brendan Morrison famously said at the Hobey ceremony that "the best team doesn't always win"). Jack had a great game plan in that game. I had seats down on the ice adjacent to where BU skated off. I'll always remember after the handshakes and hugs, Jack walking off by himself, giving a fist pump because he knew that he had the right game plan for that game. Jack was in his early 50's then, not the shadow of his former great self that he is today. It's hard to believe he is the same man that used to stand on the dasher, throw sticks on the ice, and constantly berate the refs as he did back in the '70's.

BTW, as a UNH fan I always relish the fact that Drury's last college game was an OT loss to UNH in Albany. Mark Mowers, thank you again!

 

[J.D.]

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If und wasn't as good as um that year, you'd think he'd be able to come up with something for the sioux as well. I vaguely remember that game though, I'm assuming bu lost a late lead? Don't kid yourself, he still loves to berate officials

 

[mookie1995]

If und wasn't as good as um that year, you'd think he'd be able to come up with something for the sioux as well. I vaguely remember that game though, I'm assuming bu lost a late lead? Don't kid yourself, he still loves to berate officials

When you assume, you make an *** out of you

 

[ericredaxe]

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There was zero expectation that Parker would outcoach or outmotivate York.

Umm... Jerry said he did nothing to motivate them that game (or something to that effect... I believe it was in an interview in the BU/BC show that NESN sometimes shows).

Lets be fair here... there are certainly reasons to be looking at the program with raised eyebrows right now, but 2006 is not one of them.

No the problem is the coaching staff. Also, they had championship caliper teams in 1998, 2000, 2002 and 2006. I contend the 98,02 and 06 team each showed signs of choking and falling apart at the most critical times. Except for 2000, those teams underachieved and lost badly to UNH, Maine and BC in the worst way in regional finals. You could even make a case that the team collapsed in the 97 championship games vs NoDak.

In '02 they lost by one goal, in a game that IIRC correctly was pretty much back and forth.

Disappointing to lose, but I don't think it is fair to say they choked and fell apart.

 

[ericredaxe]

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PLAYoffs???? (Jim Mora)

This post made me laugh....

After the Beanpot loss the first night one of the guys I was with made a comment about how we needed next week for the Pairwise... the other guy responded in his best Jim Mora impression "Pairwise?!?!? You want to talk about Pairwise?!?!"

 

[bantam75]

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Umm... Jerry said he did nothing to motivate them that game (or something to that effect... I believe it was in an interview in the BU/BC show that NESN sometimes shows).

Lets be fair here... there are certainly reasons to be looking at the program with raised eyebrows right now, but 2006 is not one of them.



In '02 they lost by one goal, in a game that IIRC correctly was pretty much back and forth.

Disappointing to lose, but I don't think it is fair to say they choked and fell apart.

That game against BC in Worcester is exactly why Parker has lost it. They owned BC all year, squeeked by in HE final and were NOT ready to play the regional final. Then the goonery started when the game got out of control. Another big game in the NCAA where the team falls apart.

I was at the 2002 vs Maine, and Whitehead out coaches Jack. 2 really bad goals in 2nd and 3rd periods, one after a stupid penalty.

MO of this team over last 10-12 team is way too many penalties and inability to play complete game in the big games.

 

[bantam75]

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The '97 reference is unfair to Jack. If you remember, BU beat Michigan in the semis, a great upset. Michigan was the odds on favorite to win that year (as Brendan Morrison famously said at the Hobey ceremony that "the best team doesn't always win"). Jack had a great game plan in that game. I had seats down on the ice adjacent to where BU skated off. I'll always remember after the handshakes and hugs, Jack walking off by himself, giving a fist pump because he knew that he had the right game plan for that game. Jack was in his early 50's then, not the shadow of his former great self that he is today. It's hard to believe he is the same man that used to stand on the dasher, throw sticks on the ice, and constantly berate the refs as he did back in the '70's.

Yes that game vs Michigan was probably his last great win (most one sided 3-2 game ever) where he out-coached someone in a big game, but the final was a collapse after the 1st period. Its totally fair to point out both sides of the same coin. The 1st 25 years of his career was great, but the last 15 show a program in decline. PLease do not bring 2009 up again. That team was loaded and were outplayed and outcoached in the regionla final to UNH and fional vs Miami. They pulled both out in desparation. I will give JackPa credit for that timeout vs Miami with 3:30 left and then pulling the goalie.

 

[Agganis]

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I by no means have great seats (upper deck young alum) but $320 for the pair + $250 friends of hockey equivalent + $0 for parking = $570

Just curious, how long does the YA discount last at BC? And is it limited to certain sections/areas or can you get tickets wherever you please and get a certain amount or percentage off?

 

[Rover]

Umm... Jerry said he did nothing to motivate them that game (or something to that effect... I believe it was in an interview in the BU/BC show that NESN sometimes shows).

Lets be fair here... there are certainly reasons to be looking at the program with raised eyebrows right now, but 2006 is not one of them.

IIRC Jerry said he didn't need to review film with the team before the game. They knew what they had to do. In the meantime once again a BU team came out with little energy and fell apart. As I say, anybody who didn't see that outcome coming a mile away hasn't been watching Parker for the last 15 years.

1997 was a disgrace. Sloppy play and the sense they had already won the title by beating Michigan. They don't give out titles for second place, which is what we got facing a determined North Dakota team. Much like 1991 it was a more talented team choking away a championship when faced with a tough opponent.

 

[ericredaxe]

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That game against BC in Worcester is exactly why Parker has lost it. They owned BC all year, squeeked by in HE final and were NOT ready to play the regional final. Then the goonery started when the game got out of control. Another big game in the NCAA where the team falls apart.

I was at the 2002 vs Maine, and Whitehead out coaches Jack. 2 really bad goals in 2nd and 3rd periods, one after a stupid penalty.

MO of this team over last 10-12 team is way too many penalties and inability to play complete game in the big games.

We were 4-1 against them leading up to that game, but I dont think we owned them. 4 of those games were 1 goal games and the other game while the score was lopsided, I dont remember the play itself being that lopsided until a wheel came off in the 3rd period. (And actually just looked it up, BC outshot us in that game).

Again, I think there are plenty of reasons to be skeptical of what is going on at Agganis. I just don't think that 2006 or 2009 (as you referenced) are included in those reasons.

 

[SPIN CONTROL]

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Has Jack retired yet?

 

[goblue]

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Jack was in his early 50's then, not the shadow of his former great self that he is today. It's hard to believe he is the same man that used to stand on the dasher, throw sticks on the ice, and constantly berate the refs as he did back in the '70's.

BTW, as a UNH fan I always relish the fact that Drury's last college game was an OT loss to UNH in Albany. Mark Mowers, thank you again!

How about in the '90's (I could be wrong as to the decade, but I don't believe it was earlier or later) at UNH, when an incensed JP gave an earful to the ref? Having heard enough, the ref started to skate away, but Jack wasn't finished, grabbed his zebra shirtsleeve to detain him a bit longer, and was promptly tossed out? Fun times. (I also recall a "protocol" penalty called against BU at UNH -- I had never heard of it -- when BU preceded UNH onto the ice at the start of a period, getting a 2 minute bench minor. Haven't seen one since.)

(And wasn't it Mowers who scored the game-winning goal in OT against BU in the first HE game at the Whitt? Sorry, BU fans -- I know this is your thread.)

 

[claver2010]

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Just curious, how long does the YA discount last at BC? And is it limited to certain sections/areas or can you get tickets wherever you please and get a certain amount or percentage off?

They call it the Young Alum & Family Sections (upper deck corners) but in reality anyone can buy tickets there, it's $10/game. Not the best seat in the house for sure, but I like sitting in the upper deck and the person 4' away from me across the ailse pays double what I do.

For football they have the young alum discount for 10 years, which takes off half of the price for a tailgate spot.

 

[Bomber]

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Here's the thing:

This team was skating and passing and generally "making plays" first semester. i.e., just playing hockey and having fun. Oh, and the goaltending was better/More confident (See OC's game against BC.)

#7 made a HUGE jump and was a slick little playmaker, #5 and #3 were two stud freshmen making crisp passes and lugging the puck with authority, the Captain was crashing the net, #10 was a ROY candidate, and the senior d-man was playing solid defense and cranking up slappers.

Now? All of the above has vanished. No confidence. Playing not to lose. No breakout. No crisp puck movement. Uptight and undisciplined... What happened?

Based on the above observation, lay the blame where you see fit.

BU Hockey: Peaked In December