Boston University 2019-2020

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

For those who didn't see it, here's video of the penalty during warmups. https://twitter.com/twolinepass/status/1236415410901340161 The backup goalie clearly shoots the puck towards the BU end of the ice and hits Curry (kneeling by blue line) in the head.

WOW. What a dick.

 

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

Another *** moment from this - to start the game, Albie didn't put the first PP unit on the ice, instead 11/17/9 with 4/5. The 1st PP unit is 9/11/13/21 and 4. At no point during that opening PP was the first unit on the ice in full.

Does starting lineup protocol have something to do with this? Was Albie's lineup submitted prior to knowing of this PP coming?

Rule 7 - Starting Lineup 7.1 Eligible Players/Player List - Fifteen minutes before the start of the game, a list of names and numbers of all eligible players and goalkeepers, including starting lineups, shall be submitted to the official scorer or referee. The coach of the home team, having been advised by the official scorer or referee of the names of eligible players and starting lineup of the visiting team, shall name the eligible players and starting lineup of the home team; this information shall be conveyed by the official scorer or the referee to the coach of the visiting team. Changes or additions may not be made to the submitted player eligibility lists (82.2). PENALTY—Bench minor whether deliberate or unintentional. Forfeiture if, after the completion of the game, it is determined by the proper administrative authorities that the violation was deliberate. Changes in the starting lineup of either team, as given to the referee or official scorer, or in the playing lineup on the ice, shall not be made until the game is actually in progress unless a penalty changes the on-ice strength or an injury occurs before the first faceoff. PENALTY—Bench minor if brought to the attention of the referee before the second faceoff in the first period.

EDIT whoops forget it, the 2nd to last sentence seems to allow a change for Albie if there is a pregame penalty.

WILD.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

Does starting lineup protocol have something to do with this? Was Albie's lineup submitted prior to knowing of this PP coming?



EDIT whoops forget it, the 2nd to last sentence seems to allow a change for Albie if there is a pregame penalty.

WILD.

Even if that rule did apply, all he had to do was skate everyone out and immediately change on the first opportunity. Win the faceoff, skate back into your own zone and the 2-3 guys quickly switch.

 

[northeastern]

For those who didn't see it, here's video of the penalty during warmups. https://twitter.com/twolinepass/status/1236415410901340161 The backup goalie clearly shoots the puck towards the BU end of the ice and hits Curry (kneeling by blue line) in the head.

Another *** moment from this - to start the game, Albie didn't put the first PP unit on the ice, instead 11/17/9 with 4/5. The 1st PP unit is 9/11/13/21 and 4. At no point during that opening PP was the first unit on the ice in full.

I don’t t think he (Frye) meant to hit anybody with the clear (he just isn’t that good ); just clearing the puck while skating like they do a thousand times.

Having said that; glad he did serve the penalty as he could have done it another way, seeing there was traffic in the neutral zone.

 

[Scarlet]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

Even if that rule did apply, all he had to do was skate everyone out and immediately change on the first opportunity. Win the faceoff, skate back into your own zone and the 2-3 guys quickly switch.

Well, that never happens starting off a power play.

 

[Ryecheers]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

I don’t t think he (Frye) meant to hit anybody with the clear (he just isn’t that good ); just clearing the puck while skating like they do a thousand times.

Having said that; glad he did serve the penalty as he could have done it another way, seeing there was traffic in the neutral zone.

Of course he didn’t hit him on purpose. If he did, he’s been trying to play out of position for the past four years. He could be our 12th forward. We could actually skate four lines again!

I understand the sharpshooting young gentleman has slipped in school. He got a B+ last semester.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

The coaches aren't even out there for those warmups, right? Would have loved to see Madigan when someone broke the news to him.

 

[DLG]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

I remember team starting out with a power play when a team did not report to the ice at the proper time- think I saw it once
O'Connell's post game remarks said proud of the way BU played both nights
At the 13 minute mark of 2nd period BU had only taken 6 shots-Lethargic at best
Alex Brink played in 34 games and had no goals
Has that ever happened before to a forward. Sean??

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

I feel like that penalty happened a few times back in the day, I know exactly what you're talking about. Definitely remember one from a BC game.

 

[buoldtimer]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

I remember team starting out with a power play when a team did not report to the ice at the proper time- think I saw it once
O'Connell's post game remarks said proud of the way BU played both nights
At the 13 minute mark of 2nd period BU had only taken 6 shots-Lethargic at best
Alex Brink played in 34 games and had no goals
Has that ever happened before to a forward. Sean??

Scott Perry of BU 2000-01?

Maybe Scott Perry 1999-2000, too!

 

[buoldtimer]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

I feel like that penalty happened a few times back in the day, I know exactly what you're talking about. Definitely remember one from a BC game.

Not the same situation, but BU and North Dakota played in the 1990 NCAA Quarterfinals, a best of 3 series. As the teams were skating in their own ends of the ice prior to the game, the boys played a game of chicken as they passed each other at the red line. Predictably, there was contact which led to a dustup which led to full penalty boxes as the game started. Sean????

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

VERY easily explainable. He wanted a big body in front of the net. You don't need a skilled player to that, just a big, strong body.

who was it? duane? big tall tripod. scored a goal or two on that gawd awful team before Eichel showed up where he would lean on his stick and push to get in front of the net. then whack two handed at the puck and hope to sweep it in before falling over.

hahaha, yah. when that is your offensive 'go to' you don't even get to finish a game under .500 for your final record

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

Scott Perry of BU 2000-01

23gm 0 goals
also priem of the same squad: 22gm 0goals

2009-10
ryan santana 30gm 0 goals

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

Alex Brink played in 34 games and had no goals
Has that ever happened before to a forward. Sean??

Scott Perry of BU 2000-01?

Maybe Scott Perry 1999-2000, too!

23gm 0 goals
also priem of the same squad: 22gm 0goals

2009-10
ryan santana 30gm 0 goals

How soon we forget. Forwards who played 30+ games without scoring a goal in the Hockey East era:
Nikolas Olsson, 2017-18, 30 GP, 0-3-3
Ryan Cloonan, 2016-17, 34 GP, 0-6-6
Ryan Santana, 2009-10, 30 GP, 0-1-1
Brian McGuirk, 2004-05, 33 GP, 0-1-1
Scott Perry, 1999-00, 41 GP, 0-3-3

There was also Mark Cheremeta, who played 29 games last season without a goal, and Mike DiMella, who played 27 games without a goal in 1998-99.

The number of skaters each season who played 30+ games without a goal in the Hockey East era:
1987-88 - 3
1988-89 - 2
1989-90 - 1
-
1994-95 - 1
-
1996-97 - 1
1997-98 - 1
1998-99 - 1
1999-00 - 1
-
2003-04 - 1
-
2004-05 - 1
2005-06 - 1
-
2007-08 - 1
2008-09 - 1
2009-10 - 2
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2011-12 - 1
2012-13 - 1
2013-14 - 2
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2016-17 - 1
2017-18 - 1
2018-19 - 2
2019-20 - 3

Sean

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

Not the same situation, but BU and North Dakota played in the 1990 NCAA Quarterfinals, a best of 3 series. As the teams were skating in their own ends of the ice prior to the game, the boys played a game of chicken as they passed each other at the red line. Predictably, there was contact which led to a dustup which led to full penalty boxes as the game started. Sean????

It was before game 1 and four players (Mark Krys, Mike Bavis, Neil Eisenhut and Justin Duberman) received 10-minute misconducts.

Sean

 

[Rover]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

So..... is the consensus now that Albie's got one more year to right the ship or he's out of a job?

 

[Lemonade]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

So..... is the consensus now that Albie's got one more year to right the ship or he's out of a job?

I think so. Has it been an incredible season - no. But they did finish 6th in Hockey East and are in the playoffs and made the beanpot final. Not sure there is enough there to say Albie didnt do a good enough job this season. The team had holes and finished about where most thought they would.

 

[J.D.]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

So..... is the consensus now that Albie's got one more year to right the ship or he's out of a job?

College hockey hasn't fully morphed into hoops/football in that regard so who knows. I suppose every situation is different. Depends on what kind of AD you have and if it's impacting donations to the program. I will go back to the fact you could lose Harper, Curry, Farrance and Zegras. I'm all for optimism but do all of you think the team will be better next year? Truly curious about that.

 

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

College hockey hasn't fully morphed into hoops/football in that regard so who knows. I suppose every situation is different. Depends on what kind of AD you have and if it's impacting donations to the program. I will go back to the fact you could lose Harper, Curry, Farrance and Zegras. I'm all for optimism but do all of you think the team will be better next year? Truly curious about that.

Two things here:

1. As I understand it, final say on the hiring and firing of the hockey coach goes to President Brown, not the AD. (This isn't a good thing.)
2. The next year optimism comes down to how many of Farrance, Zegras, and Crotty go pro, and whether there are any other unexpected roster moves. If you forced me to answer, our best case scenario is only Crotty returns. That plus a solid goalie maens marginal improvement over this year is realistic. Not exactly reason for optimism.

 

[Rover]

Re: Boston University 2019-2020

College hockey hasn't fully morphed into hoops/football in that regard so who knows. I suppose every situation is different. Depends on what kind of AD you have and if it's impacting donations to the program. I will go back to the fact you could lose Harper, Curry, Farrance and Zegras. I'm all for optimism but do all of you think the team will be better next year? Truly curious about that.

No, I think they will be worse. They're losing all the scorers, the D sucks azz, and I don't see Albie having the ability to inspire the team to play above their talent level. He'd better have some impact freshman coming in to give the program some hope or else he's screwed.