These are not positives. What that should say is that a second class has now graduated without a beanpot title and they are again on the road in the first round.
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Boston University 2019-2020
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These are not positives. What that should say is that a second class has now graduated without a beanpot title and they are again on the road in the first round.
Friend_of_BU_Hockey
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Re: Boston University 2019-2020
The optimist in me thinks they could finish in top-4 in HE if... (in priority order IMO)
+ Commesso is as good as advertised
+ Improvement from returning players, esp. Cockerill, Wise, and the "core" of the current Freshmen class (minus Zegras)
+ Zero unexpected offseason departures
+ Amonte returns to / O'Brien enters the lineup as impact players
I think this is a legit concern. Haven't seen enough of this the past 2 seasons. Developing/motivating players to consistently play at or above their talent level has been an outlier.
Albie is 29-30-13 going into this year's HE tourney. Sometimes being medicore can be more frustrating than being downright bad.
The optimist in me thinks they could finish in top-4 in HE if... (in priority order IMO)
+ Commesso is as good as advertised
+ Improvement from returning players, esp. Cockerill, Wise, and the "core" of the current Freshmen class (minus Zegras)
+ Zero unexpected offseason departures
+ Amonte returns to / O'Brien enters the lineup as impact players
I think this is a legit concern. Haven't seen enough of this the past 2 seasons. Developing/motivating players to consistently play at or above their talent level has been an outlier.
Albie is 29-30-13 going into this year's HE tourney. Sometimes being medicore can be more frustrating than being downright bad.
buoldtimer
The social ramble ain't restful
Re: Boston University 2019-2020
Farrance - I can see him leaving; probably, he's reached the point at which he at which he'd benefit from playing at a higher level
Zegras - I think he needs another year of college hockey, but who knows what he/Anaheim feel
Crotty - I've been disappointed in his play this season. My observation is that he's been on the ice in many situations in which BU has been hemmed into its D-zone. Maybe that's due to his role as the lead d-man, so he's plays against the opponent's top line? Still seems like he should be a 4 year guy.
Farrance - I can see him leaving; probably, he's reached the point at which he at which he'd benefit from playing at a higher level
Zegras - I think he needs another year of college hockey, but who knows what he/Anaheim feel
Crotty - I've been disappointed in his play this season. My observation is that he's been on the ice in many situations in which BU has been hemmed into its D-zone. Maybe that's due to his role as the lead d-man, so he's plays against the opponent's top line? Still seems like he should be a 4 year guy.
brassbonanza
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Re: Boston University 2019-2020
Farrance - I can see him leaving; probably, he's reached the point at which he at which he'd benefit from playing at a higher level. The only reason he'd stay I can see is if he really wants to be the captain and is interested in becoming a free agent.
Zegras - I think he needs another year of college hockey, but who knows what he/Anaheim feel. Based on recent comments by the Anaheim GM, Trevor wants to go pro. Seems Anaheim isn't 100% bought in on doing that right away, but it still remains the most likely path.
Crotty - I've been disappointed in his play this season. My observation is that he's been on the ice in many situations in which BU has been hemmed into its D-zone. Maybe that's due to his role as the lead d-man, so he's plays against the opponent's top line? Still seems like he should be a 4 year guy. Agreed. I also wonder whether the coaching staff will make changes literally or strategically on the defensive side given how poor we've been there. I think Crotty's best path to success is staying. This hasn't been a banner year for him to translate to a pro career.
Farrance - I can see him leaving; probably, he's reached the point at which he at which he'd benefit from playing at a higher level. The only reason he'd stay I can see is if he really wants to be the captain and is interested in becoming a free agent.
Zegras - I think he needs another year of college hockey, but who knows what he/Anaheim feel. Based on recent comments by the Anaheim GM, Trevor wants to go pro. Seems Anaheim isn't 100% bought in on doing that right away, but it still remains the most likely path.
Crotty - I've been disappointed in his play this season. My observation is that he's been on the ice in many situations in which BU has been hemmed into its D-zone. Maybe that's due to his role as the lead d-man, so he's plays against the opponent's top line? Still seems like he should be a 4 year guy. Agreed. I also wonder whether the coaching staff will make changes literally or strategically on the defensive side given how poor we've been there. I think Crotty's best path to success is staying. This hasn't been a banner year for him to translate to a pro career.
It’s a race to the bottom! Frankly, I don’t think you guys are up to it, but my Cats might just give Vermont a run.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Boston University 2019-2020
LOL..Hey I know its reaching but that stuff matters to the higher ups. They love smoozing at the Beanpot and making the Championship game does help.
C’mon man
LOL..Hey I know its reaching but that stuff matters to the higher ups. They love smoozing at the Beanpot and making the Championship game does help.
Re: Boston University 2019-2020
Pretty much. I'll qualify that slightly. They play better when the lights are on the brightest. I am willing to be (almost) that they will beat Lowell again and get to the Garden. After all, these high-end players will then get what they want the most. Attention from the scouts. That's the game. They're playing for themselves more than they are the team. All of these games will essentially be televised nationally (at least to people who pay for the specific packages). To me, this explains their "elevated" level of play in two specific situations...the Beanpot, and the FIRST Northeastern game, which clinched the post-season.
Pretty much. I'll qualify that slightly. They play better when the lights are on the brightest. I am willing to be (almost) that they will beat Lowell again and get to the Garden. After all, these high-end players will then get what they want the most. Attention from the scouts. That's the game. They're playing for themselves more than they are the team. All of these games will essentially be televised nationally (at least to people who pay for the specific packages). To me, this explains their "elevated" level of play in two specific situations...the Beanpot, and the FIRST Northeastern game, which clinched the post-season.
Scott Perry is the player I always think about the worst player to play at BU. I am sure there are others
Re: Boston University 2019-2020
They're not always focused. Seems as simple as that. Which, of course, brings up the entire coach thing again. On the other hand, don't players have some responsibility for motivating themselves as well?
They're not always focused. Seems as simple as that. Which, of course, brings up the entire coach thing again. On the other hand, don't players have some responsibility for motivating themselves as well?
If you are playing d1 college hockey and you need a coach to motivate you then leave your bag at the door and hit the road.
Re: Boston University 2019-2020
Strongly disagree. An 18 year old isn't going to have the maturity to figure all that out. They need some rules and guidance set down by the coach. There's a reason some teams are good every year despite constant turnover. The kids are buying into the coach and the program. What is the school paying Albie all that money for if part of the job isn't to get the team to play at the best of their abilities? I'll never understand the mindset behind your statement but we used to hear it when Parker was coaching too. YES, it is the coaches job to motivate and inspire as well as recruit and game plan.
Strongly disagree. An 18 year old isn't going to have the maturity to figure all that out. They need some rules and guidance set down by the coach. There's a reason some teams are good every year despite constant turnover. The kids are buying into the coach and the program. What is the school paying Albie all that money for if part of the job isn't to get the team to play at the best of their abilities? I'll never understand the mindset behind your statement but we used to hear it when Parker was coaching too. YES, it is the coaches job to motivate and inspire as well as recruit and game plan.
Re: Boston University 2019-2020
Yes. I think those players would skate through a brick wall for Jerry York.
Yes. I think those players would skate through a brick wall for Jerry York.
srsterrier
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It’s not just motivating, it’s getting them to “buy in” as Rover put it. Sandelin seems to have that just about every year at UMD. Guys come in knowing what’s expected of them in their system and they play like it.
Re: Boston University 2019-2020
Very fair point. Thats more of a culture thing than coaching motivation thing to me. Motivating to me is the pregame speech to get fired up. The culture aspect is absolutely a discussion point. UMD and Minnesota State recruits a lot of Minnesota players and that pride to play for their state school is a huge motivational factor. I believe 15/24 players on UMD are from Minnesota....Minnesota State has 13/24 from Minnesota. North Dakota recruits a certain type of player - big tough defenseman, gritty, etc. Providence recruits a certain type of player - scrappy, physical......does BU have an identity? To me BU players are high skill and flashy and I am not sure that is ideal type for long term success nowadays.
Very fair point. Thats more of a culture thing than coaching motivation thing to me. Motivating to me is the pregame speech to get fired up. The culture aspect is absolutely a discussion point. UMD and Minnesota State recruits a lot of Minnesota players and that pride to play for their state school is a huge motivational factor. I believe 15/24 players on UMD are from Minnesota....Minnesota State has 13/24 from Minnesota. North Dakota recruits a certain type of player - big tough defenseman, gritty, etc. Providence recruits a certain type of player - scrappy, physical......does BU have an identity? To me BU players are high skill and flashy and I am not sure that is ideal type for long term success nowadays.
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