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Boston University 2015-16 thread part 3 - The Postseason

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brassbonanza said:
Nope, QU win also greatly bolsters our RPI overall as well as giving us a quality win bonus, therefore helping us in every pair. In fact, our quality win bonus is the highest in the country at .0090. The next closest total is BC at .0071. But half the people complaining about our inability to win big games this year shouldn't let that stand in the way of their arguments.

Also this:

Mike McMahon
‏@MikeMcMahonCHN
BU has nine wins against teams in the top-14 of the PWR this season. That’s huge.
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The QU win impacted BUs rpi same as at HU
 
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brassbonanza said:
Mike McMahon
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BU has nine wins against teams in the top-14 of the PWR this season. That’s huge.
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Would've only been 6 if not for NU sweeping ND. If ND won that series and assuming BU's same outcome, I believe BU would've dropped to 11 in PWR.
 
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Out of curiosity, how much higher could BU have gotten had they beat Lowell and played at the Garden? Or If they won? Everything I'm reading seems to have BU either 7/8/9 and being either a 2 or 3 seed. Would that change? Would it make our regional placement any different?
 
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Scarlet said:
Out of curiosity, how much higher could BU have gotten had they beat Lowell and played at the Garden? Or If they won? Everything I'm reading seems to have BU either 7/8/9 and being either a 2 or 3 seed. Would that change? Would it make our regional placement any different?
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6th

1 North Dakota 59 .5998 1 .0048 30-5-3 .8289 .8306
2 Quinnipiac 58 .5951 2 .0064 27-3-7 .8243 .8132
3 St. Cloud State 57 .5919 3 .0047 29-8-1 .7763 .7708
4 Providence 56 .5887 4 .0057 27-5-4 .8056 .8103
5 Boston College 55 .5846 5 .0076 26-6-5 .7703 .7680
6 Boston University 54 .5725 7 .0101 23-10-5 .6711 .6788
7 Denver 53 .5819 6 .0044 23-8-5 .7083 .7151
8 Michigan 52 .5662 8 .0028 22-7-5 .7206 .7152
9 Yale 51 .5528 10 .0035 19-8-4 .6774 .6741
10 Harvard 50 .5548 9 .0026 18-9-4 .6452 .6452
11 Notre Dame 49 .5506 11 .0049 19-10-7 .6250 .6124
12 Mass.-Lowell 48 .5418 12 .0047 21-10-5 .6528 .6408
13 Northeastern 47 .5413 13 .0046 20-13-5 .5921 .5989
14 Minnesota-Duluth 46 .5413 14 .0058 17-14-5 .5417 .5429
15 Michigan Tech 45 .5407 15 .0004 23-8-5 .7083 .7083
16 Cornell 44 .5373 16 .0055 16-11-7 .5735 .5719
 
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Scarlet said:
Would it make our regional placement any different?
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A lot of where we'll end up will depend on how many HE teams make it and on what line they are, in addition to where Yale/Harvard end up on the line. If BU and ND both end up on the same line, that just about eliminates us from going to Cincinnati as the committee will want them there for attendance. If it's a choice of sending us or Yale/HU out west to St. Paul, the chances are decent that we stay east for attendance reasons. Being the higher seed in that scenario would also be helpful. At this point, it's difficult to forecast.

Unless there are major changes, it appears the one seeds will be QU in Worcester, UND (unless SCSU wins NCHC and gets help) will be in St. Paul, the other will be in Cincinnati, and one of BC/PC will be in Albany. AHA likely goes to play QU to avoid a flight. From there it gets murky.
 
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chickod said:
So it sounds like you're saying that when BU wins it all this year, the loss last night will not have meant anything. Fine. You're right. I am anticipating that this team is not going to pull off what Providence did last year. Other than that, what do you not understand about 2 National Championships in 38 years?
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1978, 1995, 2009

There were stretches in that period (1990's) when we advanced to multiple FF and should probably have won a couple of more. Same in 1974, 75, 76, and 77 when Mike Eruzione et al made it and never got past Semi's. 1976 team may be the best to never win it all although 1991 is right there also.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Really think QU is going to be placed in Albany all other factors aside.
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Perhaps, but at this point it seems unlikely BC or PC passes them. Depends on if the committee thinks going to Albany over Worcester would be advantageous for QU. Probably not a huge difference either way. The thing that's interesting is it appears that BC/PC may end up as the one and two seed in the same region, Albany or Worcester.

A rough guess based on current PWR puts us in St. Paul against Michigan with UND as the 1.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Really think QU is going to be placed in Albany all other factors aside.
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not sure if anyone would be able to find this out but it's a 45 minute difference between Quinnipiac going to Worcester over Albany. has there ever been a situation that close? where a #1 seed was this close to two regionals.
 
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brassbonanza said:
Perhaps, but at this point it seems unlikely BC or PC passes them. Depends on if the committee thinks going to Albany over Worcester would be advantageous for QU. Probably not a huge difference either way.
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More for attendance than whether it is advantageous for QU. Imagine BC and PC going to Albany, and either having to get a hotel room on the eve of Easter, Or having to drive to Albany and back both nights if they make the second game. Two Catholic schools facing off on Easter Sunday a few hrs away? Not going to be a good crowd there.

It makes too much sense to just start with QU going to Albany (assuming they are higher) which is why the committee probably won't do it.
 
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J.D. said:
not sure if anyone would be able to find this out but it's a 45 minute difference between Quinnipiac going to Worcester over Albany. has there ever been a situation that close? where a #1 seed was this close to two regionals.
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Last year with Manchester and Providence. According to Google:
Agganis Arena to Verizon Wireless Arena is 57.1 miles with a travel time of 1 hour 2 minutes with no traffic
Agganis Arena to Dunkin' Donuts Center is 54.8 miles with a travel time of 1 hour 1 min with no traffic
BU was seeded 3 overall ahead of Miami and BU was sent to Manchester while Miami was sent to Providence.

In 2003 Cornell was the #1 seed overall and was sent to Providence despite Worcester being closer (UNH was sent to Worcester as the #3 overall seed):
Lynah Rink to Dunkin' Donuts Center is 325 miles with a travel time of 5 hours 20 minutes
Lynah Rink to DCU Center is 293 miles with a travel time of 4 hours 47 minutes
Now if the NCAA flew Cornell then Providence makes more sense, but I have no idea how Cornell traveled.

Sean
 
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J.D. said:
not sure if anyone would be able to find this out but it's a 45 minute difference between Quinnipiac going to Worcester over Albany. has there ever been a situation that close? where a #1 seed was this close to two regionals.
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One thing a lot of people are under the assumption of is that there is a rule that they place a team to its closest regional. There isn't. Or it depends on how you read "Step two is to place the home teams." Is QU more home in Worcester or Albany? BC or PC would certainly be much more home in Worcester than they would in Albany.

While the ECAC is the host and they selected Union, it sure would make some additional sense to put the ECACs top team in the regional their league is hosting. Going with what they have now for the field (not making a dumb assumption that Minnesota will be in as a AQ because Michigan is higher ranked), I would have Yale also being there.

Of these steps they have in their manual, it cites them to help ensure "financial success and the likelihood of a playoff-type atmosphere at each regional site"... you can certainly see the advantages of placing PC/BC in Worcester and QU in Albany with really no downside at all unless you consider another 30 minutes on a bus a problem for QU.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
One thing a lot of people are under the assumption of is that there is a rule that they place a team to its closest regional. There isn't. Or it depends on how you read "Step two is to place the home teams." Is QU more home in Worcester or Albany? BC or PC would certainly be much more home in Worcester than they would in Albany.

While the ECAC is the host and they selected Union, it sure would make some additional sense to put the ECACs top team in the regional their league is hosting. Going with what they have now for the field (not making a dumb assumption that Minnesota will be in as a AQ because Michigan is higher ranked), I would have Yale also being there.
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Good point. That being said, it would seem that BU almost certainly will not be in Worcester with BC and PC there, and very likely will not be in Cincinnati as the committee will almost assuredly place ND there, likely with Michigan as well for attendance reasons, thus leaving us in St. Paul or Albany. If they do shift QU to Worcester, that would shift our possibility there as well.
 
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CDRAL said:
1978, 1995, 2009

There were stretches in that period when we advanced to multiple FF and should probably have won a couple of more. Same in the 70's where we advanced 5 times and had only 1 title. Mike Eruzione et al made it all 4 years and never got past Semi's
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Just to clarify, there were five FF appearances AFTER the back-to-back titles in '71 and '72. So that's seven FFs and three titles over an 8-year period in the 70s.
 
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Question for Scarlet: Would you rather the boys get sent west or put in BC's region? :eek:





Yes, I know the answer. :)
 
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geez the last time there was a blowup of this magnitude in a bu thread it required a taskforce
 
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