Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
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Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is well!
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sterlippo1
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Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
ya, if you're gonna throw the game, dropping the puck into your own net probably isn't the way to go
Merry Christmas to you guys 
ya, if you're gonna throw the game, dropping the puck into your own net probably isn't the way to go
Merry Christmas to you guys 
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
Reminds me of the spat between Dr. Evil and his son Scott, where Scott advocates for the quick but messy solution to the Austin Powers *problem*, while Dad dismissively advocates the more clever but complex approach (which predictably fails).
Sometimes the simplest way IS the most obvious way. It was the third period, no? What if BU goes up 2 goals?? Despite the "Miami Miracle" in 2009, there is not a long history of late multi-goal comebacks in such games.
There were an awful lot of really bad plays in previous games. What if those were failed attempts to throw/shave??
Can you imagine the pressure that could have been brought to bear to "make good" in the Finals???
Personally ... I doubt it, and I don't want to believe something like this could have happened ... but I wouldn't bet my life on everything having being on the level, either.
ya, if you're gonna throw the game, dropping the puck into your own net probably isn't the way to go
Reminds me of the spat between Dr. Evil and his son Scott, where Scott advocates for the quick but messy solution to the Austin Powers *problem*, while Dad dismissively advocates the more clever but complex approach (which predictably fails).
Sometimes the simplest way IS the most obvious way. It was the third period, no? What if BU goes up 2 goals?? Despite the "Miami Miracle" in 2009, there is not a long history of late multi-goal comebacks in such games.
There were an awful lot of really bad plays in previous games. What if those were failed attempts to throw/shave??
Can you imagine the pressure that could have been brought to bear to "make good" in the Finals???
Personally ... I doubt it, and I don't want to believe something like this could have happened ... but I wouldn't bet my life on everything having being on the level, either.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
PC had 43 shots in the game. Any one or two of those other 42 shots could've easily been let in were he part of some conspiracy. There is absolutely nothing to this, plain and simple. There's more concrete evidence of a staged moon landing than there is that BU or O'Connor threw the game.
PC had 43 shots in the game. Any one or two of those other 42 shots could've easily been let in were he part of some conspiracy. There is absolutely nothing to this, plain and simple. There's more concrete evidence of a staged moon landing than there is that BU or O'Connor threw the game.
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The Zlax45
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Yep, puck jumping over a Miami Ohio stick with the game 5-4 and a wide open net.
A five minute major to Denver's best defenseman to give PC a power play in a tied game.
The only game they dominated was the Omaha game and we don't have to discuss the breaks in the BU games.
Also, the break of playing in a home regional didn't hurt!
Yep, no luck
ericredaxe
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Miami not having their top 2 goal scorers was a nice little break as well.
ya, if you're gonna throw the game, dropping the puck into your own net probably isn't the way to go
Yeah I would go for mishandling the puck behind my net.
I don't believe he threw the game think he just choked but he did have head scratching misplays in the UMD UND and PC games to your point
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
So what happened to Hoky’s factually-incorrect and malicious reply to BU2K posted yesterday afternoon? Did the admins remove it or was it “self-deported”?
Even more repugnant is that “the rumor is being perpetuated by coaches, agents and scouts in New England,” as reported by CHN and other sources. Just a matter of time before names are attached to the rumor.
Sounds more like someone is living vicariously.
So what happened to Hoky’s factually-incorrect and malicious reply to BU2K posted yesterday afternoon? Did the admins remove it or was it “self-deported”?
Even more repugnant is that “the rumor is being perpetuated by coaches, agents and scouts in New England,” as reported by CHN and other sources. Just a matter of time before names are attached to the rumor.
RefereeGrav
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Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
With the shortage of productive forwards for next semester, I wonder if the staff would consider moving Grizz to forward?. I am not usually one that advocates changing positions. However, if Grizz is willing, it would create a potentially dominant 1st line and the D core would still be well above average, even w/o Grizz.
With the shortage of productive forwards for next semester, I wonder if the staff would consider moving Grizz to forward?. I am not usually one that advocates changing positions. However, if Grizz is willing, it would create a potentially dominant 1st line and the D core would still be well above average, even w/o Grizz.
defkit
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Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
Interesting thought. I could see it in a must win game situation, but Grzelcyk was so good from the d position last year when he came back from his injury, I would rather put my faith in that happening again.
Interesting thought. I could see it in a must win game situation, but Grzelcyk was so good from the d position last year when he came back from his injury, I would rather put my faith in that happening again.
defkit
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Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
If you watch the UND misplay SHG, you can see there is not way it was purposeful. The puck is coming around the boards. OC goes back with intentions to play it. As he reaches the boards, he looks behind him to see where he wants to play it/leave it, and at the moment that he looks away from the puck, it kicks off the boards and heads towards his skate, rather than towards his stick against the boards, then ultimately gets kicked out front.
Again, there is nothing more telling about his intentions in the title game than his response (he basically loses it in the locker room) and his teammates response to his response that makes it obvious that this theory is nonsense.
If you watch the UND misplay SHG, you can see there is not way it was purposeful. The puck is coming around the boards. OC goes back with intentions to play it. As he reaches the boards, he looks behind him to see where he wants to play it/leave it, and at the moment that he looks away from the puck, it kicks off the boards and heads towards his skate, rather than towards his stick against the boards, then ultimately gets kicked out front.
Again, there is nothing more telling about his intentions in the title game than his response (he basically loses it in the locker room) and his teammates response to his response that makes it obvious that this theory is nonsense.
defkit
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Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
When was the last time BU had a non-USA player in the WJC?
How about a non-USA/non-Canada player? Did Redlihs ever play?
I'm really looking forward to watching tomorrow's game against Canada.
When was the last time BU had a non-USA player in the WJC?
How about a non-USA/non-Canada player? Did Redlihs ever play?
I'm really looking forward to watching tomorrow's game against Canada.
Chuck Murray
WIS & Effingwoods Hockey Almanac
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
Again, just playing devil's advocate here ... you think he wouldn't have lost it regardless IF there had been something going on? Just the sheer pressure of the situation, the weight and burden of the circumstances ... perhaps being caught in a situation where he hadn't totally grasped the gravity of it all until it all unfolded on him?? I'm not sure even a trained psych could differentiate between the two.
It's like if I were to say, hey, he left a year of eligibility on the table to turn pro on a free agent deal. That means he wanted to be away and didn't want to redeem himself with his teammates/program, so isn't that convenient? You say hey, he had an opportunity to sign pro terms and realize the next step of his "dream", how could he pass that up? Someone else might say, hey, why not bet on yourself (sorry for the uncomfortable choice of words there) and you'll get an even better free agent deal next year? It's not like draft rights had him tied to a single organization. As you can see, anything could probably be interpreted to support more than one conclusion, no?
Not everyone who's gotten caught up in these things in the past have been hardcore unfeeling sorts lacking a conscience at some level. Look at the BC hoops scandal, and compare the reactions of the likes of Kuhn (the hardcore organizer), Bagley (star on the fringes, in or out, was acquitted), and then Sweeney, who was in deep like Kuhn but clearly had mixed emotions as things played out. Or the Black Sox, where there were some guys were hardcore and ******ed because Comiskey (their owner) was a cheap bast!d, but others who likely just got caught in the crossfire (Joe Jackson being the most notable). I don't know enough about the CCNY and other college hoops scandals that happened before my time, but I'm sure there were a comparable mix of characters in those situations as well.
I do know the BC and CCNY hoops scandals both took almost a year to come to the surface. It will be interesting to see what (if anything?) else might come out if/when any of those 30+ suspects start facing jail time.
Again ... I doubt it, and I don't want to believe something like this could have happened ... all I'm saying is that there is enough out there so I wouldn't bet my life on everything having being on the level, either.
I think most objective neutrals, and even some pragmatic hardcore fans, would admit to similar feelings.
Again, just playing devil's advocate here ... you think he wouldn't have lost it regardless IF there had been something going on? Just the sheer pressure of the situation, the weight and burden of the circumstances ... perhaps being caught in a situation where he hadn't totally grasped the gravity of it all until it all unfolded on him?? I'm not sure even a trained psych could differentiate between the two.
It's like if I were to say, hey, he left a year of eligibility on the table to turn pro on a free agent deal. That means he wanted to be away and didn't want to redeem himself with his teammates/program, so isn't that convenient? You say hey, he had an opportunity to sign pro terms and realize the next step of his "dream", how could he pass that up? Someone else might say, hey, why not bet on yourself (sorry for the uncomfortable choice of words there) and you'll get an even better free agent deal next year? It's not like draft rights had him tied to a single organization. As you can see, anything could probably be interpreted to support more than one conclusion, no?
Not everyone who's gotten caught up in these things in the past have been hardcore unfeeling sorts lacking a conscience at some level. Look at the BC hoops scandal, and compare the reactions of the likes of Kuhn (the hardcore organizer), Bagley (star on the fringes, in or out, was acquitted), and then Sweeney, who was in deep like Kuhn but clearly had mixed emotions as things played out. Or the Black Sox, where there were some guys were hardcore and ******ed because Comiskey (their owner) was a cheap bast!d, but others who likely just got caught in the crossfire (Joe Jackson being the most notable). I don't know enough about the CCNY and other college hoops scandals that happened before my time, but I'm sure there were a comparable mix of characters in those situations as well.
I do know the BC and CCNY hoops scandals both took almost a year to come to the surface. It will be interesting to see what (if anything?) else might come out if/when any of those 30+ suspects start facing jail time.
Again ... I doubt it, and I don't want to believe something like this could have happened ... all I'm saying is that there is enough out there so I wouldn't bet my life on everything having being on the level, either.
I think most objective neutrals, and even some pragmatic hardcore fans, would admit to similar feelings.
mookie1995
there's a good buck in that racket.
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
what did mookie miss yesterday?!?
I guess the truth hurts.
what did mookie miss yesterday?!?
ericredaxe
Veteran
what did mookie miss yesterday?!?
Providence was the luckiest national champion ever and OC maybe threw the championship game.
brassbonanza
Super Serial
Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w
You neglect to consider (don't know?) that O'Connor graduated last spring, so he had every incentive to leave and go pro. He had his degree, he got into graduate school at BU, and was able to defer his admission while he tried his hand at pro hockey. This is a great example of spinning facts to fit a narrative. Has anyone suggested Schneider threw the game against MSU in 2007? Miami in 09? That Michigan goalie in 2011? This is nonsense.
You neglect to consider (don't know?) that O'Connor graduated last spring, so he had every incentive to leave and go pro. He had his degree, he got into graduate school at BU, and was able to defer his admission while he tried his hand at pro hockey. This is a great example of spinning facts to fit a narrative. Has anyone suggested Schneider threw the game against MSU in 2007? Miami in 09? That Michigan goalie in 2011? This is nonsense.
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