Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is well!

[Terrance]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Is there a motivation issue with this team? They play their absolute best hockey against BC. It seems like they go through the motions against everyone else, until they get into a desperate situation.

Which team between 2007 and 2015 is this referring to? Is it all of them? Because I think it's all of them.

 

[J.D.]

First I hoped he was staying down just to be sure he got the 5 minute call

Really?

 

[Bomber]

Really?

He doesn't mean it. #WeAren'tTheCanadians

 

[mookie1995]

He doesn't mean it. #WeAren'tTheCanadians

Here Mookie was thinking it was #thebcway

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Which team between 2007 and 2015 is this referring to? Is it all of them? Because I think it's all of them.

I must say, I have to give you credit. You're more blunt than I am! So dare I say even in 2009, when BU was CLEARLY far more talented than anyone else, they were "lucky" to win? I don't when this culture seeped in, but even Billy Jaffe alluded to it last night. BU just seems to skate around and not accomplish much. Yes, they are very talented. Yes, they are "clever" with the puck. But at some point, the nature of the game is still the same. Get people in front of the net and get the puck TO the net. The endless cycling, drop passes, diagonal passes, etc. are getting annoying. And the large ice at the Whitt just exacerbates the problem, because it gives them more room to do this stuff. It's wonderful that they are faster, more skilled and more elusive than most of their opponents. Great. But the object of the game is to SCORE GOALS. I'm thinking that maybe the reputation of the school being a good place to go if you want to get to the NHL is really starting to work against them. Some of these guys look like they are showing off rather than working hard enough for the team to win. I know this sounds harsh on the surface, but there is now almost ZERO change of avoiding the phony round and it is highly doubtful that this team is really going anywhere. So that begs the question, if ONE player is the difference between appearing in a National Championship game and a one and done, what does that tell you? Because I really think this is a one and done team (and when I say "one and done" I'm talking in Hockey East). I'll leave it for you all to speculate. I'll even go a step further. Does the paucity of people posting on this thread this year and the long "lapses" between meaningful chatter (which used to be lively up until this year seemingly) tell you something about the lack of interest in this team?????

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

scoring by classes....

SR -- 52g / 66a
JR -- 12g / 15a
SO -- 15g / 34a
FR -- 28g / 66a



AJ had 1/4 in 18gm
Andren has 2/3 in 13gm

everyone better be lighting a candle that greenway doesn't bolt.

 

[riverchief1]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

BU just seems to skate around and not accomplish much. Yes, they are very talented. Yes, they are "clever" with the puck. But at some point, the nature of the game is still the same. Get people in front of the net and get the puck TO the net. The endless cycling, drop passes, diagonal passes, etc. are getting annoying.

Same complaints we've had about UML for much of the season. Too much trying to be fancy or lazy passes leading to turnovers and not enough just getting to the front of the net.

 

[Jofa]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

tI'll even go a step further. Does the paucity of people posting on this thread this year and the long "lapses" between meaningful chatter (which used to be lively up until this year seemingly) tell you something about the lack of interest in this team?????

The team is actually more talented then most of the teams over the past 16 years. When they have played BC since 1998 the ice in most of those years seemed tilted dramatically BC's way. This year not as much they skated with BC pretty well. Team just looks like they are going through the motions not a ton of heart (third period late lapses, not many comebacks). How many impressive wins have they had this year when you said they look strong and this team can go somewhere. The last half of the Harvard game, I didn't see the Quinnipiac game but I assume that was a good win, Michigan I guess and maybe Denver. And all of those games but Harvard were before the break. Third period leads lost (PC, BC, Denver, UML, UNH off the top of my head). A strong weekend at ND could change all of that so they have a chance but I still dont see them in the same class with BC for sure and probably not PC/ND. They are closer to being Lowell/NU then they are those 3 teams.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

The team is actually more talented then most of the teams over the past 16 years.

Which is what makes this worse. How do you lose to Merrimack, Vermont and UConn (not disparaging them, but you don't see BC lose to teams like that)? I was at the UConn game down in Hartford and BU was, to put it bluntly, awful. Never even in the game. That is just unacceptable with the talent level on this roster. So some questions need to be asked. Perhaps the way they are marketing the program to the players is not conducive to a winning program any longer? Are we really telling them "This is your best path to the NHL?" Is BC telling them "We are looking for continuity...we will give you a great education that you can leverage if you don't make it in pro hockey. We want team guys who will sacrifice for one goal (no pun intended), which is to win." Because if that's the case (I'm just saying "if," I have no knowledge of this either way), it's obvious why they have become more successful. I say "become," because what has changed? We dominated BC for YEARS. But since 2000, it has been all Eagles (it took two last minute goals to beat them even in '09 when we won it all). And for those who want to say (let me preempt you right from the start) "Stop complaining...you guys are at the top every year," I would respond that we SHOULD be. This is our flagship sport. We don't have football any longer (don't even get me going), and baseball is not a big Division 1 sport in New England. Basketball is what it is. Like it or not, hockey is where it's at here. So if we can't be better than middle of the pack in Hockey East, we have a right to question the methodology. Obviously, just expansion alone has prevented long-term "dominance" like before, but two National Championships in 38 years is not exactly what we are looking for, is it?

 

[sterlippo1]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Which is what makes this worse. How do you lose to Merrimack, Vermont and UConn (not disparaging them, but you don't see BC lose to teams like that)?

really? BC lost to UConn last year and just tied them at Conte with a vastly superior team than the one that lost to them last year, then there was this beauty at Conte Forum

http://hockeyeastonline.com/men/recaps14.php?mbc_hcr1.n29

and then this more recent beauty

http://hockeyeastonline.com/men/recaps16.php?mbc_osu1.d28

point being, happens all the time

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

really? BC lost to UConn last year and just tied them at Conte with a vastly superior team than the one that lost to them last year, then there was this beauty at Conte Forum

http://hockeyeastonline.com/men/recaps14.php?mbc_hcr1.n29

and then this more recent beauty

http://hockeyeastonline.com/men/recaps16.php?mbc_osu1.d28

point being, happens all the time

shhhhh, he's on a roll

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

ARE WE SURE TODAY'S GAME IS AT 7PM???

MOOKIE'S SCHEDULE ON THE FRIDGE READS 4PM!!!

was this a previously scheduled family game that was wised-up upon? or is uscho tryin to show just how stupid the 4p starts are and changing it on their own?

WE (well, mookie) NEEDS TO KNOW NOW!!!!!

 

[Jofa]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

And for those who want to say (let me preempt you right from the start) "Stop complaining...you guys are at the top every year," I would respond that we SHOULD be. This is our flagship sport. We don't have football any longer (don't even get me going), and baseball is not a big Division 1 sport in New England. Basketball is what it is. Like it or not, hockey is where it's at here. So if we can't be better than middle of the pack in Hockey East, we have a right to question the methodology. Obviously, just expansion alone has prevented long-term "dominance" like before, but two National Championships in 38 years is not exactly what we are looking for, is it?

I guess I am no longer the most negative poster on this board! I think the next few years will be a big test if BU can get over that hump with playing second fiddle to BC. The recruiting over the last few years and level of players coming in as as high as its been since the early and mid 90's and right their with BC. And you are right even in 2009 and last year where they had better records then BC they still struggled with them. BC has owned BU physically and mentally for such a long time that it causes the frustration to boil over with these rants. I do think once York retires if ever the playing field could start evening off. Though Quinn coming in has made a difference vs the over matched latter years of Parker.

 

[defkit]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

But since 2000, it has been all Eagles (it took two last minute goals to beat them even in '09 when we won it all).

I'm confused about what you a referring to here. Are you talking about the 3 goal outburst in the third period of the HE Semis (Zach Cohen, Bran Strait, Colin Wilson)? That was in the third period, but nowhere near last minute. Or are you referring to the NCAA title game, which obviously wasn't against BC, but by "beat them" you mean that we went farther than them?

 

[defkit]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Really?

Let me clarify, because I am no fan of embellishment. I didn't WANT him to stay down. What I meant was, given that he IS staying down, I hope is doing it to make the point, because the only other option would be that he is really hurt, which is not a result I wanted.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

I'm confused about what you a referring to here. Are you talking about the 3 goal outburst in the third period of the HE Semis (Zach Cohen, Bran Strait, Colin Wilson)?

Yes...you're right. It SEEMED as though it was near the last minute, because we were sitting there getting more nervous by the second and it seemed as though we would never score. But yes, the HE semis.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

I guess I am no longer the most negative poster on this board!

Glad that I could wrest that title away from you. Since all I hear anyway is that I am "negative" (even though I am a realist and many want to just look through scarlet-colored glasses - and, by the way, notice the SMALL "s" - that's not a reference to Scarlet on this board but rather the BU colors), I'm used to it. But again, if everyone is happy with 2 national championships in 38 years, fine, go for it. I know I could get the "But you COULD be UNH or Miami, or whoever...how would THAT feel?" And, again, my response would be "The Patriots COULD be the Texans, Chargers, Bills, Bengals, etc. etc. etc." The problem is, we're not. Or at least we weren't.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

shhhhh, he's on a roll

Channeling my inner John Belushi... ("Was it OVER when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??!!!??!?!?!??!?!?!")

 

[Darius]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Glad that I could wrest that title away from you. Since all I hear anyway is that I am "negative" (even though I am a realist and many want to just look through scarlet-colored glasses - and, by the way, notice the SMALL "s" - that's not a reference to Scarlet on this board but rather the BU colors), I'm used to it. But again, if everyone is happy with 2 national championships in 38 years, fine, go for it. I know I could get the "But you COULD be UNH or Miami, or whoever...how would THAT feel?" And, again, my response would be "The Patriots COULD be the Texans, Chargers, Bills, Bengals, etc. etc. etc." The problem is, we're not. Or at least we weren't.

Not great.

We stole one last night. Blocked shots. Lots of blocked shots. 'cats play Terriers 10 times, BU (((should))) win 9.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2015-16 thread part 2-move along! nothing to see here! all is w

Not great.

Not meant to be disparaging. My point was, every time I say ANYTHING negative I get his with the "it could be worse" line. Meaning (I guess) that it's OK to accept underachievement. Well, that's consistent with today's society anyway..."Let it go." ... "What difference does it make?" .... you get the point...