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Boston University 2012-13 Season Thread -- Part II

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I have been a season ticket holder for over 25 years and I have seen this program in a steady decline since the day Marty Reasnor set foot on the BC campus.If anyone can really make a geniune argument that BU is an equal to BC there a fool. I sat and watched tonights game and I was dumb founded. The effort was erratic at best. We have now become a consolation team in the tournement we owned. We are no longer a team that anyone fears or considers elite by any means. Its painstaking seeing this program become what it has become. Jack Parker was a an excellent coach for many, many years, no longer can we say that his teams are considered a power any longer. The last few years has been awful. I now consider 2009 a miracle because without that miracle we would have been looking at I believe 15 yrs without a FF 4 appearence.
After tonight I have promised myself that if he remains the coach I will not be renewing my season tickets for which I have held for over 25 yrs. The games that we have lost ,Harvard, NE twice, UMass, should never have happened, but they did and will continue. This team has got worse as the season has gone on. This is so sad seeing this tradition vanish before our eyes!!!
 
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Yeah....umm, not much more to add about the game, but I have to say I think this ends really badly for everybody involved. I'm not sure what Parker is thinking, but anything I can come up with is not good. Does he not get what's going on? Does he not care? Does he think he can turn it around? :eek:

I get the sense some of the coach's accolytes out here think we want the guy grabbed from his office and tossed out on the street. Nothing could be further from the truth. A nice, dignified exit complete with a farewell tour would have been ideal. Now I don't see any decent endgame. One more off ice incident and the school will be forced to make a move, bearing in mind these kids don't seem to have much pride in their play or in wearing the school uniform. The other option is we limp through 2 more years of this, and then what will the coach's legacy end up being for anybody who doesn't remember 1973-1995? Right now its 1 FF in 16 years, 4 straight Beanpot losses (and 6 out of 7 I believe), 2 HE championships in 16 years, and we can't even make the Beanpot Final. Really, I'm more apprehensive than angry.
 
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then you people need to power down the laptop and CALL BROWNIE TOMORROW AND LET HIM KNOW HOW Y'ALL FEEL!! JOFA IS ALREADY GONNA CALL AND TELL THE PRES HE IS NOT DONATING ANY MORE OF THE TENS OF DOLLARS TO THE SCHOOL if parker remains. rise up! let's go!! c'mon people.. this is a movement. giddy up!!

jd is the only one reading this who cares. gotta get up and call brownie. now.
 
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The Zlax45 said:
I am a UNH grad and I don't even think you can talk...what does UNH have? A team that has underachieved under Umile throughout his tenure!

Come on man, don't talk about BU's issues when they are just as bad as UNH's!
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But we at least have football...
 
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Mookie, why don't you call brownie? Is BU still too relevant for that? At what point would you call?
 
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J.D. said:
Mookie, why don't you call brownie? Is BU still too relevant for that? At what point would you call?
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who says mookie hasn't?

i can't be the only one though. one is a nut ;)
 
chickod said:
Calling it "NU's second goal" is generous, don't you think? :rolleyes: That's about as close to an "own goal" as you can get. The thing is, after watching it ten times, I'm still not sure who Rosen was actually trying to pass to...
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There was no one out there but 4 points!
 
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Just sad at this point. First time in 25 years we have lost to NU in the Beanpot. Granted, a ridiculous record to start with, but just another sign of the times. This team is in a freefall at the moment.

If I had to grasp at any bright spot, it would be the O'Connor played pretty well. Obviously the second goal was not his fault, and it's hard to fault him on a fluky goal like the third one. Seriously, that can best be described as Roy deflecting Noonan's shot into the corner, into the net. Those two guys could try to repeat that play 100 times, and they might get the timing right and the bounce right once.

I have to give Rawlings props. BU was really turning it on at one point in the third period. They just couldn't get it past him.
 
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It is disappointing reading this thread, but not unexpected. So many are so quick to place all of the blame on Parker.

It has been disappointing going to the games, particularly the home games.
In the last few years BU seems to play better on the road. Maybe Agganis is too comfortable for them and their star culture.

The state of the program is nowhere near as bad as many on here would have us believe.
But, and it is a big but, the program is not where it should be.

As I posted earlier this week, there are still eight other Hockey East programs that would gladly trade our last decade with them. And yes, even the past few years.
The main issue is that BU standards have been measured against BC achievement for the last decade, and this is where the Terriers have come up woefully short. Can't imagine how miserable some people would be without '09 to clutch on to.

We haven't had the up-and-down seasons of Maine, nor the continued postseason disappointment of UNH. And basically, the rest of Hockey East hasn't done much more than make up the numbers.

Is it time for Parker to go?
I wonder if he has lost his spark, and his energy?
After 40 seasons, that could be forgiven.
But he should also recognize if it is time to go!

His legacy is secure. The rink is named after him. He's got plenty of dough, can sail to his heart's content and play with the grandchildren.
Does he still need this?
Is he as driven as he once was, and willing to put into what it takes?

In the back of my mind, after last season's problems, I wonder if Brown didn't tell him that this season would be his last. To go out and enjoy it, and then gracefully step aside, ostensibly on his own terms?

Basically playing two lines tonight was difficult to watch.
The dump-and-chase mentality of the power play continues to be stone age.
Having two defensemen have to play forward, and then moving one back to defense and sitting down your sixth defenseman, is not a good situation to be.
Watching O'Connor give up rebound after rebound is also tough to watch. He plays very good position, has good reflexes especially for a guy his size, but the rebounds ... opposing coaches have caught on.

I don't see Bavis being a serious candidate to replace Parker. Fairly or unfairly, I think he has been tainted by last season's troubles.
Buddy Powers is a good guy, who had a good run as a head coach at RPI and BGSU, and I don't think he has as much responsibility as second assistant as people think he has.
But it comes back to Parker.
How much longer? Two years left on his contract, but does HE want to see that out?

I still believe that the next head coach, whenever that is, comes from Mike Sullivan, David Quinn or John Hynes.
 
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Wow. Every team in Hockey East except one would trade on ice results with you over the last 5 years, and people are canceling their tickets? I guess I can understand canceling cause of off ice stuff, but why now? Why not after last season? Honestly, seems band-wagonish to me.

Watch as my reputation turns to BU red!
 
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jjmc85 said:
Wow. Every team in Hockey East except one would trade on ice results with you over the last 5 years, and people are canceling their tickets? I guess I can understand canceling cause of off ice stuff, but why now? Why not after last season? Honestly, seems band-wagonish to me.

Watch as my reputation turns to BU red!
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A lot of BU fans believe the Terriers should be tops, and anything less is not acceptable.
Heading into last weekend, BU was a couple of points out of first place with a roster nearly half being freshmen.

I agree that overall, the results should be better. Especially at home. But relatively speaking, being better than just about everyone else isn't good enough if it isn't better than BC.

A lot of us remember the 1970s, a lot of the 80s and all of the 90s when BC wasn't even the major rival (Cornell was way back, then Harvard and Maine).
BC is having a great extended run.
They have raised the bar, and we know that BU has the resources to get over it. The fact they aren't is what is troubling some posters.
 
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Harry Cleverly said:
A lot of BU fans believe the Terriers should be tops, and anything less is not acceptable.
Heading into last weekend, BU was a couple of points out of first place with a roster nearly half being freshmen.

I agree that overall, the results should be better. Especially at home. But relatively speaking, being better than just about everyone else isn't good enough if it isn't better than BC.

A lot of us remember the 1970s, a lot of the 80s and all of the 90s when BC wasn't even the major rival (Cornell was way back, then Harvard and Maine).
BC is having a great extended run.
They have raised the bar, and we know that BU has the resources to get over it. The fact they aren't is what is troubling some posters.
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If UNH has to allow Umile to write the ending to his career at the school, BU must do the same for Parker, to a point. What was uncovered over the offseason was troubling, bordering on the lack of institutional control, however, is not the biggest scandal coming out of Hockey East in the last 20 years. Is the program possibly on the decline? Maybe. Are teams allowed to have down years? Absolutely.

Now if you get rid of Parker are you prepared for the future of BU hockey without him around? Maine certainly hasn't been competitive regularly. LSSU hasn't been relevant in 2 decades. Be careful for what you are asking, and the replacement better be really good. Otherwise you will be ruing the day that Jack Parker was sent away due to a "lack of results"
 
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UNH09 said:
If UNH has to allow Umile to write the ending to his career at the school, BU must do the same for Parker, to a point. What was uncovered over the offseason was troubling, bordering on the lack of institutional control, however, is not the biggest scandal coming out of Hockey East in the last 20 years. Is the program possibly on the decline? Maybe. Are teams allowed to have down years? Absolutely.

Now if you get rid of Parker are you prepared for the future of BU hockey without him around? Maine certainly hasn't been competitive regularly. LSSU hasn't been relevant in 2 decades. Be careful for what you are asking, and the replacement better be really good. Otherwise you will be ruing the day that Jack Parker was sent away due to a "lack of results"
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I'm sorry but this logic doesn't work. If you hire a coach to replace Parker and he's no good, you're not stuck with him for 40 years. You fire him and them move on. Parker's almost 70. At some point he's going to go away anyway, so the idea that "we better hang onto him because who knows what comes after" is faulty unless time travel gets invented in the next couple of years.

Dick Umile should have been fired years ago. How that guy still has a job is beyond me.
 
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Rover said:
I'm sorry but this logic doesn't work. If you hire a coach to replace Parker and he's no good, you're not stuck with him for 40 years. You fire him and them move on. Parker's almost 70. At some point he's going to go away anyway, so the idea that "we better hang onto him because who knows what comes after" is faulty unless time travel gets invented in the next couple of years.

Dick Umile should have been fired years ago. How that guy still has a job is beyond me.
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omg!!! rover is RIGHT!!! :D
 
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