Boston University 2011 Offseason

[Federal League]

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Haven't been on here a lot recently...anything new on possible BU departures? Or is everyone said to be coming back?

Obviously there's always a chance of a late departure over the summer, but I'd have to think everyone's coming back at this point. I think Millan is the only one that's even something of a question mark right now, but I would think that if he's leaving, it would've already happened.

 

[mpereira]

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Haven't been on here a lot recently...anything new on possible BU departures? Or is everyone said to be coming back?

I haven't heard anything about any more guys leaving and have seen all the questionable guys(Coyle,Chiasson,and Millan) going to classes in the past week so I would assume they are all back but as we learned with Strait that can all change very quickly. I would guess they are all back but that could change when they go to their respective NHL teams developmental camps over the summer. That is just my opinion I am sure FL can answer your question in more detail. Warsofsky is back on campus too either moving out or trying to graduate over the summer maybe but I have seen him a couple times.

UPDATE- yeah just read the post below me

 

[BUTerrierfan]

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I haven't heard anything about any more guys leaving and have seen all the questionable guys(Coyle,Chiasson,and Millan) going to classes in the past week so I would assume they are all back but as we learned with Strait that can all change very quickly. I would guess they are all back but that could change when they go to their respective NHL teams developmental camps over the summer. That is just my opinion I am sure FL can answer your question in more detail. Warsofsky is back on campus too either moving out or trying to graduate over the summer maybe but I have seen him a couple times.

UPDATE- yeah just read the post below me

I still feel that one or two more will leave. NHL clubs are still in the playoffs as well as many AHL affiliates. When the season ends, they will all evaluate their personnel, who they will sign or re-sign, what free agents are available and how their draft choices do during the summer camps. My bet is we lose 2 more before Sept.

 

[Federal League]

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I still feel that one or two more will leave. NHL clubs are still in the playoffs as well as many AHL affiliates. When the season ends, they will all evaluate their personnel, who they will sign or re-sign, what free agents are available and how their draft choices do during the summer camps. My bet is we lose 2 more before Sept.

I'd be very surprised if BU lost two more.

 

[BUTerrierfan]

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I'd be very surprised if BU lost two more.

I'm hoping against it...but it's just a gut feeling...I'd like to be wrong.

 

[reBlur]

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I'm hoping against it...but it's just a gut feeling...I'd like to be wrong.

The only one I could possibly see leaving at this point is Millan. At the end of season banquet, Chiasson seemed pretty intent on returning next season to right the ship after this season. I interviewed both Coyle and his father for a feature, and Coyle was not satisfied with his freshman year. He loves it at BU and his father kept talking about how much better Coyle plans to be at BU next year. Both of their attitudes seemed to hint that Coyle has not thought about leaving for the Sharks at all yet.

I have a gut feeling that Millan will stay but I have not heard from him directly about it. I've heard from some sources that he does not have an interest in lingering around the AHL for a while and wants to marry his girlfriend and get on with his life, but that is not straight from him.

 

[BUTerrierfan]

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The only one I could possibly see leaving at this point is Millan. At the end of season banquet, Chiasson seemed pretty intent on returning next season to right the ship after this season. I interviewed both Coyle and his father for a feature, and Coyle was not satisfied with his freshman year. He loves it at BU and his father kept talking about how much better Coyle plans to be at BU next year. Both of their attitudes seemed to hint that Coyle has not thought about leaving for the Sharks at all yet.

I have a gut feeling that Millan will stay but I have not heard from him directly about it. I've heard from some sources that he does not have an interest in lingering around the AHL for a while and wants to marry his girlfriend and get on with his life, but that is not straight from him.

I don't disagree with the thoughts here, but when NHL teams and GM's come knocking and making all sorts of promises (most of which are not kept), players and their families get star struck and things do happen, original desires and plans will change....we won't know until it has happened

 

[Rover]

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I don't disagree with the thoughts here, but when NHL teams and GM's come knocking and making all sorts of promises (most of which are not kept), players and their families get star struck and things do happen, original desires and plans will change....we won't know until it has happened

For me it starts with the question of has anybody on the team earned their way into the pros and ends with what is the situation of the team that has their rights. Nobody on this team has earned a promotion. One could make the case for Millan based on the championship season but he didn't have to pull a Marty Turco to win that title. More of a Tommy Noble.

What I don't recall is who these guys would be competing for a roster spot with if they tried to make the jump. I could see Warsofsky's reasoning with the Bruins (cheap team looking for rooks over vets, 5 spots up for grabs after Chara assuming Kaberle doesn't want to take a "Jacobs discount"). Not sure about these guys.

 

[Federal League]

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I could see Warsofsky's reasoning with the Bruins (cheap team looking for rooks over vets, 5 spots up for grabs after Chara assuming Kaberle doesn't want to take a "Jacobs discount"). Not sure about these guys.

I know we got into this debate before, but I don't see how on earth you come up with five spots on the B's blue line being up for grabs. Seidenberg, Ference and McQuaid are all well above average NHL defensemen and are all under contract for next season. They're not going anywhere, so that's four sports locked down. Boychuk is at least an average NHL defenseman and is pretty close to a lock for one of the top-six spots next season. I don't think any B's prospect is ready to be even an average NHL d-man yet, so I don't see anyone beating him out.

I see only one spot on the B's blue line being open next season -- Kaberle's, because I don't think Chiarelli can justify resigning him after the way he's played. I think they're more likely to sign someone else than open it up to a rookie competition, but we'll see. Even if they do go with one of the young guys, Kampfer, Alexandrov and Bartkowski are clearly ahead of Warsofsky in their development right now, although it's certainly not out of the question that he could beat them out with a good camp and preseason. All in all, I'd put the chances of Warsofsky being a top-six d-man on the B's next season at less than 5 percent.

 

[goalguard]

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Parker tends to do better turning defensemen into pros, not surprising given his defense first philosophy, not to mention an offense that relies heavily on shots from the blue line. However, for forwards the list of highly touted busts is long and there for all to see. I don't even like thinking about it.

I may be wrong, but in recent years hasn't HE overall produced more talented defensemen (and goalies) for the NHL than impact forwards? Gionta has been great for the Habs in the current Bruins series, but he graduated a decade ago. Think about the guns from the 90s (Amonte, Tkachuk, McEachern, Drury, and oh yeah, Kariya, just to name a few). Maybe people who follow the pros more than closely than I do can remind me of more recent HE-NHL forwards of that caliber, but I can't think of them off hand. If my impression is more or less right, is it just with HE or with college hockey generally?

(Incidentally, I was interested to see that Gionta's highest point total was his freshman year; he went down -- a little -- each successive year. Must have been the coaching.)

 

[Federal League]

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I may be wrong, but in recent years hasn't HE overall produced more talented defensemen (and goalies) for the NHL than impact forwards? Gionta has been great for the Habs in the current Bruins series, but he graduated a decade ago. Think about the guns from the 90s (Amonte, Tkachuk, McEachern, Drury, and oh yeah, Kariya, just to name a few). Maybe people who follow the pros more than closely than I do can remind me of more recent HE-NHL forwards of that caliber, but I can't think of them off hand. If my impression is more or less right, is it just with HE or with college hockey generally?

Maybe not quite at that level, but Brian Boyle, Teddy Purcell, Nathan Gerbe, Viktor Stalberg, James van Riemsdyk, Colin Wilson, Brandon Yip, Ben Smith and Bobby Butler all come to mind as guys who have had quite a bit of success in the NHL already and at least have the potential to be an All-Star someday. I might even be forgetting a couple.

 

[goalguard]

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Maybe not quite at that level, but Brian Boyle, Teddy Purcell, Nathan Gerbe, Viktor Stalberg, James van Riemsdyk, Colin Wilson, Brandon Yip, Ben Smith and Bobby Butler all come to mind as guys who have had quite a bit of success in the NHL already and at least have the potential to be an All-Star someday. I might even be forgetting a couple.

I think you just made my case. Those are good players, but no way comparable to those from the 90s. That's not just looking back on their whole careers. All you have to do is look at their numbers right out of college.

Gerbe has 18 NHL goals since leaving BC in '08. Good for him. At that point in their careers: Tkachuk-72, Amonte-84, Drury-64, etc.

Something has changed. Maybe if Pat Kane had been born 10 years earlier, he would have done a couple of years in school before heading to the pros.

 

[Federal League]

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I think you just made my case. Those are good players, but no way comparable to those from the 90s. That's not just looking back on their whole careers. All you have to do is look at their numbers right out of college.

Gerbe has 18 NHL goals since leaving BC in '08. Good for him. At that point in their careers: Tkachuk-72, Amonte-84, Drury-64, etc.

Something has changed. Maybe if Pat Kane had been born 10 years earlier, he would have done a couple of years in school before heading to the pros.

Fair enough. I wasn't really trying to argue that you don't have a point because I think you probably do. Just pointing out that HE is still putting successful forwards in the NHL, even if they're not superstars like Amonte or Tkachuk.

 

[ericredaxe]

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I could see Warsofsky's reasoning with the Bruins (cheap team looking for rooks over vets, 5 spots up for grabs after Chara assuming Kaberle doesn't want to take a "Jacobs discount").

Umm.. you do know that the NHL now has a salary cap, and the Bruins are pretty much spending up to the salary cap limit?

 

[Rover]

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Umm.. you do know that the NHL now has a salary cap, and the Bruins are pretty much spending up to the salary cap limit?

Ummm, did you know the Bruins have the cheapest owner in all of sports, and if he got the chance to swap out an expensive free agent for a cheaper alternative, he'd do it even if it made the team worse off in the long run? You do realize what franchise we're talking about, right?

 

[Hokydad]

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Ummm, did you know the Bruins have the cheapest owner in all of sports, and if he got the chance to swap out an expensive free agent for a cheaper alternative, he'd do it even if it made the team worse off in the long run? You do realize what franchise we're talking about, right?

they spend 100% of the salary cap every year, period.

Next....

 

[Ruikka Task]

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Warsofsky would fit in so well with the Bruins whoever said it is right, after Chara they are pretty thin and he could certainly take a big time role in a D spot at some point next year and make a big difference for the Bs.

 

[Ruikka Task]

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The Parker supporters have been scarce around here lately.

Life has gotten in the way of posting as much as I would like to but I would probably be called a Parker supporter. Parker's tough style of coaching may not be right for some but it's just his style and it has produced not just a national championship recently but a dominant one. I think its a little soon to be throwing the guy under the bus after just a couple years not winning the national championship guys.

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Warsofsky would fit in so well with the Bruins whoever said it is right, after Chara they are pretty thin and he could certainly take a big time role in a D spot at some point next year and make a big difference for the Bs.

Are we talking about Warsofsky? Or Nick Lidstrom?

 

[mpereira]

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Are we talking about Warsofsky? Or Nick Lidstrom?

I think this is the first time I have agreed with you. Warsofsky is a solid two years in the AHL away from even being considered for the final NHL roster unless he does something spectacular next year in training camp but I would say that would be unexpected especially with Cohen, Bartkowski, and others ahead of him. He isn't even a scratch right now like Colby Cohen, Bartkowski and others are.