Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with us?

[brassbonanza]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

So then do I also have a right to complain about the abundance of large groups of kids at the game, and how they frequently go to the bathroom 4-5 times a game, meaning they stand up and block my view of half of the ice during normal gameplay when they leave, and then by the time they make it down the steps to their row after a whistle, the ensuing faceoff has already occurred? I've actually had to tell various parents to sit down a few times because they were just randomly standing and talking to their kid for no reason while the game was on, and if I stood up, everyone behind me would yell at me instead.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

This is a hot topic for my family at the Philly Union soccer games. As I mentioned yesterday they solicit your preference for how you'd like to watch a game, which solves 90% of the issue. But, the two dorky kids in front of us stand up on every play that looks promising. Thus, they block every shot, every goal and every key call at that end of the field. Everybody stands up when we score, not everybody stands up every time we take a shot. Even if we could jump up the instant they do, we still can't see until we are standing all the way up, by which point the play has occured.

I have no idea why people need to stand for every 2-1 break in hockey...do they stand up in their den if they are watching on TV? It isn't just the excitement, it is some other urge or inability to contain themselves, and it does include a dose of not caring what the people behind you see or don't see.

The players don't score or make a save because you stood up the moment the puck crossed the blue line, you don't see it any better standing up, the players don't know you are standing. The game is full of exciting moments, there is no need to stand up every time we take a shot or have a play developing...which isn't the same as saying sit on your hands or don't make noise.

I suspect my 6th grade music teacher would suggest standing helps with your singing etc. but I don't think standing creates much incremental noise in a .2 second span in a packed hockey arena. The noise doesn't impact the completion of a pass or put a shot on goal...the one time players wouldn't hear noise is when they are in the midst of handling the puck on a big play. Wouldn't the noise fire up a team more during TV breaks or before a faceoff? But that is the time for people to check their iphones, iforgot.

The baseball analogy may not apply here...do we jump up on every pitch? Every pitch could lead to a home run, a hit batter, a great put out etc. So why not jump to your feet every time the pitcher releases the ball?

That's what I said...I jump up about three times a game, or a total of about 12 seconds in three hours. This is why I don't understand why everyone has assaulted me without first reading the post. Unless they like to just "pile on." I am NOT inconsiderate and I am not intentionally trying to disrupt anyone. I don't know how people make the leap from "spontaneously jumping up" to STANDING the entire game. I'm not one of the dorky kids at the Philly Union game...

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

So then do I also have a right to complain about the abundance of large groups of kids at the game, and how they frequently go to the bathroom 4-5 times a game, meaning they stand up and block my view of half of the ice during normal gameplay when they leave, and then by the time they make it down the steps to their row after a whistle, the ensuing faceoff has already occurred? I've actually had to tell various parents to sit down a few times because they were just randomly standing and talking to their kid for no reason while the game was on, and if I stood up, everyone behind me would yell at me instead.

Yes, you do. That's totally different. That is pre-meditated. People KNOW they are just standing around talking. It is NOT spontaneous. Does anyone differentiate (I'd use the word discriminate, which using psychology terminology is actually the correct term, but that would probably cause another firestorm) anymore? Do we paint everything with the same broad brush? Why is this so difficult? A great play happens - I spontaneously react and jump up and cheer. That's OK. Standing in the aisle talking (whether obliviously or not) when people are there to see a game is rude and inconsiderate. There is a DIFFERENCE. And thanks for the info about my account; however, no, I did not post seven times in a row (but as I look at the post "count" I see it went up significantly), so I guess I'll have to contact USCHO...

 

[claver2010]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Nips, no. Other forms of alcohol, yes. That's all I was talking about, with respect to the RSIG guy asking me to take off my hat entering the arena to ensure there were no nips hidden between my hat and my head.

If you wanted to smuggle in booze, nips would be the easiest way to do such, but what do I know?

You're lucky you didn't go to any BC football games during the Matt Ryan/Jeff Jagodzinski era. Made TSA's "special searches" seem tame.

 

[ActionJoe]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Nips, no. Other forms of alcohol, yes. That's all I was talking about, with respect to the RSIG guy asking me to take off my hat entering the arena to ensure there were no nips hidden between my hat and my head.

Nips between your hat and head? That's just silly. Just about as silly as trying to bring a mixed drink in a coke bottle. Who would ever do that?

 

[Terrier520]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Nips between your hat and head? That's just silly. Just about as silly as trying to bring a mixed drink in a coke bottle. Who would ever do that?

To be fair, I brought a 20 oz Disani water bottle filled with pure Vodka into the 2008 Beanpot consolation game.

 

[Agganis]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Nips between your hat and head? That's just silly. Just about as silly as trying to bring a mixed drink in a coke bottle. Who would ever do that?

To be fair, I brought a 20 oz Disani water bottle filled with pure Vodka into the 2008 Beanpot consolation game.

To be even fairer I opened up a winery in Agganis last weekend.

 

[pirate]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

To be even fairer I opened up a winery in Agganis last weekend.

To be the most fair, I tunneled under Agannis, built a distillery and ran a hose up through the concrete to the side of my chair. Since I built the distillery over 12 years ago and have been quietly biding my time, I now have the best scotch on tap in my whole section... although I see the guy three rows down filtering his vodka through a Scott Young game-worn jersey...I'm getting concerned he may be way ahead of me.

 

[acs64]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with us?


Not Me !!

 

[Bomber]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Wow, Chickod is really off his meds today.

BU Hockey: Running to Stand Still

 

[BUPhD]

To be the most fair, I tunneled under Agannis, built a distillery and ran a hose up through the concrete to the side of my chair. Since I built the distillery over 12 years ago and have been quietly biding my time, I now have the best scotch on tap in my whole section... although I see the guy three rows down filtering his vodka through a Scott Young game-worn jersey...I'm getting concerned he may be way ahead of me.

To be fair, I dug a walkable tunnel from my seat in Agganis all the way to an isolated pier in the harbor where rum runners organized by Whitey Bulger's crew can roll barrels of moonshine transported from this sills out in the Berkshires.

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Good to see Chiasson turning it on at the right time. The video from Friday night showed many slick moves, despite the loss. A quick review shows that other than the 2009 season, the only other Terrier to get to 44 points since about 2000 is Peter MacArthur with 45.

Trying to get the thread back onto BU hockey, I'm not quite sure why you're discounting the 2008-09 season. That said, it was the 1997-98 season when Chris Drury ended the season with 57 points. That ended a six season run (and 14-of-15 seasons) of the leading scoring topping 50 points.

Sean

 

[ericredaxe]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

I sure as hell do. As someone with osteoarthritis and bone on bone in my left knee, I don't have the option of spontaneously "jumping up". There is someone by me who always jumps up EVERY TIME we have a breakaway on the far end. He ends up directly between me and the goal which completely blocks my view. I understand the excitement factor and wish I could join him, but I can't and miss the play every time. I've talked to him, I've yelled at him, yet he keeps doing it.

But just because it adds to his enjoyment, who care if it detracts from someone else's? That's not inconsiderate at all...

That must be rough for you, and I'm sorry. But I can sympathize with the person in front of you too. Almost any odd-man rush makes me leap out of my seat, even if its right in front of me. It's pathological and I don't think I could control it if I tried. If the person in front of me pleaded I might try to control it though.

Agree with Knights that I'm sorry about that for BU2K. This does seem like an exception to the norm where two things that are very reasonable collide. I do think that it is reasonable that sometimes the game will bring the fans to their feet for a few moments here or there but it is also reasonable for BU2K to want to be able to see the whole of the games. Are the people in front of that person standing too and thus obstructing his view causing him to stand? If not, a "win win" might be to offer to swap season ticket locations with him for next season... I would assume the ticket locations are of similar quality.

 

[defkit]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Trying to get the thread back onto BU hockey, I'm not quite sure why you're discounting the 2008-09 season. That said, it was the 1997-98 season when Chris Drury ended the season with 57 points. That ended a six season run (and 14-of-15 seasons) of the leading scoring topping 50 points.

Sean

I'm not "discounting" the 2009 season - I just think we all know that Wilson and Bonino both had 50+ points that season, but that had been the first time in a while, so I wanted to see who else other than that year had as many as Chiasson has. For what it is worth, those 50 point totals were likely in more games to this point (I forget if those 2 IceBreaker games counted towards the max, but Wilson missed games for the WJC, I believe). With at leat two games to go, Chiasson has a chance to reach the 50 point mark.

 

[rewind2482]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

There's a breakaway, I'm standing up, and then you can kick me out if you want, whiners and complainers be ****ed.

Same thing with deep fly balls. In standing room in Fenway, people standing up made me unable to see the action, and I never *****ed about that.

It's sad how much the potential for a great environment is wasted at Agganis Arena, but I suppose that's what happens when you price out the majority of fans.

 

[Sean Pickett]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

I'm not "discounting" the 2009 season - I just think we all know that Wilson and Bonino both had 50+ points that season, but that had been the first time in a while, so I wanted to see who else other than that year had as many as Chiasson has. For what it is worth, those 50 point totals were likely in more games to this point (I forget if those 2 IceBreaker games counted towards the max, but Wilson missed games for the WJC, I believe). With at leat two games to go, Chiasson has a chance to reach the 50 point mark.

Here are the seasonal points-per-game leaders since the start of Hockey East in 1984-85:

Player              Season    GP    PPG
John Cullen         1984-85   41   1.44
John Cullen         1985-86   43   1.72
John Cullen         1986-87   36   1.44
Mike Kelfer         1987-88   34   1.56
Mike Kelfer         1988-89   33   1.58
Tony Amonte         1989-90   41   1.41
Shawn McEachern     1990-91   41   2.00
David Sacco         1991-92   35   1.34
David Sacco         1992-93   40   1.55
Mike Pomichter      1993-94   40   1.33
Mike Grier          1994-95   37   1.49
Chris Drury         1995-96   37   1.84
Chris Drury         1996-97   41   1.51
Chris Drury         1997-98   38   1.50
Albie O'Connell     1998-99   36   1.08
Tommi Degerman      1999-00   42   1.02
Carl Corazzini      2000-01   35   1.03
Mike Pandolfo       2001-02   38   1.05
Frantisek Skladany  2002-03   41   0.85
Ryan Whitney        2003-04   38   0.66
David Van der Gulik 2004-05   41   0.76
Peter MacArthur     2005-06   40   0.98
Peter MacArthur     2006-07   39   0.92
Peter MacArthur     2007-08   40   1.13
Colin Wilson        2008-09   43   1.28
Nick Bonino         2009-10   33   1.15
Alex Chiasson       2010-11   35   0.97
Alex Chiasson       2011-12   36   1.22

Sean

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Wow, Chickod is really off his meds today.

BU Hockey: Running to Stand Still

She hit a nerve...and you know the funny thing is - I don't jump up and cheer until AFTER the goal is scored (I mean, I'm not clairvoyant), so I'm not "blocking" anyone's view of ANYTHING...

No worse than looking at the webcast and seeing the dancing Rhetts ("WE WIN!!") when it would be nice to see, for example, the handshake line or a shot of the team...

 

[CLS]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

She hit a nerve...and you know the funny thing is - I don't jump up and cheer until AFTER the goal is scored (I mean, I'm not clairvoyant), so I'm not "blocking" anyone's view of ANYTHING...

No worse than looking at the webcast and seeing the dancing Rhetts ("WE WIN!!") when it would be nice to see, for example, the handshake line or a shot of the team...

To me, that's an important distinction, and I suspect if you had said that in the first place you wouldn't have gotten the reaction you did. IMO, standing up after a goal is entirely reasonable and I do it myself. But there are a lot of people who stand up often while the play is going on and, since you can't necessarily anticipate when they'll stand up, they do block the view of people behind them, and I think that's really inconsiderate.

 

[chickod]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

To me, that's an important distinction, and I suspect if you had said that in the first place you wouldn't have gotten the reaction you did. IMO, standing up after a goal is entirely reasonable and I do it myself. But there are a lot of people who stand up often while the play is going on and, since you can't necessarily anticipate when they'll stand up, they do block the view of people behind them, and I think that's really inconsiderate.

Fair point...sorry, I assumed that when I said "spontaneously react to a great play" it implies that the great play has to happen FIRST. I don't know how I can anticipate a great play, but, yes, I'll take the blame for my "wording."

Let's move on to the Garden! By the way, my seats are in the last row of the loge, so the only people I'll be blocking are the ones in the concourse behind me walking around.

 

[BU2K]

Re: Boston University 2011-2012 Part V: At least 6 more games, maybe 13... who's with

Agree with Knights that I'm sorry about that for BU2K. This does seem like an exception to the norm where two things that are very reasonable collide. I do think that it is reasonable that sometimes the game will bring the fans to their feet for a few moments here or there but it is also reasonable for BU2K to want to be able to see the whole of the games. Are the people in front of that person standing too and thus obstructing his view causing him to stand? If not, a "win win" might be to offer to swap season ticket locations with him for next season... I would assume the ticket locations are of similar quality.

Fortunately I will be meeting with the surgeon in 2 weeks and should be able to get a knee replacement in the off season so it won't be as much of issue going forward.