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Boston University 2010-11 Part III - Is That So Much To Ask?

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Jofa said:
Short list has Quinn and Sullivan on it. Not Cahoon. Don Sweeney intriques me though he hasnt coached previously. Sneedon, Jeff Jackson.
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I'm always intrigued when someone mentions Mike Sullivan as a potential successor. Since he graduated from BU in 1990, there has been one season in which he had exposure to college hockey. Otherwise, all of his experience in in the NHL. Does he have feel for recruitment? Does he have any contacts in preps, USHL, USNDP, Canada? This is no criticism of him, but why do so many persons consider him to be a prime candidate?
 
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buoldtimer said:
I'm fairly certain that I've read / heard JP say within the last couple of years, that the next coach will be a BU guy. If I'm wrong, if I'm the only one who observed this comment, please state otherwise.
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I don't foresee anyone outside the BU family getting a crack at replacing Parker when that day comes. I think the short-list of potential successors include Quinn, Sullivan, Bavis and John Hynes. I'd also love to see someone like Amonte, Scott Lachance, McEachern or Scott Young come on board as an assistant.

FWIW, Quinn's departure has impacted the program more than I think people realize.
 
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slurpees said:
Let's be careful not to lose sight of the fact that this team is very young and very inexperienced by and large. That certainly doesn't excuse a pitiful performance yesterday against a team we should've been able to beat with our hands tied behind our backs, but young teams across the board are notorious for being sporadic. If it weren't for a couple of bounces here and there, the '08 team could've easily lost to a bad NU team in the consolation game. I think we all got a little bit of glitter in our eyes in the first month or two of the season, when we really didn't accomplish more than two good wins early on, then beating a bunch of teams we clearly were better than. There have been some solid performances throughout, the two UNH wins and the loss last Monday come to mind, and some woefully bad performances, last night, the Brown loss, etc. That's the mark of a young, sporadic team. The good thing about youth is there's opportunity for them to get it together. They have not mathematically dug themselves a hole they cannot dig out of without an autobid. Heck, I believe we can technically clinch home ice this weekend if things fall right. Unlikely, but possible. Let's not get overly caught up in some comments a few minutes after a disheartening loss and look at everything in a vacuum. One week ago today, I'd bet if you asked most people on here if given the choice to see the performance against BC last Monday every night for the rest of the season, would you take it, most if not all would say yes, and be happy about it. This isn't a Frozen Four caliber team this season, but this is a young, raw, talented group. Just because we had a woefully bad game yesterday isn't isn't a sign that the program is in disarray. Was the program in disarray last Monday when this young team put just about everything they had on the ice against a great team, the odds-on national title favorite, and were a bounce here or there away from beating them? Changes need to be made, the power play is terrible and a huge crutch. Some guys may be having difficulties in certain parts of their games, but outside of last night, I haven't seen much in the way of effort problems for quite some time. The changes are specific and isolated, I'm not seeing them as institutional.
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All valid but at the same time, shouldn't we expect some continuity in perfomance? This isn't a school where we should be happy to be very good every 3-4 years as long as nothing goes wrong. There are enough good players that we should be able to plan ahead for NHL departures and still not go from almost unbeatable to not even getting into the NCAA's for a few years in a row.

One thing that I would suggest is that our goaltending is consistently below the upper tier. Fields was better than expected and Millan got hot for one season (which almost went out the door with a weak #3 goal and a near disaster with 1.4 seconds left in regulation in the NC game). Other than that, have we had consistent NCAA final four goaltending for any stretch of time (including DiPietro's one year)? How can we explain a stretch where BU can't attract and/or develop a decent goalie? Bennett was terrible when he was here, he may be in the HOF someday but at BU he was worse than Ray Charles in goal. At least with Ray you'd have no expectation he'd stop something.

Also, not enough Irish guys in the lineup. We need more guys name O'Something or Somethinghan. But I might be stretching it a bit there.
 
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Friend_of_BU_Hockey said:
I don't foresee anyone outside the BU family getting a crack at replacing Parker when that day comes. I think the short-list of potential successors include Quinn, Sullivan, Bavis and John Hynes. I'd also love to see someone like Amonte, Scott Lachance, McEachern or Scott Young come on board as an assistant.
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Hynes is an interesting name I haven't seen thrown around much. He's young (35), but he certainly has plenty of experience. Assistant at UML and Wisconsin, head coach in the USNTDP for six years and now head coach for the Pens' AHL team. I'd have to think he has a ton of recruiting connections from his time in Ann Arbor, including the obvious connection to the program itself. The question with him, and also with Quinn and Sullivan, is if he'd be willing to come to BU when there's a chance of an NHL team calling in the not so distant future.

It's interesting that Amonte, McEachern and Young all became prep school head coaches this season. Certainly becoming a college assistant could be the next step from there.
 
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buoldtimer said:
I'm always intrigued when someone mentions Mike Sullivan as a potential successor. Since he graduated from BU in 1990, there has been one season in which he had exposure to college hockey. Otherwise, all of his experience in in the NHL. Does he have feel for recruitment? Does he have any contacts in preps, USHL, USNDP, Canada? This is no criticism of him, but why do so many persons consider him to be a prime candidate?
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Agree with your doubts on Sullivan, he just has the demeanor I would like to see thats why I mention him, more the York, Sneddon type and the less the Parker, Umile type is what I was thinking, Quinn's in that preferred mold as well.
 
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does anybody think that there's a chance that coach durocher would leave the women's team to coach the men? he was an assistant under Parker for at least a little while, was he not?
 
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Federal League said:
Hynes is an interesting name I haven't seen thrown around much. He's young (35), but he certainly has plenty of experience. Assistant at UML and Wisconsin, head coach in the USNTDP for six years and now head coach for the Pens' AHL team. I'd have to think he has a ton of recruiting connections from his time in Ann Arbor, including the obvious connection to the program itself. The question with him, and also with Quinn and Sullivan, is if he'd be willing to come to BU when there's a chance of an NHL team calling in the not so distant future.

It's interesting that Amonte, McEachern and Young all became prep school head coaches this season. Certainly becoming a college assistant could be the next step from there.
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Now we are talking Scott. I like the direction of the conversation on the board today. Very productive.
 
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pirate said:
Also, not enough Irish guys in the lineup. We need more guys name O'Something or Somethinghan. But I might be stretching it a bit there.
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Don't forget the McSomethings!

As for the goaltending, I think you're forgetting a great one from, say, 2004-07.
 
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Not that I agree with Jofa's call to get rid of Parker after each tough loss (although I don't completely disagree with him), but as a thought exercise, what would it take for Parker to leave or be asked to leave? Do most people think that he's got the job more or less without question for as long as he wants? From Parker's standpoint, is there anything else left to accomplish, after which he would step down?

IMO he has the job as long as he wants and he will most likely stay until his health forces him to step down
 
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Friend_of_BU_Hockey said:
FWIW, Quinn's departure has impacted the program more than I think people realize.
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I know I've heard similar things from multiple people around the program, mostly around the end of last season. There was a remarkable amount of respect for Quinn in the BU locker room.
 
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I think the downfall of BU is overstated on this thread.

This team had some bad luck during the 2000-2008 stretch in question, starting with that 4OT heartbreaker against LSSU where Aufiero hit the crossbar in 3OT and missed a chance to go to the FF that season. The '01 team had terrible goaltending, thanks in part to DiPietro's early departure. The '02 team finished unexpectedly well but were beaten twice in 2 weeks by a superior Maine team to (again) miss the FF by a game. The '03 team also rode a hot Fields to get within a game of the FF but was by and large pretty mediocre.

In '05 and '06 BU made the tournament and won a HE trophy. Neither of those years can really be categorized as failures. In '05 I believed that NoDak was the better team and in '06 BC was pretty even with BU but was better on that particular day. I still believe that if '06 BU and BC play that game 100 times, each are winning 50. The '07 team was not that great but still managed an NCAA appearance and a Beanpot. '10 was marred by a slew of departures following the NC game, which should surprise no one.

The '01 to '04 teams were really hurt by a highly disappointing result from what should have been a great recruiting class (Sabo, Collins, etc.) and one that was just simply poor recruiting (Skaldany, Gregg Johnson, etc.). The former class was lauded nearly universally as being excellent, but they never developed. I suppose you can put some of that on Parker, but I felt that, in light of the fact that many players made great strides outside of that class, maybe it had more to do with the players. The latter was on a combination of Parker and Durocher, in my view. The chickens came home to roost in '04 where we were terrible, and I believe that was what paved the way for Quinn.

The '04 team was really the only team that was truly bad. '08 was disappointing based on expectations. BU was a game away from the FF 4 times in 6 years from '00 to '06 and made the tournament again in '07.

I know that everyone has their knickers in a twist because we just lost to Harvard (and because our closest rival has been playing better than BU since 2000), but this team has actually been pretty successful over the course of the past 10 years. I don't have time to see who else has had equally consistent success since then, but I don't think there are too many teams who can claim that.

And for the person who mentioned that the 1998 season was the beginning of disappointment, please first remember that the '98 team was very very good and how the graduating class in '99 was decimated by a number of things.
 
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Federal League said:
It's interesting that Amonte, McEachern and Young all became prep school head coaches this season. Certainly becoming a college assistant could be the next step from there.
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McEachern was an assistant @ NU and later @ UML. Not sure why he wasn't brought in when Quinn left. Ex-NHLers would be good in living rooms, I'd imagine.
 
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Federal League said:
..... The question with him, and also with Quinn and Sullivan, is if he'd be willing to come to BU when there's a chance of an NHL team calling in the not so distant future..
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goes both ways though... at this pace, Joe Sacco may soon be available to apply :p
 
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mookie1995 said:
goes both ways though... at this pace, Joe Sacco may soon be available to apply :p
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Who, among the following, earned an undergraduate degree at BU? Sullivan (virtually certain he did), Quinn (ditto), Hynes, Sacco, McEachern, Young, Amonte. I ask because there's exposure on the academic front if you leave college early and haven't returned to wrap things up.
 
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buoldtimer said:
Who, among the following, earned an undergraduate degree at BU? Sullivan (virtually certain he did), Quinn (ditto), Hynes, Sacco, McEachern, Young, Amonte. I ask because there's exposure on the academic front if you leave college early and haven't returned to wrap things up.
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i think in fact you NEED a degree to head coach.
 
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buoldtimer said:
Who, among the following, earned an undergraduate degree at BU? Sullivan (virtually certain he did), Quinn (ditto), Hynes, Sacco, McEachern, Young, Amonte. I ask because there's exposure on the academic front if you leave college early and haven't returned to wrap things up.
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Sullivan, Quinn and Hynes definitely did. Not sure about the rest. I'd imagine McEachern did since he's already been a college assistant. Seems like it would be odd for any college to hire even an assistant who doesn't have a degree.
 
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