Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

In 08 it was McArthur who stepped up and started to lead. Who's it going to be now?

there is no such person on this team right now... sorry.

 

[Friend_of_BU_Hockey]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

Kinda ironic that the team comes out on the ice to the video of the captains proclaiming "Desire...Determination...The Will to Win".

The baby steps the team took in the right direction with the 3rd period comebacks during their 4-game unbeaten streak have all been undone in the past two games.

I thought they had hit rock-bottom when they lost @ Merrimack to bring their record to 2-6. I was wrong.

 

[collegefan06]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

there is no such person on this team right now... sorry.

How do you definitively know that to make that statement? Why do you make those kind of unqualified comments about the players?

IMHO Jofa's post is much more on point. There is great talent here although not near as complete as last year's team and you don't have leadership that can overcome the negativity of the head coach this year as last year's team had.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

How do you definitively know that to make that statement? Why do you make those kind of unqualified comments about the players?

IMHO Jofa's post is much more on point. There is great talent here although not near as complete as last year's team and you don't have leadership that can overcome the negativity of the head coach this year as last year's team had.

because there is no player with the right mix of emotion and talent that peter brought every night. sorry. nick probably with the talent, but his shoulder isn't allowing him to get anything on the puck - i've commented the last couple games how he isn't able to get a hard shot to the net right now.

and if you want to go back farther, look at my review of the first two exhibition games... what we see out there isn't something that appeared all of a sudden. i was very concerned for this season back then and typed as much.

denial, it seems, is not just a river in egypt

(i'd love to be proven wrong, but right now i don't see it...)

 

[budlite]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

As always Parker doesnt get that its his job to get these guys winning hockey, he will throw a team/player under the bus everytime instead of saying "I'm not doing my job". What an ahole. .

This the first post I have seen that makes sense. It starts with coaching and it has been terrible. Parker's motivational tactics just make the players afraid to make mistakes. He is also inconsistent with threats and actions by making examples of certain players while letting the "stars" do whatever they want. When you treat players inconsistently you lose the respect of all players.

Furthermore, who could possibly know how any other forwards other than 12, 13, 9, 11, 10 and 27 would perform if given a real chance. I don't think it is reasonable to rate any other forwards as they play about 7 minutes a game and sit on the bench for long stretches. It seems pretty obvious to me that Parker needs to get more players in the mix throughout the game. You see with 6 that with more time he has produced more, what about the others?

As for the defense, BU has plenty of offensive ability back there but there is no desire, heart or ability in their own end. Plain and simplly.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

This the first post I have seen that makes sense. It starts with coaching and it has been terrible..

last night in the 3rd... CT got the puck just off the post to the goalies left and went around the net. there was a bit of traffic in front and the goalie was slow to move over -- except Vincent was standing on the right post, only he was under the goal line (with of course then no shot) and didn't move, so CT kinda slowed, then went around him.

it was like watching my son's mite game.

now how is coaching going to improve that??

 

[budlite]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

last night in the 3rd... CT got the puck just off the post to the goalies left and went around the net. there was a bit of traffic in front and the goalie was slow to move over -- except Vincent was standing on the right post, only he was under the goal line (with of course then no shot) and didn't move, so CT kinda slowed, then went around him.

it was like watching my son's mite game.

now how is coaching going to improve that??

My point is that Parker is going with the same kids game in and game out. Lets see what some other players can do. The "stars" are not doing it.

 

[collegefan06]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

last night in the 3rd... CT got the puck just off the post to the goalies left and went around the net. there was a bit of traffic in front and the goalie was slow to move over -- except Vincent was standing on the right post, only he was under the goal line (with of course then no shot) and didn't move, so CT kinda slowed, then went around him.

it was like watching my son's mite game.

now how is coaching going to improve that??[/QUOTE]

Mookie.....I believe you are missing the point.

Coaching at this level has many subtleties and key among those is bringing out the best in the players on a given team and nurturing them to create their own identity. This team will not be last year's team.

The negativity, inconsistency in how players are treated and resulting "fear to stand up to a legend" that JP thrives on contributes to a fatalistic approach with a young team without vocal leaders to stand up to and overcome these coaching deficincies. This then leads to lack of focus and mental breakdowns on the ice. His approach tends to lead a young team to fulfill his negative prophesies.

Players are different than in JP's early days and his negative approach will serve to bring down teams that don't have that rare internal team mental toughness that was displayed last year. That started with a unique set of circumstances put in motion when MG returned for his senior year creating two captains with distinctly different styles that complemented one another and negated the inconsistent approach of the coaching staff.

You are right that this team does not have that style among its leaders but with a more consistent and inclusive coaching approach that internal leader could emerge to help turn things around.
This remains a team with good talent. Not HE league championship or FF talent but enough to be very competitive every night. A team that will beat the teams it is capable of beating and going 50-50 with the top teams in the league and country. It is a coaches responibility to get the most out of a team and have that team ready to compete for 60 minutes. If he can't figure out how to do that, as he is saying to the press, perhaps he's not the right guy for the job any more.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

now how is coaching going to improve that??

umm. it's one thing when they are 7, another when they are 19.

if you don't see that, i don't know what else i can say

 

[collegefan06]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

umm. it's one thing when they are 7, another when they are 19.

if you don't see that, i don't know what else i can say

The difference is the 7year old doesn't know where to be but the 19 year old does. When 19 year olds consistently make mental errors on the ice they are not being prepared to compete and be focussed each and every game.

These same players were in the right places last season (sans freshmen) but are not in the right places this season. Why isn't the coaching addressing that? Have the players just decided to intentionally be out of position? Why aren't they playing focussed hockey for 60 minutes? Hockey is a reaction sport not a thinking man's sport. These kids aren't mentally playing to their potential.

I beleive that falls under the coaches style not reaching the players. I don't know why that is happening but it is.

 

[mookie1995]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

The difference is the 7year old doesn't know where to be but the 19 year old does. When 19 year olds consistently make mental errors on the ice they are not being prepared to compete and be focussed each and every game.

These same players were in the right places last season (sans freshmen) but are not in the right places this season. Why isn't the coaching addressing that? Have the players just decided to intentionally be out of position? Why aren't they playing focussed hockey for 60 minutes? Hockey is a reaction sport not a thinking man's sport. These kids aren't mentally playing to their potential.

I beleive that falls under the coaches style not reaching the players. I don't know why that is happening but it is.

at this level, much like the next, it is about buying the groceries (recruiting) and making the dinner (lines, ice time, strategy). those two are the coaches responsibilities. the players output is their part that they bring.

if parker or bavo is going to vincent after every game and saying, "hey, you take too long to get a shot off." "hey, you are standing under the goal line and getting in your linemates way." or "hey, you can't seem to hit the side of a barn when you do shoot." -- that is a misallocation of resources.

 

[collegefan06]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

at this level, much like the next, it is about buying the groceries (recruiting) and making the dinner (lines, ice time, strategy). those two are the coaches responsibilities. the players output is their part that they bring.

if parker or bavo is going to vincent after every game and saying, "hey, you take too long to get a shot off." "hey, you are standing under the goal line and getting in your linemates way." or "hey, you can't seem to hit the side of a barn when you do shoot." -- that is a misallocation of resources.

umm, hmmm, okay, if you say so.

based on that allocation of responsibility I guess we shouldn't expect to see any material changes in results this season. i suppose i way underestimated what a coaches job description includes.

I'm also guessing that AD's at places like notre dame would also differ with your allocation of responsibility between coach and player. Otherwise why would they make a coaching change? They recruit great players and Weiss certainly is a great x's and o's guy.

I see the coaches responsibilites much differently than you do mookie although I also see abject failure in lines, ice time and strategy that is one of the few things you do charge the coaches with handling.

 

[defkit]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

This team just is not as talented as last season led us to believe. We have three very talented players (Bonino, Shattenkirk, Warsofsky) and not much else. Connolly is solid but without a supporting cast, his production drops. Nicastro and Chiasson could develop into stars, but they have a ways to go. I'm sorry, but if Zach Cohen is your leading goal scorer, you have problems. This years stat sheet looks an awful like Ryan Whitney's team leading 24 point campaign as a Junior.

The Power Play is a good example. Last year, if a team pressured our d-men, we usually made them pay by finding an open man among the three down low. This year, we can't seem to do so. We just keep passing up high and taking one timers, hoping for a deflection or rebound. The one time Shattenkirk found Bonino alst night, he couldn't convert.

I do think that Parker's style is growing old quickly. With a strong presence like Matt Gilroy, they complemented each other (based on the info in Burn the Boats). But without that presence, and when it doesn't result in a turnaround, what are you left with? A team that is losing and not much to look forward to.

RPI manhandled our forwards physically last night (I can think of at least 4 times when they body checked our guy off the puck in open ice). We needed someone other than Gryba to get out there and just fly, hitting everything that moves. Periera might have filled that role had been able to dress.

 

[buoldtimer]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

RPI manhandled our forwards physically last night (I can think of at least 4 times when they body checked our guy off the puck in open ice).

Bingo! In the 1st Period alone, there were instances in which Bonino and ZCohen were knocked off the puck easily. I was very surprised by the ease with which it was done.

 

[buoldtimer]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

Recap, sidebar and grades are all up on the blog.

How about the transcripts from postgame press conferences?

 

[buoldtimer]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

...He is also inconsistent with threats and actions by making examples of certain players while letting the "stars" do whatever they want. When you treat players inconsistently you lose the respect of all players.

If you make a statement like that, shouldn't you cite examples?

 

[25 N Countin']

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

No heart, no brains, no goaltending. This season is gonna go down as completely worthless unless all three of those things take a 180.

Chris Connelly's pathetic effort backchecking on the fourth goal was one of the more frustrating moments of this season for me.

 

[terriers09]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

Game's on NESN again right now if people are feeling particularly analytic.

Or masochistic. Its almost to the good part.

 

[Carmine Scarpaglia]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

I thought they had hit rock-bottom when they lost @ Merrimack to bring their record to 2-6. I was wrong.

That's the tough part about these types of seasons. You really think it can't get worse and then it does. I had a few of those moments last year. Just gotta get through it and try not to get too upset.

 

[candycanes99]

Re: Boston University 2009-2010 Season Thread II: Still got a pulse, time for CPR

That's the tough part about these types of seasons. You really think it can't get worse and then it does. I had a few of those moments last year. Just gotta get through it and try not to get too upset.

For "elite" programs, a very good season often follows a terrible one. We just saw that happen. Maybe we'll have to endure this one to get another really good one?