FiveHoleFrenzy
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
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Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
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FiveHoleFrenzy
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
Cheer up bc faithful...I believe bc leads everyone else now with 3 commitments for 2023/2024. The most current recruit potentially looks like she committed as a 12 year old...
Cheer up bc faithful...I believe bc leads everyone else now with 3 commitments for 2023/2024. The most current recruit potentially looks like she committed as a 12 year old...
Cheer up bc faithful...I believe bc leads everyone else now with 3 commitments for 2023/2024. The most current recruit potentially looks like she committed as a 12 year old...
Doesn't everyone these days?! Gotta beat the deadline for the new recruiting rules! Lol
TonyTheTiger20
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
This does not cheer me up
Cheer up bc faithful...I believe bc leads everyone else now with 3 commitments for 2023/2024. The most current recruit potentially looks like she committed as a 12 year old...
This does not cheer me up
bluffrinkrat
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
How about this then? You'll always have Allie Thunstrom (who BC stole from Minnesota) and 1/12/08 at Ridder Arena.
How about this then? You'll always have Allie Thunstrom (who BC stole from Minnesota) and 1/12/08 at Ridder Arena.
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The question for these 8th graders should be- do you think the coach will still be there when you arrive at BC? Hard to fathom...but it’s a valid question.
Not just at BC but any school that any of these very young recruits might consider verbally committing to.
Words of wisdom for these young recruits: Never commit because you think you like the head coach or for what he or she seems to be promising you. Always commit for your love of the school itself and particularly for what it offers you academically, and commit because you want to be a part of that team. If you keep it that simple and straightforward you shouldn't go wrong.
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MAHOCKEY FAN
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
So I keep hearing how the coaches hate the pressure to commit these kids so young but not only has it continued, it keeps getting earlier (until April), seems to me they created this issue themselves by not following the spirit of the rules. Lacrosse forced it 2 years ago and that should have been a warning. I bet before April, we will see a 7th grader commit. Can't be good for anyone. I remember the posts when Katie Burt committed.
So I keep hearing how the coaches hate the pressure to commit these kids so young but not only has it continued, it keeps getting earlier (until April), seems to me they created this issue themselves by not following the spirit of the rules. Lacrosse forced it 2 years ago and that should have been a warning. I bet before April, we will see a 7th grader commit. Can't be good for anyone. I remember the posts when Katie Burt committed.
It’s not just the coaches who are at fault, but also the people (KK, KP, etc) who make money off of the recruiting showcases and camps. They’re selling the D1 dream to middle schoolers and parents are happy to hand over the checkbook.
Very astute observation. Those "money grabbers" should be ashamed of themselves but they're too shallow to feel shame for living off the dreams of others and they have no ethics so it's not a surprise either unfortunately.
Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
Why is everyone so afraid to name these people, and only use initials? I'll name them if you'd like!
Why is everyone so afraid to name these people, and only use initials? I'll name them if you'd like!
Reddington
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
I will be the contrarian. Rush Hockey and Naps are great for girls hockey. The one I never liked was Beantown because of the timing, but it has its fans. Most of the colleges are doing their own summer camps and showcases now too. The real problem I see is that you can spend as much money as you want. And if you have to pay for prep school are you really getting a scholarship when you are just fronting the money ahead of time. Most of the girls that ended up DOne were playing hockey year round. They may have played other sports too but maybe hockey went down to twice a week.
I will be the contrarian. Rush Hockey and Naps are great for girls hockey. The one I never liked was Beantown because of the timing, but it has its fans. Most of the colleges are doing their own summer camps and showcases now too. The real problem I see is that you can spend as much money as you want. And if you have to pay for prep school are you really getting a scholarship when you are just fronting the money ahead of time. Most of the girls that ended up DOne were playing hockey year round. They may have played other sports too but maybe hockey went down to twice a week.
I have to disagree. They offer services that clearly people want. No one forces parents to spend their money. Everyone has a dream. Some events are better than others for sure but they offer players the chance to be seen by scouts. Especially players who may be geographically disadvantaged and/or not on one of the top teams that get scouted frequently. I don’t understand the unethical comment either. Having interacted with them both over the years as a parent and a coach, I have not seen any evidence that they are unethical- whatever that may mean in this context.
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Disagree. KP hires D1 coaches & assistant coaches for off season camps & showcases, and don’t forget the boondoggles to Europe! That’s a fair amount of cash in their pockets- and voila! Those coaches, in turn, offer spots to her chosen ones. Very cozy set up. Not that these girls aren’t good players but everyone knows who KP is connected to (little happens in Madison without her blessing)
And now those young commits are being steered to up Selects Academy, which benefits her as well.
Parents feel a lot of pressure to get their daughters in her good graces (by registering for camps, showcases, etc) because they feel without her help they have no chance. (Exceptions would be in MN, where she has no influence)
Quiet Riot
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
Naming them doesn't matter. A lot of you are missing part of the picture. To think that all of these parents are to blame is not accurate. To blame the camps is just as unfair. Sure they make money but anytime you can get in front of the people that make decisions regarding a scholarship to play hockey you do it. Why discourage that?
Parents start saving money for college when they get home from the hospital. It's a ridiculous, out of whack expense...and not every parent will have the luck to have their kid experience. Everyone plans their kids future from day one. College is thought of 100's of times while they grow up. We know that tuitions today (70k) are nowhere near where they will be even 3 years from now. If this isn't a concern as a parent than you should have been celibate.
Again, anytime you can get your kid in front of these people you do it.
You are also forgetting the most important part of the equation...the kid. My kid knew she wanted to go to BC when she was 10. I knew nothing about college hockey, let alone the prep school scene. All I knew was that the cost of college was $50k at that time. We were lucky enough to be introduced to the Wizards program and from the contacts there (specifically Scott Fusco) onto BBN. All that time it was going to be BC. Not because of me but her.
She did contact the coach sophomore year to tell them that she is verbally committing. She would have called at 10 years old if she could have. Her parents wouldn't allow it. Trust me I know them. She didn't care who the coach was...it was BC. I know that everyone understands that a verbal commitment is not iron clad. Either party can move on. Oliver Walstrom committed as a 10-12 year old to Maine. He was from Maine and wanted to go to UMaine. He changed his mind and then to Harvard. He changed his mind again and onto BC. He grew up and understood what was best for him.
Anytime you can get your kid in front of these people do it. It could save you $280k. or $350k with the Huskies.
Why is everyone so afraid to name these people, and only use initials? I'll name them if you'd like!
Naming them doesn't matter. A lot of you are missing part of the picture. To think that all of these parents are to blame is not accurate. To blame the camps is just as unfair. Sure they make money but anytime you can get in front of the people that make decisions regarding a scholarship to play hockey you do it. Why discourage that?
Parents start saving money for college when they get home from the hospital. It's a ridiculous, out of whack expense...and not every parent will have the luck to have their kid experience. Everyone plans their kids future from day one. College is thought of 100's of times while they grow up. We know that tuitions today (70k) are nowhere near where they will be even 3 years from now. If this isn't a concern as a parent than you should have been celibate.
Again, anytime you can get your kid in front of these people you do it.
You are also forgetting the most important part of the equation...the kid. My kid knew she wanted to go to BC when she was 10. I knew nothing about college hockey, let alone the prep school scene. All I knew was that the cost of college was $50k at that time. We were lucky enough to be introduced to the Wizards program and from the contacts there (specifically Scott Fusco) onto BBN. All that time it was going to be BC. Not because of me but her.
She did contact the coach sophomore year to tell them that she is verbally committing. She would have called at 10 years old if she could have. Her parents wouldn't allow it. Trust me I know them. She didn't care who the coach was...it was BC. I know that everyone understands that a verbal commitment is not iron clad. Either party can move on. Oliver Walstrom committed as a 10-12 year old to Maine. He was from Maine and wanted to go to UMaine. He changed his mind and then to Harvard. He changed his mind again and onto BC. He grew up and understood what was best for him.
Anytime you can get your kid in front of these people do it. It could save you $280k. or $350k with the Huskies.
MAHOCKEY FAN
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
I did not blame the parents...in fact I said that the coaches who say they don't like the early commits either, could stop it. I don't care who started it, but I believe they can stop it, but since no one did the NCAA will. Your post is a bit confusing...at first you talk about your daughter: "My kid knew she wanted to go to BC", then later "her parents wouldn't allow it"....so if you are trying to "throw us off" , you messed up here...
I did not blame the parents...in fact I said that the coaches who say they don't like the early commits either, could stop it. I don't care who started it, but I believe they can stop it, but since no one did the NCAA will. Your post is a bit confusing...at first you talk about your daughter: "My kid knew she wanted to go to BC", then later "her parents wouldn't allow it"....so if you are trying to "throw us off" , you messed up here...
Quiet Riot
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
I had to pick one previous post and i picked yours. this wasn't addressed specifically to you.
"She would have called at 10 years old if she could have. Her parents wouldn't allow it."
I stated that her parents weren't going to allow her commit at 10 years old.
throw off? don't know what that means...messed up...nope
I had to pick one previous post and i picked yours. this wasn't addressed specifically to you.
"She would have called at 10 years old if she could have. Her parents wouldn't allow it."
I stated that her parents weren't going to allow her commit at 10 years old.
throw off? don't know what that means...messed up...nope
I think that’s really cool. You see that a lot with the Minnesota commits in their profiles, talking about growing up dreaming of going to that school. In that regard, I definitely understand the early verbals. I’ve also known people who just don’t like the recruiting process, just want to make a decision and move on with their life.
Fascinating topic, and lots of interesting perspectives here.
Timothy A
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
We didn't for my kids. They got jobs in high school. They worked every summer HS through college and saved money. So did I. It worked out great.
We didn't for my kids. They got jobs in high school. They worked every summer HS through college and saved money. So did I. It worked out great.
Quiet Riot
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Re: Boston College Women's Hockey 2018-2019: NO COMMERCIALS, NO MERCY
That's truly impressive. They know what a dollar is and how hard it is to get one.
Good for them...and you. That's a huge worry that not a lot of people are lucky enough to be rid of.
That's truly impressive. They know what a dollar is and how hard it is to get one.
Good for them...and you. That's a huge worry that not a lot of people are lucky enough to be rid of.