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Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!

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Ugh Jeez... do we really need to talk more about this kid that isn't even going to wear a BC sweater?

I'd rather talk about Eichel or some other kid that honors his commitments if we're talking about kids that won't be wearing a BC sweater.
 
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I think guys should go whatever route they feel more comfortable with. If they're good enough they will make it, if they aren't they won't, simple as. I think development plays a lot smaller role than people realize.


After reading through the many posts about Milano and the choice players make to play in the CHL vs. NCAA, there seems to be some wild misconceptions about the Major Jr. route.

First, its hard to quickly sort through every D1 school and CHL team but its safe to say not every school provides a great education and hockey program like BC, and not every CHL team is run like the London Knights. Some good, some bad. Both systems are a business - don't kid yourself.

A few facts to compare.

1-a) The NCAA provides hockey development packaged with an education. Some schools are highly ranked, others are not. Some programs are well funded. Others are not. Scollys are limited to 18 max at most schools. Some have fewer. Some have none. Many players are on full rides but quit a few are on partials or receive no financial support from the athletic department at the school. Funds are granted on a year to year basis and can be withdrawn at anytime. There is no obligation by the school or player until an LOI as been signed, and again its for one year at a time.

1-b) The OHL (Milano's destination) provides hockey development packaged with an education. Every player in the league gets educational money. One year played, one year paid. Some get 4 years up front, some 2. The money can be used at any school anywhere in the world. That is the players choice. Amounts received are based on your which university is closest to your home. So if you live in London, Ont. the amounts accrued would be based on U of Western Ontario. While the player is with a team all education expenses are paid in full. So, again looking at Milano, if he wanted to attend U Michigan Plymouth pays the tab. Taking two or three classes in not out of the question. Its up to the player to make that choice. The year paid for a year players amounts are given once your OHL stint is finished. The only way these funds are voided is if you sign a pro contract.

Without debating good school bad school, good hockey, bad hockey - both routes provide education and hockey development.

2-a) The NCAA does not provide any additional financial support beyond the scolly. Players and families are responsible for incidentals while the player is away at during the school year or at required off season training sessions. These training sessions are paid for by the school and represent a significant financial benefit to the players and families.

2-b) Each OHL player receives $1000 toward their off season training. Overage players receive $500 per month for incidentals and overage players (20 yrs old) receive $1000 per month.

When compared both routes provide some additional financial benefit.

Post NCAA and OHL Hockey opportunites

These points don't apply to the Milano's and Eichel's or the world. Neither would play 4 years of NCAA or 5 yrs of OHL. They'll be in the NHL a 2 years after their draft. These points applies to the many others.

3-a) Once a player graduates with his 4 year degree they many have the option of playing pro, minor pro, european hockey or heading off into the working world. What great options to have.

3-b) When a player "graduates" from the OHL at 20 they have a few options. Most choose to tap their education money and head of to finish their degree while playing CIS (Canadian University) hockey. By comparison, CIS hockey would rank with many D1 programs. Not BC, Not U Mich and not ND. More along the lines of some Atlantic D 1 programs. Others try pro, minor pro or European hockey then come back to play CIS hockey. Again, what great options to have.


Both the NCAA and CHL can get a player what he is looking for. Find the right fit and stay focused on your goals and things should work out.
 
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one year played, one year education paid?

that would be false

they give you enough to cover canadian universities and it is around $6500

good luck going to a good school down here for that. if you thinj they are tossing 55k in your acciynr, thab you deserve the ged you will get by going tgsre

good luck getting into a good american college with the high school crap ged they give you

right moce for milano, not so for 99% of others.
sad but true prob the rught move for bracco, white and hanafin
 
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one year played, one year education paid?

that would be false

they give you enough to cover canadian universities and it is around $6500

good luck going to a good school down here for that. if you thinj they are tossing 55k in your acciynr, thab you deserve the ged you will get by going tgsre

good luck getting into a good american college with the high school crap ged they give you

right moce for milano, not so for 99% of others.
sad but true prob the rught move for bracco, white and hanafin

I was trying to simplify a comparison. This isn't an attack on BC or any other school. BC is a dream for many kids.

First, the OHL does provide every player with one year tuition for every year played. This is not false information. Some players get 4 years up front. Some year by year but every player gets tuition money as part of the standard contract. $6500 at some schools would be accurate. $12,000 at others would also be accurate. It depends on where you live and what school is closest to your residence. In most case that money can be negotiated to the highest tuition number but it would never exceed $10,000 to $12,000 per year play, unless you also negotiate housing.

Yes it is based on a Canadian University tuition schedule. We can debate the ranking of schools but I think you'll find many Canadian University rankings to be better than many D1 schools. The information is easily found online. Price does not alway equal quality and the ongoing discussion we have about the cost of our US education goes on.

Setting the NCAA or OHL money aside, would I rather send my son or daughter to an American University of (insert. Don't want to pick on a school) for $50,000 a year or McMaster, McGill, U to Toronto, U British Columbia, U of Alberta, or Queens University, all highly ranked in North America, for $20,000. Going to a "school down here" for $50,000 is out of reach for many parents regardless of the value or rank of the school.

Secondly, there are over 3500 NCAA students from Canada playing for US programs, all sports. The eduction these student receive is very similar to our US standards and many classes are transferable from a high school in Canada to high school in the US. Core classes such at English, Math, Sciences, and some Social Science classes are the exact curriculum that is given here in the US. Calculus is calculus and Bio is Bio. They'll teach Canadian History as a requirement and US History as an elective. Small differences but very close. Like in the US there are great high schools and bad high schools. There are prep schools for anyone seeking that experience.

The OHL high school experience and be closely compare the the NAHL or USHL. Players living away from home, attending high school, and playing over 60 game per year. Its what the player puts into that will make him a success. Not every player comes out of the OHL with 3.9 GPA and the same can be said for any comparable Jr. program here in the states.

The fact is a player can go either route and develop and a hockey player and get a good education. The CHL path delays the post secondary education, the NCAA does is in conjunction by limiting the season to 35 to 40 games so student athletes can carry a full academic schedule.

They are different but both are good.
 
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!

Good post, well stated

I will though simply ask you 1 question

Show me 1 US player that went there and than was given money to attend an American college after they left. Just 1

I can show you hundreds who did it from NCAA and are in the NHL

Hundreds vs I challenge you to show me one. If you think these teams are throwing 250K + per year in to a trust act for colleges you are sadly mistaken

They spend more money buying east coast league spots for kids so their tuition gets nulled
 
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BC last team to release schedule as usual?
 
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#1170 post. I thought threads were shut down after 1000 posts? Being BC has its privileges :) .
 
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BC last team to release schedule as usual?

yup, as usual..........but Jerry sent out emails to season ticket holders, that was pretty cool:) . cant remember from year to year so not sure if he had done that before. :confused::o
 
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Any key take aways from the podcast with the OHL guy? Wanted to, but was unable to listen.
 
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I can't pull it up because I'm at work but the show should be on iTunes/is available to be listened to on the site.

He was a nice enough guy. There was quite a bit of dialogue, he was on for like 40 minutes I think, though I wasn't running the interview.
 
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anyone have any idea what the advance ticket sale is for the Gillette game on Saturday? I'm curious to see what the gate may be...............Maybe BC attendance expert Brian Gentry can give some insight? :p:D :)
 
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Just picked up my football tickets and renewed for hockey, and they said they still have not completed the season schedule yet. The season will begin in late October I was told.
 
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BC last team to release schedule as usual?

Jerry wants to lock in the referee assignments for the season. Joe B's been on vacation, hence the delay.
 
Re: Boston College Hockey '13-'14: Tournament Season - One Game At A Time!

Just picked up my football tickets and renewed for hockey, and they said they still have not completed the season schedule yet. The season will begin in late October I was told.
The schedule posted online at the hockey site on Tuesday, 9/2.
Schedule

The roster isn't announced yet.
 
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