Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread

[BC/HE]

Re: Boston College Eagles 2017-2108 Season Thread

Wouldn't be surprised if one of those forwards has volunteered to play Defense since 8 is a good number to carry there. 16 forwards is high but 14 is not so there may only be 1 more to leave if one goes on D and not necessarily it would be forced as sometimes players leave on their own.

 

[J.D.]

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Ya if anyone leaves now it's to pursue a chance for more ice time, etc. Roster is set. They waited as long as they could to announce because they were figuring out the last spot on the team. I'm not really sure why you would keep Merulla over Booth. Seems like a head scratcher but Booth wasn't going to see the ice regardless.

 

[TheRevengeance]

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Imagine living in a universe where a list contains nothing but kids who were either previously on the roster and are no longer on said roster or who were committed to come in this fall and instead ended up joining lesser programs over the summer, and saying this list isn't a list of kids who were forced out. Talk about fake news.

Everybody overcommits these days, there's no reason to act like you have no idea about it. When you have an entire graduating class that just plain doesn't exist, your options are either to bring in extra players immediately to fill the hole and get rid of some of them in a couple of years to even the numbers back out, or to run a thin roster for a couple of years until that missing class gets phased out. Your team chose option A. Everybody knows they chose option A. This isn't a secret. Just because Carreau was mentioned on twitter a few months ago or someone else actually happened during last season doesn't suddenly make them not exist, they're still a part of what happened. Nobody said "BC cut six kids on Today, the 21st day of September 2018."

 

[sterlippo1]

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It's usually great fun(?) when the schedules come out and we find that we end our regular season with back to back games with a peaking, fined tuned Eagle squad
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BC has not done that trick since 2012, or the last time we won a real trophy

 

[sterlippo1]

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As always, you want to consider your source! Half of these kids never even appeared on a roster. Given that Shero was off the roster a while ago, he's not even half right. So basically, your typical BU fanboy standards.

yeah, geez, with that spin talent he can easily get a job in the Bay Area as a newscaster

 

[J.D.]

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Imagine living in a universe where "everybody overcommits" but people feign outrage when it involves BC. When a kid like Martan who I don't think I ever heard one peep about (same for Monty Graham) commits to a program like Canisius a year ago, let's shake our fists in anger!!! Clearly he should be on the 2018-2019 BC roster even if it means he never plays in a single game. That would be good for him.

Nobody knows what goes on in these conversations when kids verbally commit to a school. Everyone just likes to pretend like they have all the facts. Every situation is different. If you look at Heisenberg's spreadsheet, you'll see cross outs all over the place for just about every school. I'm sure there a variety of reasons as to why that is. That's the current landscape of college hockey and it's certainly not unique to BC. It's disingenuous to pretend it is.

 

[CollegeHockeyRinkReport]

Imagine living in a universe where "everybody overcommits" but people feign outrage when it involves BC. When a kid like Martan who I don't think I ever heard one peep about (same for Monty Graham) commits to a program like Canisius a year ago, let's shake our fists in anger!!! Clearly he should be on the 2018-2019 BC roster even if it means he never plays in a single game. That would be good for him.

Nobody knows what goes on in these conversations when kids verbally commit to a school. Everyone just likes to pretend like they have all the facts. Every situation is different. If you look at Heisenberg's spreadsheet, you'll see cross outs all over the place for just about every school. I'm sure there a variety of reasons as to why that is. That's the current landscape of college hockey and it's certainly not unique to BC. It's disingenuous to pretend it is.

As someone who spends a lot of time watching prep, midget and junior hockey, I’m sick of the outrage as well. Even everyday students are held to standards once admitted to school. Acceptance letters tell students they must maintain a certain GPA, etc. Kids on academic scholarships have to maintain a certain GPA. What’s the difference? There is none except average students aren’t recognizable in media, school athletic department bios, etc.

 

[BCeagle]

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This was the trap game I feared.

Addazio is being handed his first season embarrassment by Purdue.

Oh well back to the drawing board this week.

 

[J.D.]

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I thought Purdue would win. They aren't as bad as the 0-3 looked, were due for a breakthrough after losing three home games by a combined 8 points. Total debacle from BC though. Didn't expect a blowout.

 

[BCeagle]

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I thought Purdue would win. They aren't as bad as the 0-3 looked, were due for a breakthrough after losing three home games by a combined 8 points. Total debacle from BC though. Didn't expect a blowout.

I never under estimate a big 10 team but their scores with Missouri was close.

BC was totally awful.

Penalties, mistackling, bad play calling, bad punting, turnovers, etc. etc.

They relied on Dillon too much and Purdue was ready and waiting. They made no adjustments and the kicker missed another PAT at the end of the game.

Total team effort laying the big egg and give credit to the Boilermakers for playing a great game vs BC.

 

[TheRevengeance]

Acceptance letters tell students they must maintain a certain GPA, etc. Kids on academic scholarships have to maintain a certain GPA. What’s the difference? There is none except average students aren’t recognizable in media, school athletic department bios, etc.

Do schools generally accept students and/or offer them academic scholarships, have the students accept, then come back in the spring/summer and tell them that they are no longer welcome because the school accepted too many students? Especially as the school shuffles to make room for a smarter student that's suddenly interested (Wahlstrom)?

Like I said, everybody does it (lord knows Northeastern has a couple of fun years coming up). It isn't like it's just BC that people complain about online. Vermont has been rightfully lambasted on a yearly basis for it for a few years running now. UMass was too, although that came with the caveat of a new coach and staff. Michigan is the new hot team to complain about under Pearson. NU's day of reckoning is fast approaching. But just because it's the hot new recruiting method doesn't mean we have to decide it's okay.

 

[J.D.]

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If coaches weren't allowed to recruit kids until a reasonable age, that would help.

 

[mookie1995]

If coaches weren't allowed to recruit kids until a reasonable age, that would help.

They can’t help,it having to recruit against not only other schools but professional leagues as well. Need to get interest early

 

[Nick Papagiorgio]

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Imagine living in a universe where a list contains nothing but kids who were either previously on the roster and are no longer on said roster or who were committed to come in this fall and instead ended up joining lesser programs over the summer, and saying this list isn't a list of kids who were forced out. Talk about fake news.

Everybody overcommits these days, there's no reason to act like you have no idea about it. When you have an entire graduating class that just plain doesn't exist, your options are either to bring in extra players immediately to fill the hole and get rid of some of them in a couple of years to even the numbers back out, or to run a thin roster for a couple of years until that missing class gets phased out. Your team chose option A. Everybody knows they chose option A. This isn't a secret. Just because Carreau was mentioned on twitter a few months ago or someone else actually happened during last season doesn't suddenly make them not exist, they're still a part of what happened. Nobody said "BC cut six kids on Today, the 21st day of September 2018."

My God you're stupid.

 

[bothman]

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They can’t help,it having to recruit against not only other schools but professional leagues as well. Need to get interest early

Do you really think BC or BU recruiting would suffer if they had to wait until a kid was 16 to talk to him? This whole concept of having to talk to kids when they are 13 or 14, much less garnering a commitment, is a farce.

If kids knew the above rule existed (no talk until 16), the amount of losses to MJ would be minimal and I would argue, schools would be better off because they would have much more sound recruits (as opposed to today when they have to deal with the volatility of kids committing early to them and switching to MJ.....because the commitment was hollow to begin - how could it be characterized any other way when it comes from a 14 year old???).

Anyone who puts any stock in a commit for someone coming in 2022 is delusional! But hey, it must be really cool for Charlie Leddy and Devin Kaplan to be able to wear their BC & BU gear to high school or middle school??!!

 

[J.D.]

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The whole thing has gotten out of control. Programs trying to one up each other and find the next great prospect which keeps pushing these verbal commitments to younger ages. Parents who think their son needs to commit at an early age in order to secure a scholarship 5 years down the line. And people pretend to be upset when a kid doesn't develop like everyone thought they would and programs then find better options. Or the unthinkable happens...a teenager ends up changing his mind and sees a better option than the school they committed to! Because teenagers never change their mind and know at a young age exactly what they want to do.

If the kid is good at hockey, someone will find him. Stop pressuring kids to commit, let them mature and enjoy playing hockey. Somehow college hockey survived without this recent phenomenon for years. Verbal commitments mean nothing to me...from both ends. From the player's perspective and from the program's perspective. If a player changes his mind on you, that's the risk you take. And if parents are telling their kid once they commit at age 14 that they have nothing to worry about and that they will 100% be attending the school they committed to...sorry, that's naive. Everyone involved should understand this by now. There are no surprises with this stuff. Is it a great system? Hell no. But until an age restriction is implemented it's the system we have.

 

[mookie1995]

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Do you really think BC or BU recruiting would suffer if they had to wait until a kid was 16 to talk to him? This whole concept of having to talk to kids when they are 13 or 14, much less garnering a commitment, is a farce.

If kids knew the above rule existed (no talk until 16), the amount of losses to MJ would be minimal and I would argue, schools would be better off because they would have much more sound recruits (as opposed to today when they have to deal with the volatility of kids committing early to them and switching to MJ.....because the commitment was hollow to begin - how could it be characterized any other way when it comes from a 14 year old???).

Anyone who puts any stock in a commit for someone coming in 2022 is delusional! But hey, it must be really cool for Charlie Leddy and Devin Kaplan to be able to wear their BC & BU gear to high school or middle school??!!

you are certainly not wrong.... but if you want to compete for that high end talent (with mj options) you have to be talking to them. and if one kid is being talked to, another who thinks he may be just as good is going to want attention as well. otherwise some other program will.

 

[J.D.]

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Was just grazing the schedule. While it's not a surprise, still strange only having two non conference home games. One being Bentley. The other, your marquee non conference game of the year...the home opener...on a Thursday night. Woof.

Also, a very strange end to the Hockey East regular season.You have BC playing at PC on a Thursday night and then those teams are done. Three games on that Friday night and then just one game Saturday night, BU at Maine. Merrimack isn't involved in the final weekend at all. They finish the previous Saturday night. I know part of the problem is having an odd number of teams but last year there were 4 games that Friday night and 5 that Saturday night. Is the league schedule simply not up to date on the Hockey East site? Thought all schedules were out now.

 

[TheRevengeance]

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That last weekend is a new weekend created by eliminating the first round of the conference tournament. No games were originally scheduled there, teams basically moved matchups there as they saw convenient. Last year's "last weekend" you're comparing to is the March 2 weekend, which is also a little sparse on games, but less so.

 

[J.D.]

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But the league schedule would have been finalized after the news about the playoff format changes, no? Just seems like an odd way to end the regular season.