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Boston College '12-'13 Part III: Save us Hobey-John Gaudreaubey; you're our only hope

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J.D. said:
http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/news/story?id=6197210

But to get a true sense of Logue's value to the program, consider BC head coach Jerry York's assessment. "He's almost like a quarterback coach," York says.

With one important distinction. While most D-I football programs employ between 10 and 11 paid coaches -- seemingly a coach for every position -- hockey programs have a head coach and two paid assistants. And rarely is one of those positions filled by the goalie coach. The job, frankly, is a labor of love.....
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Awesome job finding this man, I was just trying to find a rule on this anywhere and couldn't. Do we know if Ayers is going to be paid or not?If he is going to be paid, would one of the 3 other candidates be willing to come in as a volunteer assistant.
 
sigx15 said:
Awesome job finding this man, I was just trying to find a rule on this anywhere and couldn't. Do we know if Ayers is going to be paid or not?If he is going to be paid, would one of the 3 other candidates be willing to come in as a volunteer assistant.
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Only allowed two paid coaches on staff and one volunteer or grad assistant. Logue was the volunteer on staff. The reason they hired ayers, who will be getting paid, is because it hits two birds with one stone...yes, this means ayers beat out eaves, mattau, and guiliano for the job---unless one of those guys wants to work for free. I hear cav is hiring mattau over at uconn along with brown's mike souza. Did cav win the first recruiting battle?
 
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If york and cav both wanted mottau, I highly doubt mottau would go to uconn. Ayers wasn't an out of nowhere choice either, he was mentioned as a candidate like the other guys.

If bc does add another coach, have to believe it will be a well off guy around 55-60. Can't see it beeing eaves or giuliano now.
 
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Did cav win the first recruiting battle?
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It appears so.

As much as people don't want to admit this, and contrary to popular Hoky belief, BC hockey is going to miss Coach Cav's recruiting and salesmanship big time. The guy will talk to anyone, he is as genuine as they come, he has won multiple NCAA championships and been in the business 20 years. Brownie is a great guy and an even better hockey player, but he is not Cav and he does not possess the same personality traits that makes Cav such a successful recruiter.

Lastly, Loguey and Cav are tight, Logue's decision is his own, but I find it hard to believe that if Cav were still on the other end of the head set, he would be calling it quits.

But, per Hoky, a trained monkey could do their jobs, so it doesn't matter.
 
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Kenny, I'm not following you. What recruiting battle did Cav win?
 
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Interesting read, but did Milner lead BC to two national titles? I thought Muse played in 2010, no?
 
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This should be a good one!
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Really? Should be a good one?

Call me crazy, but I'd rather have Mike Mottau in the program than this Ayers guy. If Cav did get Mottau, that's a win. Conspiracy theorists will tell you Brownie was pushing for Ayers because he is not an alum. Hence less competition when JY leaves. Hope that is not true. I just think Mottau or any one of those BC candidates would have been a better 2nd asst choice.

I just fear that with Logue and Cavanaugh gone, there's an emotional fire gone with them.
 
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Kenny said:
Really? Should be a good one?

Call me crazy, but I'd rather have Mike Mottau in the program than this Ayers guy. If Cav did get Mottau, that's a win. Conspiracy theorists will tell you Brownie was pushing for Ayers because he is not an alum. Hence less competition when JY leaves. Hope that is not true. I just think Mottau or any one of those BC candidates would have been a better 2nd asst choice.

I just fear that with Logue and Cavanaugh gone, there's an emotional fire gone with them.
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Yes. It clearly is obvious that you guys are now going to the dumpsters. Chit, you'all be lucky to win 10 games next season...:D Hiring touchdown Mikey and all...who has the beachball picture?
 
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Kenny, where are you getting your info from? Anyway, if mottau *chose* uconn over bc then yes, that's a recruiting win for cav. There is zero indication that that is what happened. It's funny that you're down in the dumps over ayers when we all know cav isn't a bc
grad either and he did just fine. Calling him "this ayers guy" is completely unfair. You should know who he is just from his playing days alone, nevermind why he was actually hired--that being his work with the us national development program.
 
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The coaching staff wasn't going to remain intact forever. Change was inevitable. It's not like cav and logue were fired.
 
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Greg Brown and Mike Ayers may not have the personality of Mike Cavanaugh. But BC has so many recruits already lined up, that Brown and Ayers just have to make sure these kids stay on course and show up at the Heights. (At least, at the beginning.)
 
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Do you know that Ayers DOES NOT have such a personality, or just speculating? I don't know Mike Cavanaugh from a Black Bear, but Mike Ayers has a very engaging personality.
 
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Just a thought...

But if mottau is looking to break into college coaching, wouldn't the chance to make an immediate splash and get recognized be building up uconn from basically scratch?!? Rather than sliding into the greatest program of the last decade?!?

All one can do at bc to get noticed now is f up.
 
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All things being equal, let's say both York and Cav wanted Mottau (we still have no idea if this is the case)...I just can't see Mottau saying no to York and his alma mater so he can go to UConn of all places. You can't assume that success at UConn is a sure thing. So if Mottau really wanted to go to UConn and they can't get past mediocrity in Hockey East...then what?

Compare that to someone like Ayers. Most expect BC to be good the next few years at the very least. If that's the case, Ayers will be considered a part of that and will undoubtedly be a candidate to replace Umile. So what's the wiser career move? It's a no brainer to me.
 
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All things being equal, let's say both York and Cav wanted Mottau (we still have no idea if this is the case)...I just can't see Mottau saying no to York and his alma mater so he can go to UConn of all places. You can't assume that success at UConn is a sure thing. So if Mottau really wanted to go to UConn and they can't get past mediocrity in Hockey East...then what?

Compare that to someone like Ayers. Most expect BC to be good the next few years at the very least. If that's the case, Ayers will be considered a part of that and will undoubtedly be a candidate to replace Umile. So what's the wiser career move? It's a no brainer to me.
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I think you answered your own question. People expect BC to be good, if they aren't Mottau surely would get some blame. With UConn he doesn't have to worry about that.
 
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And you honestly think that would be enough for a bc alum/hobey winner to say no to york and his alma mater? Just doesn't add up to me. Using that logic, every assistant coach would rather go to uconn. You have a better chance of succeeding at bc than uconn and having success is what leads to bigger opportunities.
 
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And you honestly think that would be enough for a bc alum/hobey winner to say no to york and his alma mater? Just doesn't add up to me. Using that logic, every assistant coach would rather go to uconn. You have a better chance of succeeding at bc than uconn and having success is what leads to bigger opportunities.
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Absolutely. He is trying to get his career off the ground and I'm sure the last thing he wants to do is fail in his first job. Look at what's happened with Dan Kerluke, I honestly don't think he's done that bad of job and he gets vilified by all the Maine fans. I think exceeding expectations will lead to more opportunities than anything else. Not meeting expectations won't get you very far, and they would be pretty high if he were to go to BC. Also, he graduated 13 years ago so maybe the connection isn't quite as strong as it once was.
 
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