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Boston College '12-'13 Part III: Save us Hobey-John Gaudreaubey; you're our only hope

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Well folks... another failed attempt to defend the title. Not that this is shocking.

Time to get rid of the pretenders on this team. I hope these guys coming in have either speed/skill or size.

I do think Demko will be fine. This guy has been playing against D1 competition and has been killing it. Shouldn't be a huge adjustment for him... I hope. I'd like to see Billett get some time and force a competition between the two.

Need to build this team from the net out again.
 
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Would be nice to see someone on this team with an edge as well both up front and on the blue line.

But as you said, will be nice to have competition for some minutes.
 
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claver2010 said:
Would be nice to see someone on this team with an edge as well both up front and on the blue line.
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I agree completely with this. Or a handful of guys that know how to check. This team was the least physical Eagle team I have seen in many, many years.
 
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claver2010 said:
Would be nice to see someone on this team with an edge as well both up front and on the blue line.

But as you said, will be nice to have competition for some minutes.
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I agree as BC was missing the speed and size of a Kreider to help out small forwards like JG. I think with the freshmen coming in the fall, I think their speed and size improves with what I see.

As far as playing with an edge, MacLeod is tall enough but I don't see that part of the game in him to take that role. I don't think he plays with an edge. Matheson could be and should be it but you can't take too many penalties that can hurt the team. Certainly Silk has the size. Some of the freshmen will have to take on that role as some of the forwards are bigger than some of the present skaters. Certainly Arnold could play with more of an edge and he is the likely Captain for next season.
 
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What is the possibility of Arnold leaving?- seems most elite players leave after junior year.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Well folks... another failed attempt to defend the title. Not that this is shocking.

Time to get rid of the pretenders on this team. I hope these guys coming in have either speed/skill or size.

I do think Demko will be fine. This guy has been playing against D1 competition and has been killing it. Shouldn't be a huge adjustment for him... I hope. I'd like to see Billett get some time and force a competition between the two.

Need to build this team from the net out again.
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I'm gonna be captain obvious here, but it's tough to repeat. More than that, they haven't even won a single tourney game any year following a national title. Billet has been a good little "soldier" over two years and I do think he'll get every opportunity to earn time. I think this is similar to when Schneider came in. They rotated guys and Schneider eventually won them over (and did have an outstanding HE tourney before the forgettable weekend in Worcester).
 
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Mook, enjoy the talent vacuum at the Height while you can, as there's a few guys by the name of Ryan Fitzgerald, Cangelosi, McCoshen, Calnan, Santini, Richardson, Demko, etc, etc that will be giving us a nice little boost next year. It won't get any easier for the competition in the years to come with future stars like Hanafin, Casey Fitzgerald, Colin White, Tanner Macmaster, Zach Sanford & JD Dudek in the pipeline.
 
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mookie1995 said:
ergo, no elite players :D
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Not all that many juniors to think of, Arnold, Hayes, MacLeod, and Brown. They'll have to depend on lot their success on the freshmen coming in to replace the departed talent of Mullane and Whitney and on D Wey and Alber and provide more depth in the forward positions.

Demko is going to have to anchor the defense and the D should be improved with some of the D talent coming in. MacLeod, Matheson, Doherty, Santini, Savage, and McCoshen.

They'll miss Mullane's leadership but Arnold will have to fill that void next year.

I'm surprised Nieto left. I remember he had only 6 goals at one point and then he must have turned it on in the 2nd half to get close to 20 goals.
 
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Has BC gotten bigger but slower and less skilled. I remember the protype BC team as having 7-8 forward who were under 5'10" and buzzing around the ice. One team - one system. Here are a few thoughts about this year:

1. I never thought that Alber made much of a difference to this team. His going out with an injury proved I was wrong.

2. With all the juniors said to be coming back, is that an indication of a lack of high end talent in that group?

3. The Hayes defecation incident and suspension took more of a toll on this team than his injury.

4. John Muse - where are you?; I apologize for what I said.

5. Steve Whitney was the best all around player on this team - forget about the last game - he will be missed.

6. Jerry looks tired - with or without the pirate look - I think some off ice issues with this team this season has him jealous of Jack Parker.

Enjoy the off season - still the best game played and watched by the best people.

DM
 
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Gaudreau-Fitzgerald-Cangelosi
Hayes-Arnold-Gilmour
Richardson-Straight-Calnan
Smith-Brown-Linell/Silk

As far as Spiro, Linell/Silk, McGlynn, Sit and McMullen-- practice hard and you may get your chance. I don't see McGlynn coming this fall. He has not been playing much lately; has not produced in the USHL; and is very young.

Maybe Ian McCoshen can be the enforcer BC needs. Brooks Orpik, Andrew Alberts, Nick Petrecki and (to an extent) Philip Samuelsson all did it from Day 1.
 
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Boston22 said:
Gaudreau-Fitzgerald-Cangelosi
Hayes-Arnold-Gilmour
Richardson-Straight-Calnan
Smith-Brown-Linell/Silk

As far as Spiro, Linell/Silk, McGlynn, Sit and McMullen-- practice hard and you may get your chance. I don't see McGlynn coming this fall. He has not been playing much lately; has not produced in the USHL; and is very young.

Maybe Ian McCoshen can be the enforcer BC needs. Brooks Orpik, Andrew Alberts, Nick Petrecki and (to an extent) Philip Samuelsson all did it from Day 1.
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Need an infusion of talent/size/new blood.

For that reason, I say put Spiro (first one off the bench), Straight, Linell, Sit, McMullen all in the stands until someone gets hurt or shows that there needs to be a change made (in other words, playing just like the last 4 guys I mentioned). Maybe Mcglynn pushes off a year and gives one of these guys a break. I just can't put a fairly good sized kid that proved to be capable of not getting pushed around on the bench (Silk). He even had some good games on the 2nd line in the middle of the season... ok now bluehorseshoe can complain that Linell is a million miles better than Silk.

Defense will also be interesting. I can't come up with any scenario in which Sullivan gets in unless we see two injured guys but who knows how good these incoming guys are.

I think this team not only needs to hit the refresh button but also the coaching staff. Hope they know what they are doing next season! Because short of putting Gaudreau in at goaltender the lineup decisions didn't work out too well.

ps - I'd also add Mike Brennan as a player for BC that was not afraid to scramble someone's brains if they got too close to the crease for his liking. Which reminds me, can they please insist these guys play physical and let them hit somebody.
 
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Brown gets the C
Arnold & MacLeod get As

Have to say I'm surprised, though recently the team has done better when the captain isn't one of the top skilled players -maybe a dividing the power type deal?

As for above, looking for Silk to take that next step. Another year removed from the surgery and like you said he looked pretty good when he was playing with more skilled players (I guess you can say that about anyone but I didn't see the jump in Straight or Linell's game).

PS: Agreed on the pleading to hit someone, especially on the blueline. Brennan always made the hit along the boards when 1 on 1 with a F.


I know it's not MacLeod's but JFC after seeing teams rough up 13 would be nice if someone could return the favor.
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
ps - I'd also add Mike Brennan as a player for BC that was not afraid to scramble someone's brains if they got too close to the crease for his liking. Which reminds me, can they please insist these guys play physical and let them hit somebody.
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Sounds like you're looking for a Diamond-type defenseman. ;)
 
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Nick Papagiorgio said:
Need an infusion of talent/size/new blood.

For that reason, I say put Spiro (first one off the bench), Straight, Linell, Sit, McMullen all in the stands until someone gets hurt or shows that there needs to be a change made (in other words, playing just like the last 4 guys I mentioned). Maybe Mcglynn pushes off a year and gives one of these guys a break. I just can't put a fairly good sized kid that proved to be capable of not getting pushed around on the bench (Silk). He even had some good games on the 2nd line in the middle of the season... ok now bluehorseshoe can complain that Linell is a million miles better than Silk.

Defense will also be interesting. I can't come up with any scenario in which Sullivan gets in unless we see two injured guys but who knows how good these incoming guys are.

I think this team not only needs to hit the refresh button but also the coaching staff. Hope they know what they are doing next season! Because short of putting Gaudreau in at goaltender the lineup decisions didn't work out too well.

ps - I'd also add Mike Brennan as a player for BC that was not afraid to scramble someone's brains if they got too close to the crease for his liking. Which reminds me, can they please insist these guys play physical and let them hit somebody.
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I agree with you about Silk. He did more with top forwards than Straight or Linell did. Probably deserving of a spot in the line-up. Sitting Straight might set a fire under him. You're also right about Mike Brennan-- not allowing nonsense to take place, while he's on the ice.

Can't wait to see a line of Gaudreau, Fitzgerald and Cangelosi. As someone mentioned a few weeks back, those two freshmen have the potential to be a Ben Eaves-Tony Voce duo.
 
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Boston22 said:
Gaudreau-Fitzgerald-Cangelosi
Hayes-Arnold-Gilmour
Richardson-Straight-Calnan
Smith-Brown-Linell/Silk

As far as Spiro, Linell/Silk, McGlynn, Sit and McMullen-- practice hard and you may get your chance. I don't see McGlynn coming this fall. He has not been playing much lately; has not produced in the USHL; and is very young.

Maybe Ian McCoshen can be the enforcer BC needs. Brooks Orpik, Andrew Alberts, Nick Petrecki and (to an extent) Philip Samuelsson all did it from Day 1.
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I don't see the BC staff sitting five players in the stands. Something will need to give - players getting pushed off or others transferring. I think Silk will play a bigger roll now that he is healthy and has a year under his belt. Straight seems to be falling off. Maybe a fresh start next season will bring him back to form. Brown will play up the roster 2 or 3rd line. The kid has earned it and can contribute. I just hope York and staff can manage the expectations of the incoming class. High end guys have been recruited and high end guys want to play.

Correct on McGlynn. No point in rushing a 95 when you have things jammed up. He can play and is tough. I visited the Fall Classic and the NHL Prospect game and he was fantastic. Sioux City seems to be turing things around and this should help. A mid-west NHL scout told me McGlynn was injured and missed several weeks. This could explain why he has not been rostered.
 
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With Brown getting the "C", I can't see him sitting, nor can I see Silk, Arnold, Gaudreau, Hayes, Straight or Linell in the stands. That leaves 5 spots for the rest of the returning players and recruits. Have to figure Cangelosi, Fitzgerald and Calnan will be suiting up. Now we are down to 2 spots. A year ago, I would have penciled in Richardson, but he didn't really light the BCHL on fire this year, so not so sure. Gilmour has the potential to be a poor man's Jimi Hayes, but am just not sure how long it will take him to adjust. McGlyn clearly needs more time and Gadreau isnt going to be a regular next year if ever. Spiro is a gamer but just doesn't have a ceiling anywhere near the incoming recruits. Personally, I would start all 5 of the big name freshmen as at least they have the potential to be very good players.
 
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I'm certainly excited about the incoming class, but I find it hard to believe that guys who were in the lineup for two years will simply disappear or be banished to the stands. I'm not an expert, so maybe I'm wrong. But Sit played in 77 games over two years. They obviously see some value in him. He's not gonna go from playing that many games to riding the pine all next year. Not saying that I see why he's in the lineup every night, but they have their reasons. Same thing with Straight. I know a lot of people have gotten on him, but he put up five more points in 10 fewer games. He's gonna play IMO.

As talented as the incoming group is, chances are that it's one of them who become the odd man out at least at the beginning of the year. I just don't see them starting with a lineup that has five freshmen forwards in it. I think it's more likely to be three than it is five. This is gonna be a very interesting offseason IMO.
 
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I think the only reason they played Sit was because there was nobody else behind him that was any better. Gilmour put up good numbers in his first year in the USHL, has good size and is a 4th rd draft pick. Richardson has played on all those those National teams and at the end of the day, is still considered a high end recruit that all the big schools were interested in. In addition, both are a bit more seasoned in that they'll be 19 years old. Sit obviously has the two years of experience on his side, but he certainly doesn't have anywhere near the upside that those other two have.
 
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