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Bill Beaney's successor

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Steve Moffat at Castleton would be the perfect coach for the Panthers. All-American guy, smooth. Hamilton blew it not hiring him when they had the chance. The holdover players he inherited are not his type of people thus the mediocre results. If he stays at Castleton they'll be challenging soon. Good hockey man.
 
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CARDS_rule_the_Burgh said:
Also, for the vast majority of schools, "Assistant Professor" is, by definition, a tenure-track position. It would be different if you said "Adjunct Professor". And most institutions give an Assistant Professor 6-8 years to earn tenure and become an "Associate Professor" or THEY FIRE THEM. Kangas has been around for 25 years...
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More knee slapping -- it you do not get tenure after 7 years (and the related promotion to associate professor), you're not getting tenure. Williams could decide not to renew Kangas's current contract if it so desires . . .
 
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d3follower said:
More knee slapping -- it you do not get tenure after 7 years (and the related promotion to associate professor), you're not getting tenure. Williams could decide not to renew Kangas's current contract expires if it so desires . . .
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You are pushing semantics - he has a tenure track position.
 
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Golden007 said:
No coach anywhere has tenure! The degree to which they eff up has correlation to tolerance, but there is always a low that will effect change.
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According to this, there might be some disagreement. Or are they referring to tenured professors that are also coaching?

Never mind. I just got a little smarter. noun vs. verb.
 
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Golden007 said:
No coach anywhere has tenure! The degree to which they eff up has correlation to tolerance, but there is always a low that will effect change.
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But, professors DO, and yes, it is true that not all coaches are also tenure/tenure track professors.
 
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norm1909 said:
But, professors DO, and yes, it is true that not all coaches are also tenure/tenure track professors.
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Why don't you produce the name of a D3 hockey coach who actually has tenure since you are so good at the Internet thing and so certain that you are right. .
 
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d3follower said:
Why don't you produce the name of a D3 hockey coach who actually has tenure since you are so good at the Internet thing and so certain that you are right. .
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You can use the State University of New York Policies of the Board of Trustees as an example. Start with Article XI - Title C (starts on page 28), it covers both academic & professional full time employees (see pages 51 & 52 for athletic titles as they relate to Article XI). Most, if not all SUNY head coaches are Full-Time employees.
 
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I wonder if Mark Morris formerly of Clarkson who is now with the Florida Panthers will throw his name in the hat.
 
norm1909 said:
You can use the State University of New York Policies of the Board of Trustees as an example. Start with Article XI - Title C (starts on page 28), it covers both academic & professional full time employees (see pages 51 & 52 for athletic titles as they relate to Article XI). Most, if not all SUNY head coaches are Full-Time employees.
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And it expressly states that coaches are not eligible for permanent employment (aka tenure) but are eligible only for employment of limited terms.
 
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norm1909 said:
You are pushing semantics - he has a tenure track position.
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I am not familiar with the situation at the NESCAC schools, but I do know that at schools where coaches are given faculty status they are not tenured as coaches, but rather tenured as faculty members.

They don't have a right to their coaching position, but only as a member of the faculty in the department they are assigned to.
 
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NUProf said:
I am not familiar with the situation at the NESCAC schools, but I do know that at schools where coaches are given faculty status they are not tenured as coaches, but rather tenured as faculty members.

They don't have a right to their coaching position, but only as a member of the faculty in the department they are assigned to.
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Some NESCAC schools give coaches the title of "professor" but it is only a title and does not come with tenure rights . .
 
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Bill-R- said:
How about Kevin Houle? :eek:
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Unless something has changed, I think his roots are pretty firmly planted in here Plattsburgh. His wife is a school teacher. For her to leave now, I believe she'd lose all the seniority she's garnered at her current position. I don't think him moving to Middlebury is a big enough move to trump the importance of her tenure. That's just a guess and I could be complete wrong about that.

My feeling is that the only job he'd leave the Plattsburgh women's team for is the Plattsburgh men's team. The women's game is competitive enough (I think the occasional games with Elmira, Middlebury, Norwich, etc. trump the really bad games he has to help the women navigate...)
 
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gfan said:
Nichols's Swallow also played 2 years at Dartmouth before transferring to U of Maine so he has
the 'Middlebury' required smarts. Also was an assistant at Neumann.
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Been some time since there was a posting on this thread. Anything new to report?
 
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