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Bill Beaney's successor

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You've proven my point. He's got an easy gig (as do all the top DIII women's teams - Norwich, Plattsburgh, Elmira). He must be bored basically going through the motions every year on his way to the NCAA tournament. Switching over makes perfect sense because getting the men's program back to the top would be a great challenge for a proven top level coach, or are you saying he's lazy and/or afraid of the challenge?! Doesn't he think he could succeed? He's got a pretty big ego so I would think he probably believes he could. What better salesperson could there be for Middlebury? Or will his ego keep him safe staying in his current gig? After all if he fails to get the men's program back to elite status that could tarnish his coaching reputation and he's probably afraid of that possibility.

He's saying that a lateral-at-best move, within the same school, for presumably around the same pay, to a position with less job security is idiotic. Ego obviously has nothing to do with it - quite the opposite, in fact. "The challenge" has nothing on continuing to receive a steady paycheck in the town where he and his family have lived for nearly 30 years.
 
He's saying that a lateral-at-best move, within the same school, for presumably around the same pay, to a position with less job security is idiotic. Ego obviously has nothing to do with it - quite the opposite, in fact. "The challenge" has nothing on continuing to receive a steady paycheck in the town where he and his family have lived for nearly 30 years.

don't think that job security is really a concern for NESCAC men's hockey coaches. Trying to remember when one was last canned and cannot remember even one. And those who get those jobs hang onto them for decades (Meagher, Arena, Kangas and previously Beaney and Dunham)
 
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don't think that job security is really a concern for NESCAC men's hockey coaches. Trying to remember when one was last canned and cannot remember even one. And those who get those jobs hang onto them for decades (Meagher, Arena, Kangas and previously Beaney and Dunham)

Nor is it in many other places around DIII, but it does happen, and it doesn't seem all that prudent to invite the possibility for no reason beyond a nebulous feeling of accomplishment that can just as easily be satisfied by national championships at his current position (or not, but that's purely speculative no matter which way you slice it).
 
don't think that job security is really a concern for NESCAC men's hockey coaches. Trying to remember when one was last canned and cannot remember even one. And those who get those jobs hang onto them for decades (Meagher, Arena, Kangas and previously Beaney and Dunham)

Tenure.
 
Nor is it in many other places around DIII, but it does happen, and it doesn't seem all that prudent to invite the possibility for no reason beyond a nebulous feeling of accomplishment that can just as easily be satisfied by national championships at his current position (or not, but that's purely speculative no matter which way you slice it).

You might as well kill yourself now if you are that scared of life. . .
 
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You might as well kill yourself now if you are that scared of life. . .

Fear and pragmatism are very different things, and the pragmatic option has just as much to offer as the "scary" one in this case.
 
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Coaches are not tenured at NESCAC schools although some are granted quasi-faculty status as professors of PE and granted long-term contracts (like 5 years) but do not have lifetime guarantees of employment.
 
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Coaches are not tenured at NESCAC schools although some are granted quasi-faculty status as professors of PE and granted long-term contracts (like 5 years) but do not have lifetime guarantees of employment.

Requiring Word (or compatible program), this report from Hamilton provides significant insight into NESCAC Staffing and Resources.

Excerpt:

Section D. Coach and Staff Numbers and Salary Expenditures

Similar to a number of peer institutions, Hamilton coaches rarely work as a single-sport coach with one team—almost all actually coach or assist another team or serve as a physical education instructor. Of note, Hamilton coaches serve as a head coach/assistant coach or head coach/phys ed instructor a higher percentage of the time than their peers.

Hamilton is the only school in which all coaches have faculty status with rank, but one must remember that Hamilton does have a physical education requirement, full-time coaches are required to teach, and physical education enrollment as a percentage of the student body is the highest among the 11 schools (61% to the median of 31%)—all of which are not the case at every school. While the report did not find a direct correlation between faculty status and coaching salaries, it did find that years of service to an institution were the strongest determinant of an individual coach’s salary. Therefore, it should be of no surprise that because Hamilton coaches tend to have fewer years of service (11 years versus the median of 15 years), our median salary is lower than the peer group median salary ($46,499 versus $51,000). But Hamilton is at the peer median for both minimum salary and maximum salary. A final note- the report did not find a particular sport for which a head coach automatically earns the highest salary; instead, a variety of sports can boast the highest paid coach at the schools.

Hamilton’s headcount for its athletics staff is smaller than that of the peer institutions. While the size of the full-time coaching staff is about average, we employ a much smaller number of part-time coaches and a much greater number of grad assistants/interns/volunteers. Also, Hamilton’s full-time and part-time athletics staff headcount is less than the median. In sum, the total athletics headcount at Hamilton is 55, while the median total headcount is 61, with a low of 46 and a high of 79.

The report breaks down full-time equivalencies of all coaching and staffing positions. The only figure of note in which Hamilton deviates from the mean is total teaching FTE; the following are relatively close to the median: total coaching FTE, total staff FTE, total FTE.

In terms of salary and benefit expenditures, Hamilton ranks below the median for every indicator- total coach salary, total coach benefits, total staff salary, total staff benefits, total salary expenditures, total benefit expenditures. Hamilton’s figures total staff salary and total staff benefits are particularly low in comparison to the other 10 schools, while total coach salary is only slightly less than the median. Finally, Hamilton’s salary expenditures for the entire athletic enterprise rank second to last: $1,294,400 versus the median of $1,625,500.
 
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Coaches are not tenured at NESCAC schools although some are granted quasi-faculty status as professors of PE and granted long-term contracts (like 5 years) but do not have lifetime guarantees of employment.
Really? Do some more checking.
 
I suppose that you think Assist Prof Bill Kangas has tenure . . .

Also, for the vast majority of schools, "Assistant Professor" is, by definition, a tenure-track position. It would be different if you said "Adjunct Professor". And most institutions give an Assistant Professor 6-8 years to earn tenure and become an "Associate Professor" or THEY FIRE THEM. Kangas has been around for 25 years...
 
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So if Mandigo doesn't put in for the job, what alums of the men's program are now coaching in college somewhere that might want the job?
 
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So if Mandigo doesn't put in for the job, what alums of the men's program are now coaching in college somewhere that might want the job?

Current St Mikes coach Damian DiGiulian was an asst coach to Beaney during two very good Midd years and longtime UVM ***'t coach. He played at Hamilton.
 
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