Big Ten > NCHC

[The Exiled One]

Re: Big Ten > NCHC

Since both the Gophers and the Huskies play their home games "on way too big ice" why is it that when you watch SCSU it's "different hockey"? I'm sure your answer will be something along the lines of, "because they're just better at it, and they are more skilled" (which by the way I wouldn't argue with) but what does SCSU do differently on "the way too big ice" that the Gophers could learn from? Especially with the all-important playoff series with Michigan looming?

I've watch both teams a bunch this season. I think the Huskies have a more aggressive forecheck. They gamble more often in the neutral and offensive zones and the gambles are paying off. I think the reason it looks different is that the Huskies will often have three guys below the dots when the Gophers might only have two. When they gain control of the puck, they trust their points to hold the zone rather than forcing it low over and over. Both teams have good individual skill, but I think the Huskies trust each other more and have been playing this whole season with a grudge and a ton of confidence.

Confidence is why they have ELEVEN come from behind wins this season, which I have to imagine is a record or dang close to it. Two of their three ties were also comebacks. They are 9-3-1 when the other team scores first. All this means that even if you get a lead, the Huskies will still beat or tie you 76.5% of the time. That's insane to me.

 

[UMD21]

Confidence is why they have ELEVEN come from behind wins this season, which I have to imagine is a record or dang close to it. Two of their three ties were also comebacks. They are 9-3-1 when the other team scores first. All this means that even if you get a lead, the Huskies will still beat or tie you 76.5% of the time. That's insane to me.

That experience should bode well for them this post-season. Frequently when we see teams have phenomenal success throughout the regular season (thinking Denver last year, and SCSU), they tend to forget how to overcome adversity and are a huge risk to be a bracket buster. Hope the SCSU-UMD series will be a great practice for the post season. The timing couldn’t come more perfectly. Too bad it’s not a home-home

 

[ts8801]

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That experience should bode well for them this post-season. Frequently when we see teams have phenomenal success throughout the regular season (thinking Denver last year, and SCSU), they tend to forget how to overcome adversity and are a huge risk to be a bracket buster. Hope the SCSU-UMD series will be a great practice for the post season. The timing couldn’t come more perfectly. Too bad it’s not a home-home

IDK with the blizzard they are predicting I am happy both games are in one location!

 

[St. Clown]

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I have Saturday tickets, but my wife and I are looking to stay home because of the weather. We live some 90 miles away form St. Cloud, that would make for a really long night.

 

[Biddco]

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We're just gonna leave earlier. What's nice is we are gonna stay in town on Saturday. Been planning for a while and that's gonna be perfect for riding out the storm

 

[ts8801]

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I have Saturday tickets, but my wife and I are looking to stay home because of the weather. We live some 90 miles away form St. Cloud, that would make for a really long night.

Ya we were planning on driving back to the TC after the game, but now we might spend Sat in St Cloud.

 

[Slap Shot]

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So Brent what you are saying is the B1G bottom feeder can beat the NCHC bottom feeder so the B1G is a better conference? The NCHC has 3 of the top 6 teams in the Pairwise and the best the B1G has is 7th. Doesn't quite add up for me.

3 of the Top 6 and 4 of the Top 14, while B1G has 3 in the Top 16 as of now and the NCHC has the edge 5 to 4 in the Top 20. Top 30 B1G has 7 while the NCHC is stuck at 5. So the argument can be made the NCHC has the clear edge at the top and things level off quite a bit after.

Will be interesting to see if either ND or PSU can get in without winning the conference and then if a 3rd team manages to win the conference tournament.

 

[The Exiled One]

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Ya we were planning on driving back to the TC after the game, but now we might spend Sat in St Cloud.

Booked a room last night based on the latest weather reports. We're going to try to get up there by 1:00pm tomorrow.

Ended up with four extra tickets because some friends bailed out on me. If anybody wants them for super cheap, send me a reputation comment.

 

[Tipsy McStagger]

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3 of the Top 6 and 4 of the Top 14, while B1G has 3 in the Top 16 as of now and the NCHC has the edge 5 to 4 in the Top 20. Top 30 B1G has 7 while the NCHC is stuck at 5. So the argument can be made the NCHC has the clear edge at the top and things level off quite a bit after.

HAHAHAHAHA "Sure the NCHC has three teams that are better than the best B1G team, but the B1G has more mediocre teams, so the debate rages on!" This is just pathetic stuff coming from Gopher fans. And especially ol' Slapdick here, who just five days ago said he doesn't care, but is in here again trying to make the case for the B1G today. There is a good chance the B1G only gets 2 teams in the tournament, and a decent chance they only get one team in. The NCHC has the top team (by a wide margin) and the #3 team. 2 of the top 3 teams. You guys are seriously going to keep going with this?

 

[ThePowerConference]

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Well played Tipsy. Argument over.

 

[4four4]

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HAHAHAHAHA "Sure the NCHC has three teams that are better than the best B1G team, but the B1G has more mediocre teams, so the debate rages on!" This is just pathetic stuff coming from Gopher fans. And especially ol' Slapdick here, who just five days ago said he doesn't care, but is in here again trying to make the case for the B1G today. There is a good chance the B1G only gets 2 teams in the tournament, and a decent chance they only get one team in. The NCHC has the top team (by a wide margin) and the #3 team. 2 of the top 3 teams. You guys are seriously going to keep going with this?

I agree! This thread is tired and boring and I don't care if the Big Ten is better. I only care about Minnesota winning and would rather see the Wild win a Stanley Cup before anything else.

 

[The Rube]

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HAHAHAHAHA "Sure the NCHC has three teams that are better than the best B1G team, but the B1G has more mediocre teams, so the debate rages on!" This is just pathetic stuff coming from Gopher fans. And especially ol' Slapdick here, who just five days ago said he doesn't care, but is in here again trying to make the case for the B1G today. There is a good chance the B1G only gets 2 teams in the tournament, and a decent chance they only get one team in. The NCHC has the top team (by a wide margin) and the #3 team. 2 of the top 3 teams. You guys are seriously going to keep going with this?

As a whole, I think B1G is equal too, or better than the Nachos. I said that your best could beat our best. I also think our mediore/worst could beat your mediocre worst. So, that's the WHOLE pie. If you were to say "the top 2-3 Nachos are better than the top 2-3 B1G?" Not even a question. But that ISN'T what I posited in my post.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

As a whole, I think B1G is equal too, or better than the Nachos. I said that your best could beat our best. I also think our mediore/worst could beat your mediocre worst. So, that's the WHOLE pie. If you were to say "the top 2-3 Nachos are better than the top 2-3 B1G?" Not even a question. But that ISN'T what I posited in my post.

Here would be the matchups...

SCSU vs Ohio State
Minnesota Duluth vs Notre Dame
Denver vs Penn State
Western Michigan vs Minnesota
North Dakota vs Michigan
Colorado College vs Wisconsin
Miami vs Michigan State

Which four series does the B1G win?

 

[The Rube]

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Here would be the matchups...

SCSU vs Ohio State
Minnesota Duluth vs Notre Dame
Denver vs Penn State
Western Michigan vs Minnesota
North Dakota vs Michigan
Colorado College vs Wisconsin
Miami vs Michigan State

Which four series does the B1G win?

PSU, MN, MI, MSU.

Now obviously, there are some that are really close. PSU would be one of them.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

PSU, MN, MI, MSU.

Now obviously, there are some that are really close. PSU would be one of them.

Have you seen Western play this year?

 

[The Rube]

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Have you seen Western play this year?

Have you seen MSU or MN play lately? I know this is all just a dck swinging competition. It's all in fun. I guess what might be a better question in all this is what is the TOUGHER conference? The least separation in talent, etc?

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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FWIW, both KRACH and PWR would give the NCHC a 5-2 edge in those series.

 

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Have you seen MSU or MN play lately? I know this is all just a dck swinging competition. It's all in fun. I guess what might be a better question in all this is what is the TOUGHER conference? The least separation in talent, etc?

Answer my question, then Ill answer yours.

 

[UMD21]

PSU, MN, MI, MSU.

Now obviously, there are some that are really close. PSU would be one of them.

I used to give consideration to your point even though it’s speculative and fairly likely, inaccurate. Now I think you smoke salvia and try to make predictions.
You remember how bad Denver beat Pedo State (or are only B1G fans allowed to call them that?) in the NCAA’s? And that was when Penn was “good”.
Anyways, I digress..
SCSU-UMD game living up to hype. Tried to flip to a B1G game to compare play—strange, no televised B1G hockey on. Even the rescheduled DU-CC game is on. Now, I get annoyed enough when we miss the first 5 minutes of a game on CBS Sports because the last minute of a bball game carries on 15 minutes from a foul fest. But I can’t imagine how frustrating it has to be to have no hockey game to watch and instead, 2 bball games

 

[The Rube]

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MN-MI was on FSN+. Radio got bounced to a subpar channel due to other MN sports. Busy weekend in the Cities.

I haven't seen Western play, radio talked them up a little, as they did MSU, and obviously MN.

And this whole convo is speculative, given all the teams in discussion do not play the same OOC schedule, nor the intra-conference schedule.