Big Ten Hockey Conference

[CHFAN222]

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According to the poster on Gopher Puck Live, the announcement is coming within 27 days.

Notre Dame with a new arena is too tempting to pass up. You act like it was written in the Bible.

Foootball $$$ >>> Hockey $$$. Football would drive any new additional members into sports conferences not hockey. Not only that the B10 is an academic partnership and would not be willing to open up its doors unless its an all in type deal.

As for a poster on gopher puck whatever board. That is speculation as of now. Unless we get some news article giving it credibility I do not believe it. There have been plenty of rumors on these message boards as well that have not panned out.

 

[blockski]

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Yeah... and why do you believe it? All these things go away with a simple vote... its a matter of wanting it to occur. If they want it, it will be done... they'll define the expedient reason afterwards.

The BT doesn't want it to happen at all, unless the boys in South Bend are planning on bringing all of their sports (including football) under the Big Ten umbrella.

Is it out of the realistic realm of possibilities that should this force realignment that the BT teams unite while not calling the conference TBT and thereby being able to have non-BT teams?

No, it's not. I also think that this (for those that fear the BTHC) would be even worse than the BTHC. If this is the case, why stop at Notre Dame? Why not recreate the old WCHA, plus OSU and PSU? Six BT teams, plus Notre Dame, DU, CC, and North Dakota.

Now, that kind of superconference would indeed be problematic for the remnants of the WCHA and CCHA.

The only other option I can think of would be this - a full on merger between the WCHA and the CCHA to create 1 giant 24 team conference (including PSU) with three divisions - the 'Western' division, the 'Central' division, and the 'Big Ten' division. But, then you'd still only have one conference with one autobid - I think separate conferences with scheduling arrangements of some sort would be more likely.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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The BT doesn't want it to happen at all, unless the boys in South Bend are planning on bringing all of their sports (including football) under the Big Ten umbrella.



No, it's not. I also think that this (for those that fear the BTHC) would be even worse than the BTHC. If this is the case, why stop at Notre Dame? Why not recreate the old WCHA, plus OSU and PSU? Six BT teams, plus Notre Dame, DU, CC, and North Dakota.

Now, that kind of superconference would indeed be problematic for the remnants of the WCHA and CCHA.

The only other option I can think of would be this - a full on merger between the WCHA and the CCHA to create 1 giant 24 team conference (including PSU) with three divisions - the 'Western' division, the 'Central' division, and the 'Big Ten' division. But, then you'd still only have one conference with one autobid - I think separate conferences with scheduling arrangements of some sort would be more likely.

I was getting kinda excited when you said the bolded part until you decided to ignore that my MTU huskies were part of the old WCHA

 

[ScottM]

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Notre Dame with a new arena is too tempting to pass up. You act like it was written in the Bible.

Instead of Touchdown Jesus, they can have his image with "Jesus Saves!" imprinted in the crease.

 

[dggoddard]

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As for a poster on gopher puck whatever board. That is speculation as of now. Unless we get some news article giving it credibility I do not believe it. There have been plenty of rumors on these message boards as well that have not panned out.

I've seen more stories broken on this message board than all of the other "mainstream" media outlets combined.

Perhaps it was Lucia (Notre Dame '81) that pulled the Notre Dame into the discussion. But no matter how it happened or if it has happened, I believe it. Some don't. Lets just see how it plays out.

Another GPL rumor: The BTHC has approached the United Center in Chicago about hosting their Final 4/5. Now connect the dots...What U.S. city has the largest number of Notre Dame fans? ___________

 

[CHFAN222]

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I've seen more stories broken on this message board than all of the other "mainstream" media outlets combined.

Perhaps it was Lucia (Notre Dame '81) that pulled the Notre Dame into the discussion. But no matter how it happened or if it has happened, I believe it. Some don't. Lets just see how it plays out.

Another GPL rumor: The BTHC has approached the United Center in Chicago about hosting their Final 4/5. Now connect the dots...What U.S. city has the largest number of Notre Dame fans? ___________

Chicago also has probably the most or at least the 2nd most alums of every school in the B10. It is the third largest city in the country and in the middle of the conferences footprint.

 

[dggoddard]

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This article about Western Michigan hockey suggests that the CCHA & WCHA will split teams accordingly.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2010/09/graham_couch_column_penn_state.html

CCHA
Western Michigan
Northern Michigan
Ferris State
Lake State
Michigan Tech
Bowling Green
UAA
Alaska

WCHA
UND
MSU-M
SCSU
Duluth
DU
CC
Bemidji
UNO
(I guess Miami????)

 

[MavsFan]

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This article about Western Michigan hockey suggests that the CCHA & WCHA will split teams accordingly.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2010/09/graham_couch_column_penn_state.html

CCHA
Western Michigan
Northern Michigan
Ferris State
Lake State
Michigan Tech
Bowling Green
UAA
Alaska

WCHA
UND
MSU-M
SCSU
Duluth
DU
CC
Bemidji
UNO
(I guess Miami????)

I can't see them putting both Alaska teams in the same conference, requiring TWO trips up there every year for their teams.

 

[dggoddard]

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I can't see them putting both Alaska teams in the same conference, requiring TWO trips up there every year for their teams.

Maybe some teams will be able schedule trips over school breaks and holidays and stay the week.

Or maybe they'll only play 20, 22, 24 conference games.

 

[Shirtless Guy]

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I can't see them putting both Alaska teams in the same conference, requiring TWO trips up there every year for their teams.

If you read the article its more about the teams that aren't big ten schools and don't end up in the Anti-Big Ten will be a bunch of michigan schools, bowling green and the alaska schools...

If Big Ten hockey happens, where does WMU wind up, once the CCHA and WCHA are done picking over each other? In an eight-team league with Northern Michigan, Ferris State, Lake Superior State, Michigan Tech, Bowling Green and both Alaska programs?

 

[Craig P.]

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This article about Western Michigan hockey suggests that the CCHA & WCHA will split teams accordingly.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2010/09/graham_couch_column_penn_state.html

CCHA
Western Michigan
Northern Michigan
Ferris State
Lake State
Michigan Tech
Bowling Green
UAA
Alaska

WCHA
UND
MSU-M
SCSU
Duluth
DU
CC
Bemidji
UNO
(I guess Miami????)

Miami would be following ND into the BTHC in this scenario, I believe, based on the count of teams.

 

[aparch]

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Another GPL rumor: The BTHC has approached the United Center in Chicago about hosting their Final 4/5. Now connect the dots...What U.S. city has the largest number of Notre Dame fans? ___________

South Bend, IN?


Domer fans are just as prevalent as Illini and Northwestern alums in this region. Considering how popular and highly promoted Notre Dame's Shillelagh Tournament is (read: not popular or promoted at all), you're reading too much into it.




*edit* There needs to be a meeting between the non-BigTen Athletic Directors and Coaches of the CCHA, WCHA, and possibly a couple AHA teams. They need to grab chairs and rearrange themselves and tell the BigTen to go pound sand.

 

[Sterling Cooper]

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After the debacle involving the Big Ten's 1999 invite to the domers, the domers were just arrogant enough to come back to the Big Ten and ask, "mind if we still join the CIC?" The Big Ten told them to get lost.

Domer arrogance might lead them to believe that they'll simply barge into a BTHC on their terms. As with the CIC, they will be sorely mistaken. Neither the Big Ten office nor the Big Ten presidents are going to lift one single finger to help out ND. These aren't stupid people, and they're not going to hand away a potential bargaining chip that could be used to get the domers fully into the Big Ten. They didn't do it with the CIC, and they won't do it with the BTHC.

 

[dggoddard]

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After the debacle involving the Big Ten's 1999 invite to the domers, the domers were just arrogant enough to come back to the Big Ten and ask, "mind if we still join the CIC?" The Big Ten told them to get lost.

Domer arrogance might lead them to believe that they'll simply barge into a BTHC on their terms. As with the CIC, they will be sorely mistaken. Neither the Big Ten office nor the Big Ten presidents are going to lift one single finger to help out ND. These aren't stupid people, and they're not going to hand away a potential bargaining chip that could be used to get the domers fully into the Big Ten. They didn't do it with the CIC, and they won't do it with the BTHC.

Maybe the Big Ten will employ the old drug dealer business model. First hit of heroin is free.

Give Notre Dame a taste of the Yum-Yum and then just sit back and wait for them to get addicted to the money.

 

[TJbadgerfan]

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They need to grab chairs and rearrange themselves and tell the BigTen to go pound sand.

What hapens if the other conferences would come out and say we will not schedule non-conference games against the Big Ten?

Does anyone know if the Big Ten currently has any financial gain from the hockey schools?

 

[Beer Pong Horn]

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This article about Western Michigan hockey suggests that the CCHA & WCHA will split teams accordingly.

http://www.mlive.com/broncos/index.ssf/2010/09/graham_couch_column_penn_state.html

CCHA
Western Michigan
Northern Michigan
Ferris State
Lake State
Michigan Tech
Bowling Green
UAA
Alaska

WCHA
UND
MSU-M
SCSU
Duluth
DU
CC
Bemidji
UNO
(I guess Miami????)

Please refer to my sig regarding Michigan Tech.

 

[dggoddard]

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Please refer to my sig regarding Michigan Tech.

You better forward your sig to the author of the article.

You might as well forward your sig to the Western Michigan hockey coach as well, because more than likely he was the source of the quote.

 

[dggoddard]

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Interesting quote from Mike Eaves...

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/hockey/article_a5593130-c1f7-11df-8160-001cc4c002e0.html

"During WCHA meetings held last week in Minneapolis, UW men’s coach Mike Eaves said there was “some angst” among his peers regarding the topic of a Big Ten presence in college hockey."

And another interesting quote...

“There’s going to be Big Ten hockey,” assured a source with intimate knowledge of the process, adding that 2014-15 is the target point for introducing the new league although he said “it could happen sooner than that.”

Big Ten Schools tell the WCHA schools they are leaving the conference...

 

[Sterling Cooper]

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What hapens if the other conferences would come out and say we will not schedule non-conference games against the Big Ten?

Does anyone know if the Big Ten currently has any financial gain from the hockey schools?

If it was organized in any way, I believe that it would be collusion and result in a nasty lawsuit.

If not, I think several hockey schools (Miami of Ohio, Bowling Green, the directional Michigans) would pay a pretty dear price should the Big Ten retaliate by not scheduling any more football money games whose payouts help keep their athletic departments afloat.

 

[Handyman]

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According to the poster on Gopher Puck Live, the announcement is coming within 27 days when the next Big Ten meetings occur. The hockey issues are already on the agenda.

Notre Dame with a new arena is too tempting to pass up. You act like it was written in the Bible.

You do realize that GPL is just a Gopher fansite right, that it isnt some official U of M sports site like Gophersports? You are putting a lot of stock into a random poster on a message board who has never in the past (as far as I remember) shown any connections to anyone of influence. The few who actually might be in the know have said nothing of the kind.

Sorry but if you are pinning your idea on that, you have less credibility than I previously thought. His rumor is no more valid than anyone else's...christ I could just randomly say I heard UND would join the Big Ten next year and it would have as much value, do you plan to run with that too?