Big Ten Hockey 2016-2017

[D2D]

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You can have a lower seeded team by the time conference tournaments come and finally peaking into the best team. But in the B1G format if you aren't the #1 or 2 seed you will have to win 3 games in 3 days and it's a simple fact you can't get rid of all the lactic acid buildup.
That's what happened to us, by the time you get to the last period of the championship game your legs are gone and there's no more gas in the tank and a team wins not because they were the better team at that point, simply because they were fresher.

I guess not having to play 3 games in 3 days is a reward for winning more games during the entire regular season.
I wonder how they'll do it next year with a 7th team?

 

[gopher wes]

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It would help to get a real D1 team at MSU and it's well past time for Berenson also...could be a tremendous conference if that happens

Not necessarily disagreeing with you on Berenson, but they lost A TON of talent in the offseason and they were a game away from the Frozen Four a year ago before losing to the eventual champs.....

 

[Wisko McBadgerton]

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I guess not having to play 3 games in 3 days is a reward for winning more games during the entire regular season.
I wonder how they'll do it next year with a 7th team?

Badgers won 3 in 3 days to win the last Old WCHA tourney in 2013, so it can happen.


And the Domer's will have a play-in game vs. last place on Thursday morning every year. Any objections from the current membership?

 

[KaMiGo]

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I wonder how they'll do it next year with a 7th team?

They have already announced the new format. It will be a three weekend format at campus locations.

First Weekend
#1 gets a bye
#2, #3, #4 host #7, #6, #5 in best of 3.

Second Weekend (assuming all teams are reseeded)
#1, #2 host #4, #3 in a single game

Third Weekend (assuming all teams are reseeded)
#1 hosts #2 in a single game

Personally, I would rather see the second and third weekends combined. Bring #2, #3, #4 to #1 and they play two semifinals and the finals in the #1 barn over 1 weekend.

 

[D2D]

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They have already announced the new format. It will be a three weekend format at campus locations.

First Weekend
#1 gets a bye
#2, #3, #4 host #7, #6, #5 in best of 3.

Second Weekend (assuming all teams are reseeded)
#1, #2 host #4, #3 in a single game

Third Weekend (assuming all teams are reseeded)
#1 hosts #2 in a single game

Personally, I would rather see the second and third weekends combined. Bring #2, #3, #4 to #1 and they play two semifinals and the finals in the #1 barn over 1 weekend.

With the new format as planed, I would imagine the third weekend would be held the weekend before the start of the NCAA regionals, i.e. no in between weekend break for the #1 and #2 seeds? Could be a factor for players needing some extra time to heal injuries.

 

[KaMiGo]

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With the new format as planed, I would imagine the third weekend would be held the weekend before the start of the NCAA regionals, i.e. no in between weekend break for the #1 and #2 seeds? Could be a factor for players needing some extra time to heal injuries.

Literally all of the other conferences have their championships that same weekend.

Every conference (including the B1G) will be having a title game on the 18th this year, which is the Saturday before regionals.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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They have already announced the new format. It will be a three weekend format at campus locations.

First Weekend
#1 gets a bye
#2, #3, #4 host #7, #6, #5 in best of 3.

Second Weekend (assuming all teams are reseeded)
#1, #2 host #4, #3 in a single game

Third Weekend (assuming all teams are reseeded)
#1 hosts #2 in a single game

Personally, I would rather see the second and third weekends combined. Bring #2, #3, #4 to #1 and they play two semifinals and the finals in the #1 barn over 1 weekend.

Lord that's moronic. I agree with you. 2nd and 3rd weekends need to be combined or forget it.

 

[KaMiGo]

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They have already announced the new format. It will be a three weekend format at campus locations.

First Weekend
#1 gets a bye
#2, #3, #4 host #7, #6, #5 in best of 3.

Second Weekend (assuming all teams are reseeded)
#1, #2 host #4, #3 in a single game

Third Weekend (assuming all teams are reseeded)
#1 hosts #2 in a single game

Personally, I would rather see the second and third weekends combined. Bring #2, #3, #4 to #1 and they play two semifinals and the finals in the #1 barn over 1 weekend.

Here is a link to the article from a few weeks ago about the new schedule and a lot of other things that the Deputy Commissioner had to say about the conference.

 

[BUtogether]

Not necessarily disagreeing with you on Berenson, but they lost A TON of talent in the offseason and they were a game away from the Frozen Four a year ago before losing to the eventual champs.....

That's part of the deal when you recruit those guys..same as BU...one tournament appearance in 5 years at Michigan is unacceptable..time for him to go

 

[Decatur Spartan]

Far be it for me to defend Sparty, but from '82-'08 MSU won 7 Conference Titles, 11 Conference Tourney's, went to 22 NCAA's, 8 Frozen Fours, and won 2 National Championships. I'd disagree with your characterization.

Funny how people don't remember or know somethings. In addition to MSU's CCHA success, from 1984 to 2012, the CCHA won eight NC's. BGSU in 1984. MSU in 1986/2007. UM 1996/98. LSSU 1988, 92, 94. And nine runner up spots. The vaunted WCHA won ten With seven runner ups. Only two more.

 

[UMICH]

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Not necessarily disagreeing with you on Berenson, but they lost A TON of talent in the offseason and they were a game away from the Frozen Four a year ago before losing to the eventual champs.....

We lose talent every single year, granted the losses from last years team were larger than normal. We normally just reload, not the case this year. Plus WOTS is that there is absolutely zero leadership in the locker room. Stupid millennials. It'd be nice if this awful season turned out similar to 2010. 2010 was a bad regular season, but then the guys turned it on in the post-season. Winning the conference tourny, a game in the NCAA's, and then getting a win taken away from us in the regional final. Of course I'd prefer we go farther this year but this team just doesn't have it.

 

[D2D]

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Winning the conference tourny, a game in the NCAA's, and then getting a win taken away from us in the regional final. Of course I'd prefer we go farther this year but this team just doesn't have it.

Matching the 2010 finish is still possible. Not likely, but certainly possible, especially in a six team conference.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

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Badgers won 3 in 3 days to win the last Old WCHA tourney in 2013, so it can happen.


And the Domer's will have a play-in game vs. last place on Thursday morning every year. Any objections from the current membership?

Yes, and Ohio State did it on 2004 beating Michigan in the CCHA title game.
I'm not saying it can't be done, just that the odds are against you.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

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Here is a link to the article from a few weeks ago about the new schedule and a lot of other things that the Deputy Commissioner had to say about the conference.

Interesting article but there is one issue of particular interest to Ohio State fans that was not brought up and that's WHERE Ohio State's playoff games will be held if they host?
For years now Ohio State following the money as usual has leased out the Schott which houses Ohio State's ice to the Ohio High School Athletic Association for holding state high school basketball & wrestling championships thereby kicking the hockey team out of their own building to play elsewhere when part of the CCHA, usually in the old 800 seat barn.
Steve Piotrowski, head of B1G hockey officiating commented unofficially that it was an embarrassment for the program and conference when it happened in the CCHA days but had no idea what the B1G's position on this would be. That's all he had to say.
The CCHA had no sway over what Ohio State did but big brother B1G has authority in these matters and may lay down the law to OSU that with the level of national exposure the conference is trying to achieve any attempt to put a B1G playoff game in a sub-standard facility may well be frowned upon, especially if it's televised.
It will be interesting to see how this eventually plays out.

 

[JoeGopher]

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Lord that's moronic. I agree with you. 2nd and 3rd weekends need to be combined or forget it.

This really looks like an asinine way to run the playoffs. A better solution: Team #7 is SOL. Week 1 - 3 vs. 6 and 4 vs 5 while 1&2 get a bye. Then the following weekend you have #1 host and you have a standard 4 game "tourney" that is single elimination with a 3rd place game. Easy peasy. No league tourney should take 3 weeks to complete.

Regardless, I imagine the Gopher ticket office will include the playoff tickets as part of the Season Ticket package, just like the old days in the WCHA when they automatically included 1st round in the pack. That way, they make you ask for the refund if the team doesn't make it.

 

[Spartanforlife4]

Here is a link to the article from a few weeks ago about the new schedule and a lot of other things that the Deputy Commissioner had to say about the conference.

That sucks. I was under the impression it was 2-7 in a three game series and the next weekend was a four team single elimination hosted by #1.

With the announced format there's no point in not making the semifinals two out of three.

It might just be worse than putting the baseball tournament in the far west of the conference or the next two basketball tournaments on the east coast.

 

[KaMiGo]

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Interesting article but there is one issue of particular interest to Ohio State fans that was not brought up and that's WHERE Ohio State's playoff games will be held if they host?
For years now Ohio State following the money as usual has leased out the Schott which houses Ohio State's ice to the Ohio High School Athletic Association for holding state high school basketball & wrestling championships thereby kicking the hockey team out of their own building to play elsewhere when part of the CCHA, usually in the old 800 seat barn.
Steve Piotrowski, head of B1G hockey officiating commented unofficially that it was an embarrassment for the program and conference when it happened in the CCHA days but had no idea what the B1G's position on this would be. That's all he had to say.
The CCHA had no sway over what Ohio State did but big brother B1G has authority in these matters and may lay down the law to OSU that with the level of national exposure the conference is trying to achieve any attempt to put a B1G playoff game in a sub-standard facility may well be frowned upon, especially if it's televised.
It will be interesting to see how this eventually plays out.

Wisconsin is in the same boat. The Kohl Center is booked for the high school boy's basketball tournament around that time of the year.
A few years ago they hosted a late-season weekend at the Alliant Energy Center (The Coliseum) where the team had played through the late 90's when the Kohl Center was opened.

Maybe that is part of the compromise with having 1-game match-ups in weekends 2 and 3 of the tournament. That would offset the exposure of playing in an alternate venue.

 

[KaMiGo]

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Regardless, I imagine the Gopher ticket office will include the playoff tickets as part of the Season Ticket package, just like the old days in the WCHA when they automatically included 1st round in the pack. That way, they make you ask for the refund if the team doesn't make it.

Wisconsin did that too, but they would automatically send refund checks if they didn't host first round WCHA playoffs.

 

[Hockeybuckeye]

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Wisconsin is in the same boat. The Kohl Center is booked for the high school boy's basketball tournament around that time of the year.
A few years ago they hosted a late-season weekend at the Alliant Energy Center (The Coliseum) where the team had played through the late 90's when the Kohl Center was opened.

Maybe that is part of the compromise with having 1-game match-ups in weekends 2 and 3 of the tournament. That would offset the exposure of playing in an alternate venue.

I never would have imagined Wisconsin dealing with the same situation. I thought your school had more pride in and respect for your program than our school does for ours. Perhaps all the B1G schools who hold hockey in multi-use facilities will have to re-think their priorities.

 

[BUtogether]

We lose talent every single year, granted the losses from last years team were larger than normal. We normally just reload, not the case this year. Plus WOTS is that there is absolutely zero leadership in the locker room. Stupid millennials. It'd be nice if this awful season turned out similar to 2010. 2010 was a bad regular season, but then the guys turned it on in the post-season. Winning the conference tourny, a game in the NCAA's, and then getting a win taken away from us in the regional final. Of course I'd prefer we go farther this year but this team just doesn't have it.

Again one tournament appearance in 5 seasons isn't exactly reloading...I would expect more from a program with the tradition of Michigan