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Biden v Dump 1: If not now, when? If not us, who?

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ScoobyDoo said:
For those that say, or said, that institutions will hold. That the state is bigger than the corruption and destruction of the man. They were wrong. Dead wrong. 200,000+ dead wrong.
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Nobody said this. The entire point is we must protect our institutions. You have been fighting (and losing to) a strawman for 3.5 years.
 
aparch said:
Strange things are afoot at the Circle K...

538 is reporting that Biden has a lead nationally, but that lead isn't translating to the expected difference in each state polled. Each state is reporting a narrower than expected lead for Biden.
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Nate is talking on twitter about how polling deals with people who already voted which was one of the reasons I thought of why this might be showing up. We dont know how the "I voted" respondents (if they were asked) would fit into these polls. There is almost 10 million ballots received as of today many in the states that are being highlighted so far.

I admit a lot of this stuff is over my head...but I don't get the sense this is something Nate and his crew are super concerned about. A bit of their usual hedging. If you go to the state breakdowns the numbers arent really that close, just closer than you expect with the ridiculous national polls. (which I would would assume would be bigger in margin because of Biden being in the lead and where he is leading) I mean look at Pennsylvania and Wisconsin where Biden is polling above 50%. To me that is the more relevant stat. If he is approaching 50% or higher that means there is likely not many undecideds left and Trump needs to win all of them to have a shot to hold the state. (he has no real path without both of those states)

Where this will likely show up and be problematic is in places like Ohio, Arizona and North Carolina where Biden has a slight lead but not a majority in the polling. If the undecideds break Right then Trump gets the state. If they split it could go either way. Biden of course doesn't need to win any of those states to get to 270...

Just what I see with my limited knowledge.
 
rufus said:
How does that help them, exactly? The GOP, posts on, presumably, mostly GOP viewed media, about boxes put up at gun shops and such. Now, I'm assuming that GOP voters as well as Dem voters may be depositing ballots into those boxes. And then what, they just throw them all out? They can't tell a Dem vote from a Rep. vote.

That's how stupid these people are.
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Yes they throw them out. Then they "find" them and claim that the Dems threw away Trump votes to rig it. It will take the media at least half a day to figure out who put the boxes there but by then the story has circulated and it doesnt matter. It is the same game they play all the time.

They cant steal it without at least the appearance that fraud is going on. Get a bunch of GOPers and olds to make mistakes and then use those mistakes to prove the system doesn't work. That is why they have been sending out fake ballots too.

It is all part of the con.
 
New Siena/NYT poll only has Peters up 1 on James for the MI Senate seat. Shows Biden up 8 on Trump.

I don't get it. John James' entire campaign is that he was a helicopter pilot. He has absolutely no policies and flip flops on support of Trump depending on the news of the day.
 
Spartanforlife4 said:
New Siena/NYT poll only has Peters up 1 on James for the MI Senate seat. Shows Biden up 8 on Trump.

I don't get it. John James' entire campaign is that he was a helicopter pilot. He has absolutely no policies and flip flops on support of Trump depending on the news of the day.
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If you look James' numbers still stink. Peters just dropped in that specific poll. I wouldnt worry unless James' numbers start moving up from the low 40s. (or if more polls come out that show it close)
 
I've started to wonder if there is any scenario in which trump voluntarily admits defeat in this election. I think no matter what the outcome is, he will claim victory and any results that don't spell a win will be dismissed as fraudulent. I believe he will spend the entirety of November 4-January 20, 2021 stoking this fire. I think he will try to create as much chaos as is humanly possible.

At the end of the day, it is going to be up to other elected republicans to do the right thing because trump will not. Biden might win a 1988 style landslide and trump is going to claim he won. I'm not saying any of this will work, mind you, just that trump will pull these stunts.

The weeks between Election day and Inauguration Day are going to be the most consequential days this country has seen since late 1860-early 1861.
 
Handyman said:
https://twitter.com/johntalsr/status/1315774645061246976

11 hours...
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The Nazis are going to die so spectacularly it might even occur to them that the rest of the world wants to them to curl up and die.

Meanwhile, as we move into the final 3 weeks, the likelihoods are finally exploding on 538:

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Biden chance to win:

[COLOR=#c0392b].08 KS
.11 MT
.11 MO
.16 SC
.23 AK[/COLOR] [HR][/HR][COLOR=#c0392b].31 TX[/COLOR]  [HR][/HR].45 IA
.46 GA
.53 OH [HR][/HR][COLOR=#2980b9].64 NC
.67 AZ
.73 FL[/COLOR]  [HR][/HR][COLOR=#2980b9].84 NH
.86 WI  [/COLOR] <-- election tipping point
[COLOR=#2980b9].87 PA
.87 NV
.91 MI
.91 MN[/COLOR]
 
WeAreNDHockey said:
I've started to wonder if there is any scenario in which trump voluntarily admits defeat in this election. I think no matter what the outcome is, he will claim victory and any results that don't spell a win will be dismissed as fraudulent. I believe he will spend the entirety of November 4-January 20, 2021 stoking this fire. I think he will try to create as much chaos as is humanly possible.

At the end of the day, it is going to be up to other elected republicans to do the right thing because trump will not. Biden might win a 1988 style landslide and trump is going to claim he won. I'm not saying any of this will work, mind you, just that trump will pull these stunts.

The weeks between Election day and Inauguration Day are going to be the most consequential days this country has seen since late 1860-early 1861.
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I keep getting back to the fact that he has proven himself a coward at virtually every stage of his life. He has always talked the big talk and entered litigation, but he caves, settles, or files bankruptcy in the end.

He will talk big, say it's a hoax, that he was cheated, and threaten to tie things up for weeks and months. He'll promise that the SCt. will ultimately decide the outcome. But with the growing possibility that he will be prosecuted after he leaves office, he will deal to avoid that, just as he would scrape off his financial obligations in bankruptcy.

Because of his f cked up father, the thing dump fears more than anything is being a loser. By talking up a fight and then working a deal, he'll try to avoid both prosecution and being forever stuck with the "loser" label. He'll settle for "victim" and "hero of the right."
 
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