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BC vs Wisconsin...for All the Marbles

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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
One of my everlasting memories of 2006 was the amazing class showed by Jerry York.

The crowd was ecstatic after the game. The Eagles were dejected and were about to head to the locker room when York stopped them dead in their tracks and made them come out on the ice and salute their fans.

A great gesture by York, and it shows the kind of character that he teaches that helps bring BC back every year.

That said... I sincerely hopes he has to do it again this year.
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Yes, me too. I felt bad for how long the Eagles had to stand there waiting for the handshake while the Badgers celebrated. A UW captain should have taken control of the situation.
 
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Gurtholfin said:
It didn't draw a penalty(and was a pretty tough looking hip check) and therefore had NO effect on the outcome of the game. You should be taken out back and shot for insinuating that there was some key dive by a Badger that caused you to lose that game. Seriously? :rolleyes:
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Exactly. I don't know what all the whining is about.

Also does anybody know which crew is doing the game? I'm hearing ECAC, but please god don't let it be true. Anybody but the ECAC will due.
 
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eaglehockeyrules said:
I am talking about my fellow alum, Mookie, not you. Chillax.
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Uh, where did I say that Wisco didn't deserve to win the game? They were the far better team. They *should* have thumped BC a lot worse.

I did say that a dive was a key moment to them winning, however.

And yes, it is a big deal to guys who like to see clean play (and I do not condone BC diving either) - faking like you have been shot and suddenly springing back up into the play leaves a very, very bad taste in my mouth . . . and I can't honestly remember seeing it any other time in college hockey.

Like I said, I would have loved to have had Don Cherry there in the booth to talk about it. Earl's move was pathetic and was definitely worse than your average everyday dive, IMO.
 
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RedFreak said:
Yes, me too. I felt bad for how long the Eagles had to stand there waiting for the handshake while the Badgers celebrated. A UW captain should have taken control of the situation.
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You are cruel so cruel :D
 
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J.D. said:
Semantics. He was talking about the injury embellishment (I think).
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Calling it a dive is far from semantics. When you cite a "dive" when talking about hockey, you are saying that the diver's team somehow benefitted from the nefarious act of diving. That they got a power play or a penalty shot out of it, neither of which happened.

First off, it wasn't a dive. The BC player laid a very solid hit on Earle. Second, we gained no advantage from Earle's alleged embellishment of the pain he was in other than maybe a little gamesmanship in playing possum.

The BC D should have picked him up even if his leg had fallen off.
 
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"Alleged embellishment?" You've got to be joking.

Don't worry, I've already tried to find video of it out there . . . I don't think it's available. So we have to debate based on our biased memories of the event.

There was definite and significant embellishment, says my own biased memory. Stuff like that is why I don't watch soccer.
 
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Mook is right. Hockey East grind it out style of play is superior come playoff time


Well at least now we have description of this "superior style" of play of Hockey East.

I do not agree that HEA "grind it out" is so superior, beyond chest thumping. I will say, if that Hockey East grind is so great... why haven't we won more titles as a league? I hope and wish that BC wins tomorrow night, but it is not up to me; we could very easily get our clocks cleaned tomorrow night, just as Wisconsin could.

I will say, that Miami was the team to beat in the semi-finals; RIT was there but they certainly were not ranked nor an annual powerhouse. RIT was the Cinderella story, who woke up not in a palace but a ghetto.

Is Miami is jinxed like UHN? :D
 
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Mook Williams said:
Uh, where did I say that Wisco didn't deserve to win the game? They were the far better team. They *should* have thumped BC a lot worse.

I did say that a dive was a key moment to them winning, however.

And yes, it is a big deal to guys who like to see clean play (and I do not condone BC diving either) - faking like you have been shot and suddenly springing back up into the play leaves a very, very bad taste in my mouth . . . and I can't honestly remember seeing it any other time in college hockey.

Like I said, I would have loved to have had Don Cherry there in the booth to talk about it. Earl's move was pathetic and was definitely worse than your average everyday dive, IMO.
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You are right, you did not say they did not deserve to win; however, you are implying they cheated because you perceive Wisconsin used the Gionta Rule.

Come on, brother, UW did not win on a dive. WE WERE OUTPLAYED ALL THREE PERIODS!!!
 
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Mook Williams said:
"Alleged embellishment?" You've got to be joking.

Don't worry, I've already tried to find video of it out there . . . I don't think it's available. So we have to debate based on our biased memories of the event.

There was definite and significant embellishment, says my own biased memory. Stuff like that is why I don't watch soccer.
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I just watched it a couple of days ago, as a matter of fact (I'm finally getting around to putting that game onto DVD). I do not think it was a dive, but we'll never agree on that. What I find amusing is your contention that BC lost the game by, what should we call it?, the "playing possum gambit".
 
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RedFreak said:
I just watched it a couple of days ago, as a matter of fact (I'm finally getting around to putting that game onto DVD). I do not think it was a dive, but we'll never agree on that. What I find amusing is your contention that BC lost the game by, what should we call it?, the "playing possum gambit".
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I have the game on tape and DvD as well, Mookie, if you want a copy of '08 and '01 send me an e-mail. I watch them often, while listening to "Glory Days" by Bruce Springsteen on a tape loop.
 
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Looking at the box score from that game, penalties really hurt BC late in the 3rd...

3rd Period (20:00)
WIS-5 Jake Dowell (2-Obstruction Cross-Checking) BC 0x3 0:50
BC-7 Nathan Gerbe (2-Interference) WIS 0x5 2:44
WIS-6 Andy Brandt (2-Hooking) BC 0x4 5:39
BC-8 Anthony Aiello (2-Hooking) WIS 1x6 8:34
BC-9 Tim Filangieri (2-Slashing) WIS 1x7 11:29
BC-10 Peter Harrold (2-Boarding) WIS 1x8 16:32

The ones after the go ahead goal certainly didn't help a comeback attempt!
 
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I'm uncertain of the Gionta Rule reference so I just googled it. Pointed right back to this thread.

Did I just rip a hole in the fabric of space-time? If so, my apologies. :o
 
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Mook Williams said:
"Alleged embellishment?" You've got to be joking.

Don't worry, I've already tried to find video of it out there . . . I don't think it's available. So we have to debate based on our biased memories of the event.

There was definite and significant embellishment, says my own biased memory. Stuff like that is why I don't watch soccer.
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You called it a dive without even referencing what play you were talking about.

There was a legitimate solid hit involved so it cannot possibly be a dive. In addition, your team was not called for a penalty, so once again, it cannot be a dive.
 
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned ice quality as a deciding factor. The puck was bouncing around Thursday night like a superball. At one point in the first period an RIT player nearly got a faceful! The Champ game is going to be tight (until I suspect an empty netter late) - a bouncy puck just could be a major game changer. The ice overall looked *****ty & I'm 12 rows off the end - I'm curious what the players have to say. They sure spent a lot of time last night fixing the ice.

That said, Miami may have been a top defensive team all season but their D sure was spectating from the ice Thursday night. Sure made BC look a lot better. And RIT was simply outclassed. I felt bad even doing the "Sieve" cheer in the 2nd period. And I was wondering if we could have gotten a running clock in the 3rd.

I predict a 1 goal game until late. 4-2 Badgers mainly based on their puck movement on the power play. I haven't seen their PP look that good in a long time. If ever.
 
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