BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Champs

[ibanezist00]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

You do realize that this information takes like 15 seconds to look up and actually get real information rather than make things up?

Per collegehockeyinc.com, which allows you to filter stats by date:

Since the Holy Cross game after which the top line was united, BC has scored 81 goals, of which 40 have been scored by Hayes (16), Gaudreau (15) or Arnold (9). That's 49.4%.

For the season at large - including before Gaudreau, Arnold and Hayes were united on the same line - those three have combined for 61 of BC's 136 goals, 44.8%.

So amazingly once again everyone who actually knows what they're talking about is right, what a shock. BC's scoring from lower lines is pretty comparable with scoring from other top teams, it's just the first line that's disproportionately good.

Ignore him. If it isn't something talking about how Union is awesome, he will slam you for it. Example: he said that Minnesota was a bigger under-performing and choking team than RPI.

And apparently, you looking at basic statistics now makes you poindexter. If anything, just take that as a complement.

$20 says he hasn't watched more than maybe one BC game this season.

 

[J.D.]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

"that's the percentage that matters obviously"

but then when that percentage doesn't add up to what he thinks, throw the stats out entirely! there is no bigger fraud on this board than hoky.

 

[joegrav]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

put the stats away poindexter and watch the games... one trick pony but a very good one at that. even the goals they don't score, they have their hand in something like 75% of all production. just look at what their ex line mates have done since being bumped.

one trick pony..

Wow, you really are missing chromosomes. Do you want to back up your assertion that "they have their hand in 75% of all production" with literally anything even remotely resembling a fact?

lol I guess being able to do a 15 second search and see how many goals they've scored means I don't watch the games. What a waste of all that season ticket money!!!!

 

[joegrav]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

just look at what their ex line mates have done since being bumped.

Here you go dingus:

Fitzgerald, Straight, Cangelosi, and Gilmour were the players who spent time playing with Gaudreau, Arnold and/or Hayes in the first 14 games of the season.

In those 14 games, they combined for 35 points (Fitzgerald 14, Cangelosi 11, Gilmour 7, Straight 3)..... 2.5 points per game

In the 17 games since the big line was put together, those four players have combined for 39 points in 17 games (Cangelosi 12, Fitzgerald 11, Straight 8, Gilmour 8) .... 2.29 points per game.

OMG .21 points per game!

 

[J.D.]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

one trick donkey. it's true because i say it is.

 

[ibanezist00]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

Here you go dingus:

Fitzgerald, Straight, Cangelosi, and Gilmour were the players who spent time playing with Gaudreau, Arnold and/or Hayes in the first 14 games of the season.

In those 14 games, they combined for 35 points (Fitzgerald 14, Cangelosi 11, Gilmour 7, Straight 3)..... 2.5 points per game

In the 17 games since the big line was put together, those four players have combined for 39 points in 17 games (Cangelosi 12, Fitzgerald 11, Straight 8, Gilmour 8) .... 2.29 points per game.

OMG .21 points per game!

(hoky)but when the stats dont bolster my flawed argument i throw them out entirely and call you a nerd (/hoky)

 

[Hokydad]

(hoky)but when the stats dont bolster my flawed argument i throw them out entirely and call you a nerd (/hoky)

hope they win....

just look at every boxcore since hc gm. shocking thd % you see the top kines names factored in

kns trick oony and now with a great lead driver in the goalue, which wss key to sort out

 

[joegrav]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

just look at every boxcore since hc gm.

Watch the games, nerd

The grand irony here is obviously that there's no way hokydad watches nearly as much BC hockey as anyone in this thread, given his busy schedule of scouting Duxbury Mite B games, hanging out with Brian Billett's parents, checking on BC's class registration records, being an expert on the USHL, inventing quotes by other posters, etc. So he's probably concocting a narrative about the BC hockey team based on news stories he's read about Gaudreau and Hayes and maybe watching a couple of games where those guys dominated.

 

[J.D.]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

that's the best part of all. he wants you to believe he regularly sees all the teams he comments about.

 

[ibanezist00]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

hope they win....

just look at every boxcore since hc gm. shocking thd % you see the top kines names factored in

kns trick oony and now with a great lead driver in the goalue, which wss key to sort out

What? I had an extremely difficult time parsing this. Holy moly.

For the 1,327th time, BC is not a one-trick pony. They've been solid in every aspect of the game all year, dropping a stink bomb or two here and there which happens to every team. Anyone who calls BC a one trick pony knows nothing about this sport.

Source: the 4 minutes it took for me to look over the stats and results of BC this season. My RPI-bred nerdiness strikes again I suppose.

 

[joegrav]

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that's the best part of all. he wants you to believe he regularly sees all the teams he comments about.

It would be basically impossible for him to speak with any sort of actual expertise about any of the things he posts about. I dedicate an inordinate amount of my life to watching college hockey and I can't say I've seen most teams more than 2 or 3 times and most good teams more than maybe 7 or 8 (maybe a little more for the B1G teams but only in bits and piece). Maybe Hoky has a special steel plate in his head that beams broadcasts of the East Coast PeeWee championship while he's in attendance at a Waterloo Blackhawks game.

 

[Hokydad]

What? I had an extremely difficult time parsing this. Holy moly.

For the 1,327th time, BC is not a one-trick pony. They've been solid in every aspect of the game all year, dropping a stink bomb or two here and there which happens to every team. Anyone who calls BC a one trick pony knows nothing about this sport.

Source: the 4 minutes it took for me to look over the stats and results of BC this season. My RPI-bred nerdiness strikes again I suppose.

opinions vary. just like when you wrote 75 posts attacking when I said Union was a far superior program vs RPI and would do better for the next 5 years, did so 4 years ago. and yes, you told me 1327 times that I was wrong.

BC is a one trick pony with a number one goalie now in hand. A very good one trick pony. Hockdy East is off, other teams focus on that lind and plan around it.

 

[joegrav]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

By the way, I don't know why I even bother, but I did actually just look at every box score from BC's winning streak. See (here) for links.

Here's how many goals featured either a goal or an assist from one of the big three. (Not even necessarily a goal where their line was on the ice -- it could be a power play, a shift change, or what have you.)

At Vermont: 3 out of 5
At Vermont: 1 / 4
vs. Northeastern: 2 / 4
vs. Merrimack: 3 / 6
vs. BU: 2 / 3
at Providence: 1 / 2
at Penn State: 3 / 3
at Merrimack: 1 / 4
vs. Maine: 6 / 7
vs. BU 2 / 6

So 24 out of 44 goals, or as Hoky would put it, "about 75%."

Dope (TM)

 

[ibanezist00]

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opinions vary. just like when you wrote 75 posts attacking when I said Union was a far superior program vs RPI and would do better for the next 5 years, did so 4 years ago. and yes, you told me 1327 times that I was wrong.

BC is a one trick pony with a number one goalie now in hand. A very good one trick pony. Hockdy East is off, other teams focus on that lind and plan around it.

And you reveal the root of your problem: you conflate "opinion" with "fact". I never said Union wasn't a superior program, we as the RPI fan base attacked you for your unnecessary vitriol based on your lack of ability to analyze the facts in front of you.

 

[Hokydad]

By the way, I don't know why I even bother, but I did actually just look at every box score from BC's winning streak. See (here) for links.

Here's how many goals featured either a goal or an assist from one of the big three. (Not even necessarily a goal where their line was on the ice -- it could be a power play, a shift change, or what have you.)

At Vermont: 3 out of 5
At Vermont: 1 / 4
vs. Northeastern: 2 / 4
vs. Merrimack: 3 / 6
vs. BU: 2 / 3
at Providence: 1 / 2
at Penn State: 3 / 3
at Merrimack: 1 / 4
vs. Maine: 6 / 7
vs. BU 2 / 6

So 24 out of 44 goals, or as Hoky would put it, "about 75%."

they have only played 10 games since HC game?

 

[ibanezist00]

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they have only played 10 games since HC game?

"Every game from BC's winning streak" -- since a tie against Brown.

This isn't hard:

http://www.uscho.com/scoreboard/boston-college/mens-hockey/2013-2014/

 

[Hokydad]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

Hockey East is way off. Teams focus 100% of energy trying to shut them down. Other lines greatly benefit by matching up vs their 3rd lines

Look at % of goals they have contributted to since HC game. if over 50%, wow. with that focus against it is amazing
kind of like Lombardi running same running play over and over again and saying, screw you....

one trick pony with a nice cast

wow, every team sending all best vs and cant stop.

 

[joegrav]

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they have only played 10 games since HC game?

My god you are an idiot. You obviously didn't look at the box scores you instructed everyone else to look at.

Brown 2 / 3
PC 3 / 4
ND 3 / 4
Penn State: 2 / 8
Bowling Green: 3 / 5
UNH: 2 / 2
UNH: 3 / 6

So 18 / 32 in those ones.
+ 24 out of 44 in the games in the winning streak =

42 out of 76 goals.

A little over half. Just like everyone has been saying all along.

 

[TonyTheTiger20]

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even the goals they don't score, they have their hand in something like 75% of all production.

just look at every boxcore since hc gm. shocking thd % you see the top kines names factored in

Okay, I did. All the way back to Holy Cross.

Gaudreau, Arnold, or Hayes were involved in 44 of the 77 goals. 57%. Not even remotely close to 75%. Maybe you're dyslexic?

And I'll go even further for you -- since Holy Cross, of the 39 goals that Gaudreau, Arnold, or Gaudreau have NOT scored, G A or H have been involved in only 6 (six) of them. 6 of 39.

What's next Hoky? We're just getting warmed up!

 

[joegrav]

Re: BC Hockey '13-'14: The Quest To Make Holy Cross Transitive Property National Cham

Okay, I did. All the way back to Holy Cross.

Gaudreau, Arnold, or Hayes were involved in 44 of the 77 goals. 57%. Not even remotely close to 75%. Maybe you're dyslexic?

And I'll go even further for you -- since Holy Cross, of the 39 goals that Gaudreau, Arnold, or Gaudreau have NOT scored, G A or H have been involved in only 6 (six) of them. 6 of 39.

What's next Hoky? We're just getting warmed up!

Hm I missed a goal and a point somewhere. I assume you are right and I missed one. Either way, lol hokydad