Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

[Kepler]

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Higher profile than Ferguson, where the DA put on a great defense for the cop before the grand jury and later was found to be helping the guy raise money?

The DA in the Ferguson case had an ax to grind.

Assume DAs will always do what's politically most attractive. In this case, I do not think anybody wants to see this guy get off -- the cops want him nailed to take the heat off them, anybody viewing that video is going to be convinced he's a murderer. I don't think even the Zimmerman knucks are going to crawl up into this guy's caboose.

The only thing he can hope for is a procedural error. He better have the ACLU on speed dial.

 

[SteveP]

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It's pretty amazing. My first reaction was, "this can't be real."

If that guy doesn't get Murder 1, we might as well just shut the whole thing down.

My reaction as well. Shocking isn't strong enough.

It appears that Mr. Scott's family are not ratcheting up the situation.

“They were sad,” Stewart, the family attorney, said in a telephone interview Tuesday evening from Scott’s mother’s home. “There is nothing that can bring their son and brother back, but they are relieved that charges were filed.”

Scott’s family members had gathered at the home on Tuesday evening, including Scott’s four children and three brothers. His family and attorneys held a brief news conference Tuesday night, saying that they planned to file a lawsuit against the city and police department.

“All we wanted was the truth, and through the process we’ve received the truth,” said Anthony Scott, Walter’s brother. “I don’t think that all police officers are bad cops, but there are some bad ones out there.”

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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There is not a single person defending the Charleston cop. Even his own police chief is pretty much wiping his hands of the man after viewing the video. The only person on his side is his attorney, and that guy has to be on his side to some extent or another.

Oh BTW, here's some proof in the form of "put your money where your mouth is" that what you say is untrue: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/michael-t-slager-support-fund

 

[MountieBoyOz]

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My reaction as well. Shocking isn't strong enough.

It appears that Mr. Scott's family are not ratcheting up the situation.

I always respect your opinion, Steve, since you were on the force for so many years. (Thank you, by the way.) I saw it and I barely could get through it. Just wow.

 

[Slap Shot]

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I don't know what the hell that cop was thinking. It's as if he pulled the trigger and then just couldn't stop. Fry him.

 

[TimP]

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No death penalty! Not even for this monster.

If anyone doesn't believe that white cops or wanna-be cops shooting unarmed, harmless Black men is a systemic issue, I don't know what to tell you. There is clearly a problem of institutionalized racism among police officers.

 

[St. Clown]

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Oh BTW, here's some proof in the form of "put your money where your mouth is" that what you say is untrue: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/michael-t-slager-support-fund

Excuse me, I should have articulated myself better. Nobody who matters, holds a position of true power, is defending the man. His department fired him and the DA has filed charges against him. His chief has thrown him to the wolves, as he should.

And as of the time of this post, that site has raised a whopping $181.

 

[Kepler]

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Excuse me, I should have articulated myself better. Nobody who matters, holds a position of true power, is defending the man. His department fired him and the DA has filed charges against him. His chief has thrown him to the wolves, as he should.

And as of the time of this post, that site has raised a whopping $181.

It's too bad the Comments are disabled, as I assume there would not be a single one that didn't use the n word.

 

[The Rube]

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I've been converted. Every cop in this country is bad. We live in a police state, in every sense of the phrase. They are on the take, randomly kill innocent people all the time, without question, and are basically rulers of this country, since they never get convicted. Ever.

I shall now leave this tripe of a thread.

 

[Priceless]

Excuse me, I should have articulated myself better. Nobody who matters, holds a position of true power, is defending the man. His department fired him and the DA has filed charges against him. His chief has thrown him to the wolves, as he should.

And as of the time of this post, that site has raised a whopping $181.

And if the video had never surfaced those same people would be telling us what a fine man he was and what a scum the deceased was. Both he and his partner gave statements that completely exonerated the cop. Any wonder that the police want to make it a crime to film them?

 

[5mn_Major]

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Perhaps 20% of about every group is a bit to very freaky. That includes police, blacks, Americans, foreigners, construction workers, ministers, school marms...every group. Some are louder about it than others. Some have more power than others.

This should not be a surprise.

 

[Handyman]

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And if the video had never surfaced those same people would be telling us what a fine man he was and what a scum the deceased was. Both he and his partner gave statements that completely exonerated the cop. Any wonder that the police want to make it a crime to film them?

I like the part where they both said they tried to keep him alive but the video shows them do nothing but take his pulse.

If there was no video it is all but guaranteed that the rhetoric is more pro cop...scary.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Excuse me, I should have articulated myself better. Nobody who matters, holds a position of true power, is defending the man. His department fired him and the DA has filed charges against him. His chief has thrown him to the wolves, as he should.

And as of the time of this post, that site has raised a whopping $181.

The DA has to file charges because that's his job. Doesn't mean he's going to get convicted. The DA could simply not object to suggestions of jury selection from the defence and "not try", resulting in a not guilty verdict.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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Well, it was bad before but with this incident the cop/public relations have been set back even further. Sad.

 

[St. Clown]

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The DA has to file charges because that's his job. Doesn't mean he's going to get convicted. The DA could simply not object to suggestions of jury selection from the defence and "not try", resulting in a not guilty verdict.

I would gladly send you a rubber check should the DA fail to get a conviction of at least manslaughter against this former officer. I'm expecting his partner to have charges filed against him for some sort of obstruction of justice charge, too, for filing a false report to corroborate the shooter's false report.

 

[Kepler]

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I like the part where they both said they tried to keep him alive but the video shows them do nothing but take his pulse.

If there was no video it is all but guaranteed that the rhetoric is more pro cop...scary.

It would have been interesting if the video had taken 3 or 4 days to surface. That would have given the usual suspects from the Echo Chamber enough time to bloviate about how the cop was a saint and the victim was (find something to slander him with or just make it up). Then when the video surfaced they would have all been out on a limb, and would probably have had to bluff it through.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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I would gladly send you a rubber check should the DA fail to get a conviction of at least manslaughter against this former officer. I'm expecting his partner to have charges filed against him for some sort of obstruction of justice charge, too, for filing a false report to corroborate the shooter's false report.

The only way I see a conviction happening, and this is based upon the Staten Island case, is if the PD's record of the interaction is subpeonaed and proved to be the cop killing the person, or if in the video now, you can make out an ID on the cop, like a badge number. In the Staten Island case, the defence was able to show reasonable doubt that it may not have been the cop in question, so he got off. Don't be surprised if the same thing happens here.

This is why Texas is pushing for a 25-foot "halo" around the cop for filming, because it's too far away, with current affordable resolutions, to make out the badge number (of course most of them hide their badges anyway for this reason), and so you cannot prove it was that cop.

 

[Priceless]

The only way I see a conviction happening, and this is based upon the Staten Island case, is if the PD's record of the interaction is subpeonaed and proved to be the cop killing the person, or if in the video now, you can make out an ID on the cop, like a badge number. In the Staten Island case, the defence was able to show reasonable doubt that it may not have been the cop in question, so he got off. Don't be surprised if the same thing happens here.

This is why Texas is pushing for a 25-foot "halo" around the cop for filming, because it's too far away, with current affordable resolutions, to make out the badge number (of course most of them hide their badges anyway for this reason), and so you cannot prove it was that cop.

That assumes the video is even allowed into evidence at trial.

 

[FreshFish]

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Oops....

The Law of Unintended Consequences strikes again!

As more police agencies equip officers with body cameras....authorities are discovering it creates problems of its own: how to process and store the mountains of video each department generates monthly.

While many inside and outside of law enforcement agree that body cameras help increase police transparency and may even improve police behavior, police departments and prosecutors are struggling with how to sift through, store and share the reams of visual evidence.

"The cameras themselves aren’t overly expensive, but the years and years of data storage you’re going to deal with—that can definitely be cost-prohibitive,” said Ms. Miller, senior research associate at the Police Executive Research Forum and co-author of a Justice Department report on the topic.

In Berkeley, Calif., local leaders are weighing whether to outfit its police force with cameras. Police estimate that it could cost up to $135,000 to buy 150 cameras at $900 a pop. But it could cost an additional $45,000 a year for a limited data-storage plan priced at $25 a month per camera—and police officials have raised the possibility of also hiring new employees to sift through all the video.

“One hundred-sixty officers wearing cameras will create an enormous amount of data. Who gets access to it? How does it get stored?” said Laurie Capitelli, a Berkeley City Council member. “What appeared to be a no brainer in terms of bringing accountability to the force has raised a lot ancillary questions.”

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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That assumes the video is even allowed into evidence at trial.

Not to mention, if the witness who recorded the video lives to testify. http://countercurrentnews.com/2015/04/man-who-recorded-walter-scott-speaks-out/