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Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

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It may be a conflation of the New Haven (I think) story of 20 years ago where they needed to meet a racial quota in their force and admitted black candidates with scores not only below rejected white candidates but also below the stated minimum requirement.

And we wonder why Black people distrust the cops? Even when Black people join the police force, thinking they'll protect and serve their community (lol), the whites do whatever they can to keep them down.
 
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About ten years ago, a cop pulled me over for speeding and had me stop on a highway off ramp. Scariest moment of my life. When he came over to the car I asked him, very politely, if we could move further down off the ramp, and he screamed at me "you stay right where I put you!" Never been so glad to be white.
 
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This thread. I love couching the character assassination of cops behind the claim they're only doing what they're told. Perhaps some of you need to do a ride a long.
 
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About ten years ago, a cop pulled me over for speeding and had me stop on a highway off ramp. Scariest moment of my life. When he came over to the car I asked him, very politely, if we could move further down off the ramp, and he screamed at me "you stay right where I put you!" Never been so glad to be white.

I've been pulled over 4-5 times in my life. Only once was a cop a jerkface. Of course, it was small town, a young cop, and I was an out-of-towner, with a carful of friends. Oh, and I was driving a car that had a Grateful Dead "Steal Your Face" logo covering the whole hood on my car. Along with other various (sometimes obscene) bumperstickers.

He pretty much took the "we don't like yer kind 'round here" attitude. The reason he pulled me over? My front license plate was on the dash, not affixed to the front bumper. And that was the only violation he could find. A simple fix-it ticket.

The other times? Various fix-it tickets (broken tail-light, etc). I have a clean record.
 
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This thread. I love couching the character assassination of cops behind the claim they're only doing what they're told. Perhaps some of you need to do a ride a long.

You're the one that's dumb enough to associate yourselves with idiots like these. When karma comes, it will be an eye for an eye.
 
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This thread. I love couching the character assassination of cops behind the claim they're only doing what they're told. Perhaps some of you need to do a ride a long.

You want to see cops get confused? My wife, the public defender, sometimes thanks them for doing their jobs correctly after she loses on motions to suppress. When they ask her why, she tells them it's because she's a resident of the area, too, and likes safe streets. I've seen her do it in person once; the cop's head nearly exploded.

She still knows plenty of cops that are grade A d-bags who will lie their asses off simply to get convictions, though.

As I've said on here before, the worst offenders are always at the lowest levels. The state patrol and county sheriffs almost always do things by the book. the town cops start to see some shady characters, and university police are mall cops with guns. She rarely if ever deals with the feds, but my guess would be they'd probably be at or above state patrol levels of following procedure correctly.
 
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I've known plenty of grade-A d-bags and borderline morons at every company I've worked, including UPS, Carlson Companies and my current outfit which also operates globally. And I'm not referring to the grunts, but middle management. But hey, let's start a thread for bad lawyers, bad truck drivers, bad BPO managers and bad stay at home moms, okay?

And for the record my abhorrence for this thread isn't personal. A guy I went to high school with and haven't spoken to outside of a class reunion is now a homicide cop in Minneapolis (high ranking, last guy you'd ever figure for the job as he went to Gustavus Adolphus not Mankato State...) and a friend has two nephews (that I've met twice) that are street cops in a NW Mpls Suburb. Beyond that there's no connection - but this thread is a disgusting pile of crap and I'm embarrassed for the regular contributors that are here to do more than simply discuss singular events.
 
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But hey, let's start a thread for bad lawyers, bad truck drivers, bad BPO managers and bad stay at home moms, okay?

No one is stopping you. However, those people do not have the power to arrest you, ruin your life - or simply kill you with little fear of punishment.

And for the record my abhorrence for this thread isn't personal. A guy I went to high school with and haven't spoken to outside of a class reunion is now a homicide cop in Minneapolis (high ranking, last guy you'd ever figure for the job as he went to Gustavus Adolphus not Mankato State...) and a friend has two nephews (that I've met twice) that are street cops in a NW Mpls Suburb. Beyond that there's no connection - but this thread is a disgusting pile of crap and I'm embarrassed for the regular contributors that are here to do more than simply discuss singular events.

Heaven forbid anyone draw a line from Event A to Event B to Event X and realize that there just might be a pattern.
 
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Heaven forbid anyone draw a line from Event A to Event B to Event X and realize that there just might be a pattern.

Actual political correctness is that you can't criticize cops or soldiers. And people will open up with the usual rhetorical tricks when you bring up the fact that some percentage of those folks are creeps, saying you're slandering them all or you should thank god they're protecting you blah blah. It's as if people's brains switch off when you talk about certain topics.

90% of cops and soldiers are probably fine, since that's the percentage of the general population that are fine. The 10% who are creeps are a real problem, because it's so easy for them to be homicidal with the tools we give them and the bureaucratic cover their organizations give them. There's nothing controversial about any of that, but it's really easy to wrap them up in the flag and score easy points.
 
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Actual political correctness is that you can't criticize cops or soldiers. And people will open up with the usual rhetorical tricks when you bring up the fact that some percentage of those folks are creeps, saying you're slandering them all or you should thank god they're protecting you blah blah. It's as if people's brains switch off when you talk about certain topics.

90% of cops and soldiers are probably fine, since that's the percentage of the general population that are fine. The 10% who are creeps are a real problem, because it's so easy for them to be homicidal with the tools we give them and the bureaucratic cover their organizations give them. There's nothing controversial about any of that, but it's really easy to wrap them up in the flag and score easy points.

And it's easy to wrap efforts to eviscerate the Fourth Amendment in the flag as well. That or call it a crusade against an evil personified as the boogeyman of the day.
 
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So, about 5000 cops reported overall. 100/per state. While it's still too much, I think it's safe to say that bad cops are in the vast minority.

It's also a five year old report. There's much more exposure today than there was at that time.
 
I've known plenty of grade-A d-bags and borderline morons at every company I've worked, including UPS, Carlson Companies and my current outfit which also operates globally. And I'm not referring to the grunts, but middle management. But hey, let's start a thread for bad lawyers, bad truck drivers, bad BPO managers and bad stay at home moms, okay?

And for the record my abhorrence for this thread isn't personal. A guy I went to high school with and haven't spoken to outside of a class reunion is now a homicide cop in Minneapolis (high ranking, last guy you'd ever figure for the job as he went to Gustavus Adolphus not Mankato State...) and a friend has two nephews (that I've met twice) that are street cops in a NW Mpls Suburb. Beyond that there's no connection - but this thread is a disgusting pile of crap and I'm embarrassed for the regular contributors that are here to do more than simply discuss singular events.

Doesn't it suck when people use a broad brush to paint an entire group of people based on the actions of a few?
 
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Doesn't it suck to have a comeback that's completely irrelevant?

I saw Keps flag wrapping retort. Pretty sure I'm not your guy. And while I'll never be a black man dealing with a cop I've had hs and college parties get out of control, taken a breathalyzer, been pulled over in a college town in my then red Audi GT Coupe with deadhead stickers, a doctored "Kato State Man" sticker on the window and dime bags, experienced the, "you're not from around here?" moment, been talked to tripping balls at a concert at Alpine Valley without incident, been pulled over in a stolen vehicle driven by someone I didn't know very well that could have been really ugly, etc.

While none of that compares to getting shot at, I never frequented street corners, never stole (not even petty shoplifting) never assaulted anyone and never gestured toward any cop in any way ever. My dad told me when I was learning to drive have your papers ready and your hands on the wheel when he reaches that window. You want to learn about dealing with crooked cops try Uruguay, Bahrain, Morocco, Thailand and the Philippines and get back to me.

And lest anyone not understand me, again I don't walk on anyone else's shoes and I'll probably never again be profiled in US. But this relationship on the streets cuts both ways and while the cops need to improve their approach, how many other incidents could have been avoided had the "victim" chose differently? Not talking about events like the one in Cleveland or NY of course. When you have so many people that assume every single engagement with a cop is going to turn out badly what mindset do you think it puts the cop into?

Never once has the discussion here been about what communities under siege can do to also reach across that aisle, it's that cops are morons coked up on testosterone ready to bully everyone they come across because it gives them an even bigger woody than sleeping with their shotgun. But nope the rhetoric and blame goes one way only and only by completely erasing negligent cops from the streets will the relationships improve, street level racial profiling won't be necessary, and all the people on the street making bad decisions that make it worse for everyone else will magically change their ways.

Thank you Pricelss, thank you.
 
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