Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

[Kepler]

Re: Bad Cop, Bad Cop, Whatcha gonna do?

Lol. Yeah, they're concerned with a guy who hasn't been in the limelight for a decade getting a speeding ticket.

I take it you don't look at the People-type mags when you're grocery shopping. They run stories about celebs I thought were dead.

 

[Handyman]

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If he was going 85 in a 50 it would have gone viral and he probably wouldnt go public about it. It kinda makes your story look less important if you are breaking the law all the time...

You guys realize that you can agree cops do bad things from time to time (even act racist) and it wont change your narrative at all right? Going all in on snark because you support the cops only makes you look like you have your head in the sand. Even if you believe the majority of the stories nowadays are B.S. (I doubt they are but for arguments sake) there is still plenty then that are true and it is becoming an alarming pattern.

BTW it isnt like Chris Rock is the only black celebrity who has gone public about being pulled over for no reason for DWB...I am sure they are hiding something too though cause cops never lie and you can never trust a black man! (you arent the only ones who can use snark to be dismissive )

What is Chris Rock's agenda exactly?

 

[Kepler]

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If he was going 85 in a 50 it would have gone viral and he probably wouldnt go public about it. It kinda makes your story look less important if you are breaking the law all the time...

You guys realize that you can agree cops do bad things from time to time (even act racist) and it wont change your narrative at all right? Going all in on snark because you support the cops only makes you look like you have your head in the sand. Even if you believe the majority of the stories nowadays are B.S. (I doubt they are but for arguments sake) there is still plenty then that are true and it is becoming an alarming pattern.

Well said.

If I were black, I'd be **** sure to have a dashcam and maybe an inside cam. If a cop plants drugs on you you aren't going to win the case unless you have rock solid evidence, and you are going to prison. I have flood insurance for the same reason: very low odds times catastrophic consequences still equals high expected value.

You can support the cops in general, even find them admirable, and still admit that whites and blacks live in two different worlds. Even if you assume all cops are angels, the systemic racism that blacks face every moment is something you have to actually observe (watching a black friend get patted down while you're left alone; watching a store manager follow your friend at a discrete distance; seeing somebody ask for secondary ID -- something that's never happened to me in my life) to be understood.

It's possible that the people who protest that blacks don't face significant racism anymore JUST DON'T KNOW. It's even probable, since they often overlap with people who are very concerned with civil liberties in general. It is ironic that the people who see black helicopters everywhere, when faced with a real instance of pervasive government, corporate and private abuse, have their eyes shut.

 

[Handyman]

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I would like it noted that I didnt say "White Cops" because we have seen plenty of cops of all colors and backgrounds pulling shady crap

 

[Kepler]

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It would like it noted that I didnt say "White Cops" because we have seen plenty of cops of all colors and backgrounds pulling shady crap.

That's important, too. (You're on a roll. )

There are likely a few racist cops who pull blacks over because "blacks are animals." But no more than there are racist Braves relievers. The real issue is that race and wealth correlate (due to racism), and poor people are always the target of abuse by authorities because they are at least perceived to be (and almost certainly are in fact) more likely to commit crime (because, duh, they're poor).

I don't think cops are targeting blacks. I think cops are targeting the poor, and skin color is used as a handy shortcut.

 

[Kepler]

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That's racist. Crap, I'm white. What I just said was racist. Just because.

It's part of our culture.

 

[Priceless]

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Lol. Yeah, they're concerned with a guy who hasn't been in the limelight for a decade getting a speeding ticket.

I reread the article and it said he was zipping around in an orange Lamborghini. Yeah...

I know reading comprehension is difficult, so I copied the relevant part of the article. See if you can figure out the multiple mistakes you've made.

In a 2013 episode of Jerry Seinfeld's "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee," Rock joked about his apparent frequent encounters with traffic police after the duo was pulled over while zipping along a highway in an orange 1969 Lamborghini Miura.

"Now here's the crazy thing, if you weren't here, I'd be scared," Rock chuckled to Seinfeld, who was driving.

 

[theprofromdover]

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Lol. Yeah, they're concerned with a guy who hasn't been in the limelight for a decade getting a speeding ticket.

I reread the article and it said he was zipping around in an orange Lamborghini. Yeah...

Do you ever have anything meaningful to contribute?

 

[MinnesotaNorthStar]

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You guys realize that you can agree cops do bad things from time to time (even act racist) and it wont change your narrative at all right? Going all in on snark because you support the cops only makes you look like you have your head in the sand. Even if you believe the majority of the stories nowadays are B.S. (I doubt they are but for arguments sake) there is still plenty then that are true and it is becoming an alarming pattern.

You do realize, again, that nobody has said anything different. There are bad cops. There are racist cops who pull people over for DWB. The all in on snark and hyperbole is in response to posts like this:

It's a relief to know there are no bad cops out there.

that go all in on snark and hyperbole.

You seem to have a selective memory.

 

[The Rube]

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There are bad cops out there. It is my opinion that (besides being one of the hot topics of the month) we hear stories about bad cops because they make up the minority of the force, and therefore it is newsworthy. Kind of like plane crashes vs car accidents. A plane crashes? It's national news, if not world news. If a car crashes? Highly doubtful you even hear about it on the local news.

 

[dxmnkd316]

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I know reading comprehension is difficult, so I copied the relevant part of the article. See if you can figure out the multiple mistakes you've made.

Wow. You really are a snarky a hole. It was a simple mistake.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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There are bad cops out there. It is my opinion that (besides being one of the hot topics of the month) we hear stories about bad cops because they make up the minority of the force, and therefore it is newsworthy. Kind of like plane crashes vs car accidents. A plane crashes? It's national news, if not world news. If a car crashes? Highly doubtful you even hear about it on the local news.

Keep believing the lies that the government media complex gives you. Bad cops are the rule, not the exception. More people have been killed by a cop in the US in March ALONE than in the UK since 1900!

 

[Kepler]

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Keep believing the lies that the government media complex gives you. Bad cops are the rule, not the exception.

Source?

Even if cops doing bad was the rule (and it isn't), that wouldn't mean the cops themselves were bad -- the cops don't decide policy, they implement it. In the same way that Vietnam wasn't the soldiers' fault, much of the brutality inflicted on the poor by the cops is not the cops' fault -- it is a (deliberate) consequence of a legal structure designed to increase the property and privileges of the wealthy regardless of the cost to everyone else. ("Come see the violence inherent in the system.")

Like soldiers, most cops are working class Joes with basic education, average intelligence and little imagination or inclination to do either good or bad. They are, in short, exactly the same as average people in every profession from commerce to clergy. They're boring, but they're not bad. They can only do good if the laws are good, or bad if the laws are bad. They're hammers. The fault lies with those who wield the hammer.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Source?

Even if cops doing bad was the rule (and it isn't), that wouldn't mean the cops themselves were bad -- the cops don't decide policy, they implement it. In the same way that Vietnam wasn't the soldiers' fault, much of the brutality inflicted on the poor by the cops is not the cops' fault -- it is a (deliberate) consequence of a legal structure designed to increase the property and privileges of the wealthy regardless of the cost to everyone else. ("Come see the violence inherent in the system.")

Like soldiers, most cops are working class Joes with basic education, average intelligence and little imagination or inclination to do either good or bad. They are, in short, exactly the same as average people in every profession from commerce to clergy. They're boring, but they're not bad. They can only do good if the laws are good, or bad if the laws are bad. They're hammers. The fault lies with those who wield the hammer.

First off, if you're too smart, you can't become a cop. Secondly, we have seen time and time again that "good cops" who expose corruption are subsequently sacked. There is no such thing as a good cop anymore, and if there is, they're in the closet. They are doing everything they can to try to cover up the corruption that modern technology has exposed, and the evidence is even dismissed in the courts. If a cop comes up to you, it is safe to assume that you will die that day at the cop's hands, and the cop will see zero repercussions because he/she is the victim, and the dead is the assailant. Consider yourself incredibly lucky if you are still alive.

 

[unofan]

Source?

Even if cops doing bad was the rule (and it isn't), that wouldn't mean the cops themselves were bad -- the cops don't decide policy, they implement it. In the same way that Vietnam wasn't the soldiers' fault, much of the brutality inflicted on the poor by the cops is not the cops' fault -- it is a (deliberate) consequence of a legal structure designed to increase the property and privileges of the wealthy regardless of the cost to everyone else. ("Come see the violence inherent in the system.")

Like soldiers, most cops are working class Joes with basic education, average intelligence and little imagination or inclination to do either good or bad. They are, in short, exactly the same as average people in every profession from commerce to clergy. They're boring, but they're not bad. They can only do good if the laws are good, or bad if the laws are bad. They're hammers. The fault lies with those who wield the hammer.

I would disagree only to the extent that cops attract a certain personality that is less prevalent in other positions based on the job description and given the power they wield. Not all cops have that personality, but I would guess it has more than its share of grade A jerkoffs when compared to the population as a whole.

Plus, there's always the random stories like the cops in Connecticut 10 years ago or so who "failed" their examination by scoring too well on it. Makes you wonder what other selection biases are out there.

 

[Kepler]

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I would disagree only to the extent that cops attract a certain personality that is less prevalent in other positions based on the job description and given the power they wield. Not all cops have that personality, but I would guess it has more than its share of grade A jerkoffs when compared to the population as a whole.

Plus, there's always the random stories like the cops in Connecticut 10 years ago or so who "failed" their examination by scoring too well on it. Makes you wonder what other selection biases are out there.

Violent professions do attract violent people, that's true. But my impression of the larger departments is that they try and weed out the psychos, because they generate a ton of paperwork. It's likely true that policing attracts authoritarians (I would guess, for example, that most cops are Republicans). But again, a well-trained guard dog, regardless of breed, only bites when its master says bite.

I assume the CT story is an urban legend. It may be a conflation of the New Haven (I think) story of 20 years ago where they needed to meet a racial quota in their force and admitted black candidates with scores not only below rejected white candidates but also below the stated minimum requirement.

 

[unofan]

But again, a well-trained guard dog, regardless of breed, only bites when its master says bite.

I assume the CT story is an urban legend. It may be a conflation of the New Haven (I think) story of 20 years ago where they needed to meet a racial quota in their force and admitted black candidates with scores not only below rejected white candidates but also below the stated minimum requirement.

On the latter, http://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/09/n...rules-that-police-can-bar-high-iq-scores.html

On the former, I think cops get away with far more than the masters would allow in the light of day. Just because they're on a proverbial leash doesn't mean they don't have independent thoughts or actions.

 

[FlagDUDE08]

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Violent professions do attract violent people, that's true. But my impression of the larger departments is that they try and weed out the psychos, because they generate a ton of paperwork. It's likely true that policing attracts authoritarians (I would guess, for example, that most cops are Republicans). But again, a well-trained guard dog, regardless of breed, only bites when its master says bite.

I assume the CT story is an urban legend. It may be a conflation of the New Haven (I think) story of 20 years ago where they needed to meet a racial quota in their force and admitted black candidates with scores not only below rejected white candidates but also below the stated minimum requirement.

They pushed for quotas in Buffalo as well.

One thing that is true, though, is that the percentage of "solved" murder and rape mysteries are down, because police departments are too busy breaking into houses without warrants, flash bombing babies, and planting drugs to get mandatory minimums.

 

[Kepler]

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They pushed for quotas in Buffalo as well.

Not the worst thing in the world. If the police don't have the support of the local population, they are no longer police -- they're an occupation. I'm sure White America would be totally at ease with an all-black police force.

 

[mookie1995]

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Not the worst thing in the world. If the police don't have the support of the local population, they are no longer police -- they're an occupation. I'm sure White America would be totally at ease with an all-black police force.

of course