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B1G Championship in Detroit

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Because 'they rent out their arena' is not the reason 'they would never be able to host'. ;)
Nationwide Arena, the Blue Jackets venue and the Value City Arena, OSU's venue are managed together in a partnership group.
It would be nice if the Blue Jackets schedule could be managed to leave Nationwide available for OSU playoff games if Value City wasn't available if a host team playoff system was adopted.
However playing at NHL arenas instead of on campus arenas is probably one reason ticket prices are so high.
 
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So, is ANYONE else from the board coming? I know the seat selection seems to have sold well, so the stadium won't be empty.
 
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Still, it's not about the location, except that it's a "B1G Championship" that can be shown on TV. There's enough money there that it does not matter if they sell out. Which, to me, is further reason why they should consider Pittsburg and Columbus, too. Heck, even the Bradley center should be an option since they don't care how many show up.
Well played, very well played. :)
 
Still, it's not about the location, except that it's a "B1G Championship" that can be shown on TV. There's enough money there that it does not matter if they sell out. Which, to me, is further reason why they should consider Pittsburg and Columbus, too. Heck, even the Bradley center should be an option since they don't care how many show up.

That's what I said too let each team get the tournament close to home
 
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It does make sense to do a rotation with the tourney close enough each year to a conference host school so each year at least one team's fans don't have to travel far.
 
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It does make sense to do a rotation with the tourney close enough each year to a conference host school so each year at least one team's fans don't have to travel far.
Why don't OSU fans travel to regular season home games whenever I see them on TV?
 
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Why don't OSU fans travel to regular season home games whenever I see them on TV?

The REAL question is why do any Badger fans travel to regular season home games, or simpler, why would anyone be a Bad-ger fan?
 
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There aren't any OSU fans. C'mon. Lets stick to facts.
The lack of commitment by OSU to seriously back the program for years and years has caused a stunted dedicated fan base for OSU hockey.
The greedy bastar*s pis*ed off a lot of people for years by kicking the team out of their arena come playoff time to host the State high school wrestling tournament because of the money it brought in. How is THAT for being seriously committed to taking care of your program?
They have in the past 5 years started to make a better effort with the program starting by when they went to hire Osieki they increased the base pay from about 100 grand a year to the 225-250 range so they could get a half decent coach.
Rohlik is a very good coach but it will just take time - and winning to get people's interest up.
I've been around the program since it's official beginning back in 1963 but I'm getting too old myself to travel long distances.
 
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The lack of commitment by OSU to seriously back the program for years and years has caused a stunted dedicated fan base for OSU hockey.
The greedy bastar*s pis*ed off a lot of people for years by kicking the team out of their arena come playoff time to host the State high school wrestling tournament because of the money it brought in. How is THAT for being seriously committed to taking care of your program?
They have in the past 5 years started to make a better effort with the program starting by when they went to hire Osieki they increased the base pay from about 100 grand a year to the 225-250 range so they could get a half decent coach.
Rohlik is a very good coach but it will just take time - and winning to get people's interest up.
I've been around the program since it's official beginning back in 1963 but I'm getting too old myself to travel long distances.

Ok, ok, so there might be 3 or 4. ;)
 
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The lack of commitment by OSU to seriously back the program for years and years has caused a stunted dedicated fan base for OSU hockey.
The greedy bastar*s pis*ed off a lot of people for years by kicking the team out of their arena come playoff time to host the State high school wrestling tournament because of the money it brought in. How is THAT for being seriously committed to taking care of your program?
They have in the past 5 years started to make a better effort with the program starting by when they went to hire Osieki they increased the base pay from about 100 grand a year to the 225-250 range so they could get a half decent coach.
Rohlik is a very good coach but it will just take time - and winning to get people's interest up.
I've been around the program since it's official beginning back in 1963 but I'm getting too old myself to travel long distances.
This is just my humble .02 but I think it hurts the perception of your team and it certainly seems to hurt the atmosphere playing in that big, empty arena. Anything in the works/talks for a hockey only facility on campus?
 
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This is just my humble .02 but I think it hurts the perception of your team and it certainly seems to hurt the atmosphere playing in that big, empty arena. Anything in the works/talks for a hockey only facility on campus?

IMHO, unless someone with the last name of Meyer said that OSU should put some reasonable money into hockey- it ain't going to happen.

At least he can make sure hockey is of just barely less importance than BB is- which would help scheduling of the schott. And then really upgrade the old rink to be a worthwhile home rink to the women as well as a first class practice facility for the men.

But, based on what I saw here in AA, they first need to win more often. That will bring in fans, and then those alumni will intereact with the team and coaches to start funding the program. OSU could deal with an injection like PSU got, but it's been around so long that they need to build with what they have before anyone is going to do that.

(for reference, Yost's first real upgrade was after the '96 season- a full 5 years after the NCAA streak started, and 3 Frozen Four appearences in there- knowing how popular hockey used to be in Columbus- IMHO, 5 good solid NCAA apperences in a row would go a long way)
 
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You'd think OSU would just be embarassed enough to do something. A team that's 2 yrs old is already passing them by.
 
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You'd think OSU would just be embarassed enough to do something. A team that's 2 yrs old is already passing them by.

As with any school, there are the ones who care and are embarassed, and the ones who can do something about it. The key is getting enough of them to be the same people.

From a school where football is king, seeing the perspective in Columbus, that is very much a bigger kingdom there.

I know Woody Hayes used to go to hockey games- I saw him there. That didn't change anything in the 70's. Had moved away by the time the 1980 olympics happened, but even after that, the rink I used to play at was gone by the early 80's (when we went back to visit). It's a different sports culture there.
 
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I like our arena, it's the only NHL size college arena out there.
If we become a winning program I see us selling 10,000 tickets a game.
They are promoting group sales heavily and hockey is growing in central Ohio as a sport. However a lot of the focus for hockey here is on the Blue Jokers (I'm a Wings fan) and when they have a home game the same night as us there is a smaller crowd for OSU games.
But I also agree with Alfablue, winning brings the fans but I think the students should be more active in coming to support their team.
 
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I like our arena, it's the only NHL size college arena out there.
If we become a winning program I see us selling 10,000 tickets a game.
They are promoting group sales heavily and hockey is growing in central Ohio as a sport. However a lot of the focus for hockey here is on the Blue Jokers (I'm a Wings fan) and when they have a home game the same night as us there is a smaller crowd for OSU games.
But I also agree with Alfablue, winning brings the fans but I think the students should be more active in coming to support their team.

What good is having an NHL sized arena when,
a) There is already an NHL arena in Columbus
b) 10,000 fans still isn't close to filling it up
c) Even Minnesota and NoDak cap at 10-11k
 
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I could write a small book on the issues facing the OSU program, and what I think should be done in response to them. As for what's been posted so far: I agree in part, disagree in part. But all of that is really a topic for another day.

The question relevant to this thread is: Should Columbus/OSU host a B1G tourney at some point in the future? My reply would be to look at likely attendance, and ask fans of the other five schools if that's a result they want.

Buckeye Football, if in season, is going to seriously impact attendance for hockey, whether the FB team is playing at home or not. But FB is a non-issue in March. Another small plus is that B1G opponents will always draw a little better than most non-conference teams. (BG & MU being obvious exceptions) So let's look at conference games, after FB season is truly over. 6,000 fans is a fairly typical crowd. IMHO, it breaks down into four roughly equal groups:

OSU Hockey Fanbase
1. Long time fans who have been with team since the Ice Rink days, through thick & thin.
2. More recent fans who are currently regulars. Includes the small but hearty band of current students.
3. OSU Sports fans who aren't really Hockey people, but who have trouble affording/gaining access to FB or BB tickets.
4. Families with kids, especially if there are youth hockey players in the families.

So Who's Going to a B1G tourney in Columbus?
1. Long-timers? Yes. +1,500
2. More Recent Regulars? Mostly Yes, but remember the Students are on Spring Break. +1,000
3. Fans of Buckeye Sports Across the Board? Nope. Vast majority will be caught up in other sports events, particularly NCAA Hoops. +100
4. Families? Prices go up, Families stay away. Youth Hockey is done for the year. The best hockey families may show. +300
5. Causal Hockey Fans? They weren't on the original list; casual fans follow the NHL & the CBJ. A few of the most knowledgeable will cross over. +300

Total Expected Local Crowd = 3,200.

Even with most of the Upper Bowl curtained off, there would be 10,000 seats to fill. So by my guesstimate -- which if anything is a little optimistic -- locals will fill up 1/3 of the Lower Bowl. Are visiting fans going to cover any significant portion of the difference? Doubtful. Remember that Columbus is the Anti-New York. A great place to live, but you wouldn't want to visit.:o

So you'd likely sell around 5,000 tournament packages in total, with no-shows being an issue at the afternoon games and any non-Buckeye game. The Schott would be half-empty, and even that's assuming one is able to forget about the seats behind the curtains.

But you know what? Although the reasons would be different, I'm guessing that would be the crowd size in any of the potential cities that aren't named St. Paul or Detroit. If you really want to rotate the tourney around, our numbers would do OK in comparison to Pittsburgh and Chicago. But if better crowds are the goal, we need to stick with the college hockey hotbeds. In that regard, the new Red Wings building can't come soon enough.

Disclaimer: I didn't crunch any numbers in preparing this post; I just based it on my informal observations from over the years. But I bet my numbers are pretty close.

EDIT: Or maybe 3,500 packages. See Post #129.
 
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