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Atlantic Hockey Summer News

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No mention of hockey, but UConn and SportsNet New York (SNY) have signed a three year deal to broadcast Husky football and men's basketball games. I wonder if they could eventually get some of the UConn hockey games on too. It would be great exposure for the program/league.
The deal, according to SNY officials, will give UConn games the potential to be seen by nearly 9 million households in the tri-state area and more than 12 million nationwide.
 
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First and foremost who mentioned anything about Boston? My contention was (and still is) that the Atantic Hockey Association is a conference clearly on the rise and that perhaps the conference might benefit by staging its conference championship tournament at a venue within close proximity to the six (6) league members located within or close to New England.

There was no suggestion that the conference should forever forgo Rochester, N.Y. as a host city. All that was suggested was (and is) that maybe on an every-other-year basis the championship tournament be moved east to accommodate those schools (and their fans) who are not located within the Rochester, N.Y. area.

I know that perhaps to those who like Rochester, N.Y., what with its train station, hotels, and some place called "Dinosaur BBQ", that my words might seem blasphemous (for who would not want to go to a place that is best described as being "[not] such a bad place" <--- talk about ****ing a place with faint praise). However, AHA members here in New England (especially here in Massachusetts) are up against some stiff competition. UMass-Amherst, UMass-Lowell, B.U., B.C., and UNH all play in modern high capacity venues while AHA members continue to "slum it" in antiquated rinks. I realize that attendance at AHA games here in the east is modest (at best), but unless you start sharing the wealth a bit and start cultivating some interest in the league the AHA will continue to play "third fiddle" to Hockey East and the ECAC here in New England.

You hit the nail on the head for WHY the AHA championship should BE in Rochester - it is against stiff competition in NE. There isn't such competition in Rochester. The AHA would get top billing in the region. Granted, it does help that RIT brings in the attendace, and Niagara will also boost attendance should they make it to the AHA Frozen Four.
 
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No mention of hockey, but UConn and SportsNet New York (SNY) have signed a three year deal to broadcast Husky football and men's basketball games. I wonder if they could eventually get some of the UConn hockey games on too. It would be great exposure for the program/league.

Bob... you'd have to realize how UConn runs... and further what SNY is looking for. I find it unlikely they will be looking for hockey... SNY is hooked into Rutgers and UConn (to Syracuse's fuming... heh). I won't lapse into the usual UConn hockey rant... but i find it interesting that they have an interest in picking up UConn baseball broadcasts.

There is some speculation that this is SNY's attempt to become a year-round channel.

In general, great for UConn, great for UConn football which needs a stronger local anchoring (UConn football fans complain about the lack of a foothold in Fairfield County and that CT/NY corner). I don't think it does much for hockey.
 
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I realize that attendance at AHA games here in the east is modest (at best), but unless you start sharing the wealth a bit and start cultivating some interest in the league the AHA will continue to play "third fiddle" to Hockey East and the ECAC here in New England.

Sorry, but the only way to cultivate interest is to have Bentley, UConn, AIC, and Holy Cross start performing better in-league. (Sacred Heart's done okay for itself lately.) Holding the championship out there isn't going to do squat for attendance if SHU is the only New England team in the final four.


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What about having the tournament in Syracuse? Still close to the more involved fans (Niagara and RIT), and closer for the eastern schools. Similar arena to Blue Cross, maybe even smaller. But most of all Syracuse is a college town, they like college sports. Thoughts?
 
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Rochester is the best choice for the league playoffs but it should not be considered the only choice. I think the Arena in Bridgeport, Connecticut would be an excellent location to hold it every few years as well. It is away from the Hockey East area and is home to league member Sacred Heart so it would have an Atlantic Hockey distinctive flair to it. Air Force should get to host once a decade as well. There are plenty of college hockey fans in Colorado that could be swayed to attend especially if CC or Denver is not playing that weekend. Springfield, Massachusetts would be another good host location. The MAAC basketball conference which includes Niagara and Canisius will be going there soon so why not for hockey as well?
 
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Springfield, Massachusetts would be another good host location. The MAAC basketball conference which includes Niagara and Canisius will be going there soon so why not for hockey as well?

Sure, if you don't mind a crowd under 1,500 for your championship game.


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That's not complaining.


THAT's complaining.

No, but this is:

Why does the AHA have to put up with a school with a bunch of self-inflated accounting majors who play in a barn that's perpetually at 36-degrees and have never even sniffed a championship?

Now THAT'S complaining.
 
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You hit the nail on the head for WHY the AHA championship should BE in Rochester - it is against stiff competition in NE. There isn't such competition in Rochester. The AHA would get top billing in the region. Granted, it does help that RIT brings in the attendace, and Niagara will also boost attendance should they make it to the AHA Frozen Four.

The ECAC Championship is in Altantic City... the appeal of Rochester is RIT and Niagara. Beyond that, its farce. We're not building around western NY, we just happen to know the RIT fans will show up in numbers. Otherwise, if all partners were equally supported, the championships would be in either Springfield or Worcester or even alternating sites.
 
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First and foremost who mentioned anything about Boston? My contention was (and still is) that the Atantic Hockey Association is a conference clearly on the rise and that perhaps the conference might benefit by staging its conference championship tournament at a venue within close proximity to the six (6) league members located within or close to New England.

There was no suggestion that the conference should forever forgo Rochester, N.Y. as a host city. All that was suggested was (and is) that maybe on an every-other-year basis the championship tournament be moved east to accommodate those schools (and their fans) who are not located within the Rochester, N.Y. area.

I know that perhaps to those who like Rochester, N.Y., what with its train station, hotels, and some place called "Dinosaur BBQ", that my words might seem blasphemous (for who would not want to go to a place that is best described as being "[not] such a bad place" <--- talk about ****ing a place with faint praise). However, AHA members here in New England (especially here in Massachusetts) are up against some stiff competition. UMass-Amherst, UMass-Lowell, B.U., B.C., and UNH all play in modern high capacity venues while AHA members continue to "slum it" in antiquated rinks. I realize that attendance at AHA games here in the east is modest (at best), but unless you start sharing the wealth a bit and start cultivating some interest in the league the AHA will continue to play "third fiddle" to Hockey East and the ECAC here in New England.

So have you been to the tournament or not? If you're not willing to drive to Rochester once, why should we expect you and your wallet to show up in Worcester, Bridgeport or Albany?

Maybe when the New England schools start making regular trips to the tournament, the league will think about moving it over that way. But as long as RIT, Air Force and Mercyhurst are taking up three of the four slots, it's fine where it is.

Air Force should get to host once a decade as well. There are plenty of college hockey fans in Colorado that could be swayed to attend especially if CC or Denver is not playing that weekend.

CC and DU, if they're playing, would be in St. Paul the weekend of the AHA Championship. But I don't think Colorado Springs would ever host. You'd have to make sure the Trans-Siberian Orchestra wasn't already booked at the World Arena, and it's just unfair to make teams (and their fans) travel half-way across the country. Plus, if , for some reason, Air Force didn't make it, you'd be even worse off than somewhere in New England!
 
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Who really cares where it is. Someone's gonna complain. I could rag on every city mentioned, but what is the big deal. Plan a five day vacation, and if your team makes it to the AHA tourney, go. If not, head somewhere warm!
Hockey is supposed to be enjoyable, especially college hockey, where most of the players bust their asses off and give us something better to watch live than overpriced professional hockey.
 
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Hawaii!, that's where they should have the tournament!

Warm tropical breezes, bright white or black sandy beaches!

A short hop from anywhere and think of the plentiful frequent flyer miles.

But then how could I get my Ted's hot dogs in Buffalo?
 
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The ECAC Championship is in Altantic City... the appeal of Rochester is RIT and Niagara. Beyond that, its farce. We're not building around western NY, we just happen to know the RIT fans will show up in numbers. Otherwise, if all partners were equally supported, the championships would be in either Springfield or Worcester or even alternating sites.

This is a great point. The AHA will likely go where the money goes. And right now, Rochester is a great spot for the tournament right now because it is arguably the best college hockey city in the conference.
 
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Air Force finished high enough that year BECAUSE they won the AHA tournament. A loss would have dropped them too far to get an at large.

That is the real "issue". The elite conference teams cannot afford to lose many conference games to have a chance for the at large.

Isn't that what I said???? :D

I think you could have the tourament in another location because many RIT fans will travel there for it. If RIT is not in it and the closest host team or teams are out than it will get ugly money wise. The Atlantic really needs more teams that travel well. Niagara is a nice addition at home, but they are not known to travel all that much and mostly have a local following, student support almost exclusively goes to the Basketball team. Pains me to say it, but Canisisus travels better for hockey than what I have seen at NU.

Air Force seems to have a good fan following, but the fans really have no chance to follow the team out of Cadet Ice Arena. Really would be sad to see Air Force go, but they really should be in the WCHA, I think in a couple years conferences for hockey may have no choice but to realign as a good part of conference travel is getting ridiculous, be interested to see what happens to Air Force.

One team I can't get a read on is Mercyhurst. Question for any Erie area fan reading. What effect does the Erie Otters have in Erie? My company has an office in Erie and from what I hear is that everyone is focused on the Otters that no one really even realizes Mercyhurst has a hockey team, but these are passive hockey fans. Be intersted to hear a real hockey fan's take from Erie.

Bottom line, I think the Atlantic needs more passionate fans outside of the Rochester area. Fans are what make any league college or pro. Untill more school can up their fan interest in hockey, I see the Atlantic being hindered despite the clear increase in talent the teams are getting...
 
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They funny thing is you don't even need a huge following from another school to have the tourney held somewhere besides Rochester. If UCONN, Bentley, Holy Cross, and Sacred Heart had somewhat of a decent following then they could have the tourney in Hartford. However that is simply not true.
 
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The Problem with Mercyhurst hockey is that there isnt much of a student base of fans. I go to the hurst and am one of the regulars at each game but beyond that it seems to be a chore to get friends to go to the games. for me this is wicked hard to imagine coming from Massachusetts where college hockey is so prevalent that more fans prefer watching college hockey to pro hockey. now as for mercyhurst fans traveling this never happens, not even a push from fans to go to buffalo for games. But with how our season ended last year in OT i think we might be able to drum up support among the fan base as far as the students are concerned. Its sad that it took a game on National TV to fill the MIC for a game against army.
 
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Yes Tom, you're right, Niagara Hockey fans do not travel well. But I think this might change. Keep in mind we have not had the opportunity to travel, I mean who was going to see us take on Wayne State or BSU on the road.

Now with RIT and that community college from Buffalo on our schedule that may change. Once NU students see how many RIT and community college students come to our campus they might be compelled to do the same.

I use the word might and may, because basketball is still the most important thing at Niagara.
 
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So have you been to the tournament or not? If you're not willing to drive to Rochester once, why should we expect you and your wallet to show up in Worcester, Bridgeport or Albany?

Maybe when the New England schools start making regular trips to the tournament, the league will think about moving it over that way. But as long as RIT, Air Force and Mercyhurst are taking up three of the four slots, it's fine where it is.

Both I and my wallet always show up in Worcester and Manchester for the NCAA regionals as well as the TD Garden for the Hockey East championship. Why bother driving all the way to Jerkwater, New York when a far superior brand of college hockey is being played here in New England. I would, however, consider attending the AHA tournament if it was moved in an easterly direction.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, one can clearly see (as I have stated before) that the AHA is a conference on the rise. In fact, I think its even poised to surpass the ECAC in the perceived "stength of conference" category. It seems, though, that too many supporters of the AHA are complacent and afraid of change. This league should be embracing change and incubating and cultivating success among all of its members.

People here talk about Niagara, Air Force, and RIT as if they are the now and future "iron of the league". Well cast your eyes easterly Eagles, Falcons, and Tigers for I would suggest that a "contender to the throne" awaits its time in Storrs, Connecticut. If UConn ever decides to do for its hockey program what it has done for its basketball and football programs then UConn hockey will invariably rise and become the pride of the league. This is what the league should want and what better way to jump start this process then to start with having the championship tournament staged here in New England (Hartford, Bridgeport, Springfield) on an alternating year basis. Admittedly, this is only a small gesture, but at least its something and certainly shakes up the status quo of underachieving complacency that seems to have a grip on this conference.
 
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If UConn ever decides to do for its hockey program what it has done for its basketball and football programs then UConn hockey will invariably rise and become the pride of the league.

The pride of the league...I am not so sure. No one is denying that UConn can rise and become better, IF they get the same funding, support, etc as football and basketball. But I am not holding my breath for that to happen.

The same can be said for Bentley (I am sure an on-campus rink would add support for the team), AIC, Holy Cross, etc. Better funding allows for better recruitment which brings better results...Better support helps with motivation and that also brings better results. It seems that some of the schools in the east, as well at least one in the west just don't care.
 
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Both I and my wallet always show up in Worcester and Manchester for the NCAA regionals as well as the TD Garden for the Hockey East championship. Why bother driving all the way to Jerkwater, New York when a far superior brand of college hockey is being played here in New England.
Jerkwater? You are an idiot.
Approximate Populations:
Rochester 220k (over 1 million in metro area)
Worcester 183k
Providence 171k
Bridgeport 138k
Manchester 109k
North Andover 28k

I would, however, consider attending the AHA tournament if it was moved in an easterly direction.
One more reason that I am very happy it is not further east.

Notwithstanding the foregoing, one can clearly see (as I have stated before) that the AHA is a conference on the rise. In fact, I think its even poised to surpass the ECAC in the perceived "stength of conference" category.

OK, let's not get carried away. The AHA is improving and the ECAC is at best stagnant. But to say the AHA is poised to surpass the ECAC is a stretch, at best. The ECAC still has a considerably high winning percentage in NC games vs. the AHA (not as good as the other big-4's but still good). It will be a while before these two conferences would even be considered close to equal let alone the way you suggest.
 
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