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Another Mass Shooting: It's Those Darn Video Games!

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Drew S. said:
We are a piece of **** country and it's only going to get worse.
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No. We are a good country temporarily infested with piece of **** hayseeds. There is nothing wrong with America that education and secularization won't fix. We just need to either improve or weed out the derp.
 
Kepler said:
No. We are a good country temporarily infested with piece of **** hayseeds. There is nothing wrong with America that education and secularization won't fix. We just need to either improve or weed out the derp.
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The female half of the country may struggle to match your optimism at the moment
 
LynahFan said:
Unfortunately, I think you're only referring to 47% of the female half....
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Well, sort of. It's 47% of white women. The vast majority of black women will have problem with the optimism. Who the fuck knows where the Hispanics and Asians are on the scale.

All we do know is 53% of white women have no problem with what is going on.
 
One of the reasons I used to dismiss gun control was that suicides make up an incredibly high percentage of gun deaths in the US. A suicidal person will typically use whatever tool is at their disposal to get the job done*, right? So if we're being real about the scope of our problem, we should remove those from the total. Now, the remainder is still the highest in the civilized world, but much less terrible looking.


* then, I read about suicide. The effective lethality of the means plays a whole lot into it - https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/ - where using a gun makes you far more likely to complete the job by any other means. A, unbelievably high percentage of gun-related suicides include a gun purchased just before the suicide. I'm having trouble finding the statistics I read, but https://giffords.org/issues/gun-suicide/ and https://www.everytown.org/solutions/waiting-periods/ - these argue that since, in many cases, suicide is a irrational and immediate act, requiring a waiting period would cut down on a not-insignificant percentage of successful suicides. Perhaps the person tries another method, but according to statistics, they very likely won't succeed. Whereas with a gun, they have the aforementioned 85% success rate.


So yeah. Even suicides would be cut down substantially by eliminating the ability to buy guns. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3518361/
 
Swansong said:
One of the reasons I used to dismiss gun control was that suicides make up an incredibly high percentage of gun deaths in the US. A suicidal person will typically use whatever tool is at their disposal to get the job done*, right? So if we're being real about the scope of our problem, we should remove those from the total. Now, the remainder is still the highest in the civilized world, but much less terrible looking.


* then, I read about suicide. The effective lethality of the means plays a whole lot into it - https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/case-fatality/ - where using a gun makes you far more likely to complete the job by any other means. A, unbelievably high percentage of gun-related suicides include a gun purchased just before the suicide. I'm having trouble finding the statistics I read, but https://giffords.org/issues/gun-suicide/ and https://www.everytown.org/solutions/waiting-periods/ - these argue that since, in many cases, suicide is a irrational and immediate act, requiring a waiting period would cut down on a not-insignificant percentage of successful suicides. Perhaps the person tries another method, but according to statistics, they very likely won't succeed. Whereas with a gun, they have the aforementioned 85% success rate.


So yeah. Even suicides would be cut down substantially by eliminating the ability to buy guns. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3518361/
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We’d lead the (developed) world in gun deaths with suicides alone. But since most of them are middle-aged white men who vote Republican, maybe we shouldn’t care as much?
 
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rufus said:
Wait, the gunman carried his weapons into the school in a backpack? Who knew?

Well, let's just ban backpacks.
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GOP is far ahead of you on this. DeVos is for getting rid of students all together. Can't have school shootings without any schools.
 
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