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Abortion: Why Not Thoughts and Prayers?

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Very clearly, the only reason to ban all abortions at any time is religious. When the Alabama law gets challenged, if it gets as far as SCOTUS, it obviously might get upheld because of the makeup of the court, but I wouldn't be totally shocked, with such a clear-cut 1st Amendment violation, if Roberts votes to shoot it down. I don't like that guy, but once in a while, when the options between the Constitution and some totally outrageous conservative garbage, he does the right thing. Hell, Gorsuch has done the right thing regarding Native American rights once or twice; maybe he actually believes in the Constitution, too.
 
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duper said:
Very clearly, the only reason to ban all abortions at any time is religious. When the Alabama law gets challenged, if it gets as far as SCOTUS, it obviously might get upheld because of the makeup of the court, but I wouldn't be totally shocked, with such a clear-cut 1st Amendment violation, if Roberts votes to shoot it down. I don't like that guy, but once in a while, when the options between the Constitution and some totally outrageous conservative garbage, he does the right thing. Hell, Gorsuch has done the right thing regarding Native American rights once or twice; maybe he actually believes in the Constitution, too.
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Roberts seems to believe in the Constitution as long as it doesn't cost the .01% any money.

Gorsuch seems to believe in the Constitution as long as it doesn't cost the Republican Party any votes.
 
The Rube said:
He needs better phrasing, but he has a point. Pregnant woman takes out policy on child, takes a few punches to the stomach (or any other method that really can't be proven to be done on purpose), creates a miscarriage, collects insurance policy.

Note: I think these new abortion laws are %*)(&# ^*(&@ horrible.
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Bulls##t. These aholes can't have their cake and eat it too. If they want to declare at 6 weeks it's a life than let it be insured. Also it's a stupid argument to claim a woman is going to just let someone "punch her in the stomach" to collect.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Also it's a stupid argument to claim a woman is going to just let someone "punch get in the stomach" because a miscarriage under these arcane laws would be punishable.
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Though it's exactly the sort of stupid, nefarious, paranoid argument a Republican would believe. These are people who believe the poor would rather live in the projects on welfare than have a living wage job. Who believe kids have sex because they can get birth control and aren't forced to pray in school.

Use that stupidity. Make them feel like somebody's getting over on them. That's the way to appeal to a conservative: make him feel victimized and taken advantage of, no matter how much of a reach it is. That's the essential core of his being.
 
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Slap Shot said:
Bulls##t. These aholes can't have their cake and eat it too. If they want to declare at 6 weeks it's a life than let it be insured. Also it's a stupid argument to claim a woman is going to just let someone "punch her in the stomach" to collect.
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But it’s exactly what republicans and “centrists” want to believe. Like all welfare recipients are queens who drive luxury cars and eat lobster all day
 
Re: Abortion: Why Not Thoughts and Prayers?

Slap Shot said:
Bulls##t. These aholes can't have their cake and eat it too. If they want to declare at 6 weeks it's a life than let it be insured. Also it's a stupid argument to claim a woman is going to just let someone "punch her in the stomach" to collect.
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Have you read the Nice Planet Thread? There are aholes out there that would do such a thing. It wouldn't be common, not even close, but I bet it would happen.
 
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The Rube said:
Have you read the Nice Planet Thread? There are aholes out there that would do such a thing. It wouldn't be common, not even close, but I bet it would happen.
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Then the insurance company would investigate and there would be no payment. This stuff isn't hard.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Then the insurance company would investigate and there would be no payment. This stuff isn't hard.
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Again, why I specified using some method that can't be proven to be done on purpose.
 
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The Rube said:
Again, why I specified using some method that can't be proven to be done on purpose.
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Right. The old, "Let's cover-up an induced miscarriage at the high risk of killing the mother in hopes of collecting insurance" racket. Oldest trick in the book.





You're not this stupid Rube - please stop.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
Then the insurance company would investigate and there would be no payment. This stuff isn't hard.
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so up to the insurance company :eek: scooby must be a shareholder in insurance stocks like dx!! :D
 
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