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#6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
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Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
In the words of Gru....KNOCKED OOOVVVEEERRR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2T7iugfXtQ&feature=related
In the words of Gru....KNOCKED OOOVVVEEERRR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2T7iugfXtQ&feature=related
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Congratulations, Merrimack. You have accomplished much this season. If you aren't playing BC for the HE championship in March, I'd be astonished. You and the Eagles are clearly the best right now. Hope DaCosta returns to the ice soon.
Congratulations, Merrimack. You have accomplished much this season. If you aren't playing BC for the HE championship in March, I'd be astonished. You and the Eagles are clearly the best right now. Hope DaCosta returns to the ice soon.
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
I guess probably Smeaves wasnt suspended huh?
And if you cant see the irony, you must be blind. In any event, we probably wont be hearing UHN fans whining about other teams being overly dirty in the future, eh? Glass houses is right 
I guess probably Smeaves wasnt suspended huh?
And if you cant see the irony, you must be blind. In any event, we probably wont be hearing UHN fans whining about other teams being overly dirty in the future, eh? Glass houses is right 
thecomicbookguy
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Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Probably because it wasn't a dirty play, but don't let facts get in the way of a perfectly terrible argument.
I guess probably Smeaves wasnt suspended huh?
Probably because it wasn't a dirty play, but don't let facts get in the way of a perfectly terrible argument.
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
I've seen the replay several times now and it was exactly that kind of play. The difference being that DaCosta was not going in on a scoring chance, he was just heading to gain the red line, probably for a dump-in and a line change. The rest of his linemates were heading for the change. However, the rest is exactly like that-- DeSimone tried to line DaCosta up, failed, and stuck the leg out to avoid whizzing past him into the Merrimack defensive end. DeSimone's leg is clearly stuck out to contact DaCosta, and had it not, there would have been no contact.
There was another Merrimack player to DeSimone's right, heading to the bench, but I think if you watch the replay you'll conclude it was largely incidental-- in fact, had DeSimone been pushed by the Merrimack player it would have helped him make the hit. As it is, the leg was the only point of contact.
I've seen the replay several times now and it was exactly that kind of play. The difference being that DaCosta was not going in on a scoring chance, he was just heading to gain the red line, probably for a dump-in and a line change. The rest of his linemates were heading for the change. However, the rest is exactly like that-- DeSimone tried to line DaCosta up, failed, and stuck the leg out to avoid whizzing past him into the Merrimack defensive end. DeSimone's leg is clearly stuck out to contact DaCosta, and had it not, there would have been no contact.
There was another Merrimack player to DeSimone's right, heading to the bench, but I think if you watch the replay you'll conclude it was largely incidental-- in fact, had DeSimone been pushed by the Merrimack player it would have helped him make the hit. As it is, the leg was the only point of contact.
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
What did you see the replay on, ESPN?
What did you see the replay on, ESPN?
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
How would an interested fan gain access to this video that you have viewed?
Could you clarify - I'm not sure what you mean by "stuck his leg out to avoid whizzing past him into the Merrimack defensive end"? Was he trying to plant a skate to change directions back into the neutral zone? It's hard to figure out what you think DeSimone's intent was. Thanks.
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Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Great weekend for MC. Enjoyed the B2B broadcast-- not so much your announcer though. Best of luck the rest of the way. Perhaps UNH will see you again in Boston and/or Manchester.
Great weekend for MC. Enjoyed the B2B broadcast-- not so much your announcer though. Best of luck the rest of the way. Perhaps UNH will see you again in Boston and/or Manchester.
John_Fuller
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Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
That was one hell of a college hockey game I saw tonight. Had bit and pieces of everything. No questioning the offensive skills of these two teams.
UNH lost this game on lazy play in the defensive zone....lots and lots of suspect passes by the defensive not named Kessel. I thought they had awful time at the faceoff dot. I'd like to know the actual faceoffs, but it sure seems that they were down big on their end. Credit to them for the PP run to tie it.
Merrimack is an awfully lucky team that they didn't gift-wrap the game back to UNH after the late second period brew-ha-ha. That's wasn't the time or place to drop the gloves and goon it up with a two-goal lead. They could go very far this season if DaCosta isn't several hurt. I did see him on crutches so one can only hope for the best.
Lots of shots...good overall play, and an entertaing game...imagine if this we was on NESN. I've never seen Merrimack erupt like that after the OT goal.
I though the UNH star should have went to DiGiorlamo...both he and Cannata had pretty solid games.
Note to my team: See what happens when you throw the puck at and go to the net.
That was one hell of a college hockey game I saw tonight. Had bit and pieces of everything. No questioning the offensive skills of these two teams.
UNH lost this game on lazy play in the defensive zone....lots and lots of suspect passes by the defensive not named Kessel. I thought they had awful time at the faceoff dot. I'd like to know the actual faceoffs, but it sure seems that they were down big on their end. Credit to them for the PP run to tie it.
Merrimack is an awfully lucky team that they didn't gift-wrap the game back to UNH after the late second period brew-ha-ha. That's wasn't the time or place to drop the gloves and goon it up with a two-goal lead. They could go very far this season if DaCosta isn't several hurt. I did see him on crutches so one can only hope for the best.
Lots of shots...good overall play, and an entertaing game...imagine if this we was on NESN. I've never seen Merrimack erupt like that after the OT goal.
I though the UNH star should have went to DiGiorlamo...both he and Cannata had pretty solid games.
Note to my team: See what happens when you throw the puck at and go to the net.
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Well, the Merrimack players clearly thought that Desimone did it intentionally. After UNH tied the game, they went after Desimone. He received several cross checks to the head in the Merrimack zone along the boards.
Then there was a blatant leg check on Thompson attempting to enter the offensive zone, in what would appear to be in the nature of "an eye for an eye." Merrimack also took a couple other runs at Thompson. In fact, after the leg check, Thompson slowly skated back to the bench, letting the ref know his displeasure. This sequence resulted in the "too many" penalty on UNH.
Well, the Merrimack players clearly thought that Desimone did it intentionally. After UNH tied the game, they went after Desimone. He received several cross checks to the head in the Merrimack zone along the boards.
Then there was a blatant leg check on Thompson attempting to enter the offensive zone, in what would appear to be in the nature of "an eye for an eye." Merrimack also took a couple other runs at Thompson. In fact, after the leg check, Thompson slowly skated back to the bench, letting the ref know his displeasure. This sequence resulted in the "too many" penalty on UNH.
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Sad. Hope the college game doesn't devolve into what happens in the NHL night in and night out.
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Rumor has it, it was shown several times on the B2 network between the 2nd and 3rd period.
Rumor has it, it was shown several times on the B2 network between the 2nd and 3rd period.
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
boo hoo get over yourselves. You lost Deal with it. Thompson seemed to be walking without crutches after the game. Can't say the same for DaCosta
boo hoo get over yourselves. You lost Deal with it. Thompson seemed to be walking without crutches after the game. Can't say the same for DaCosta
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Somebody please put it up on youtube.
Somebody please put it up on youtube.
Yuppie Scum
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Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Second best part of the game (other than the go-ahead) was SDC tapping his crutches on the glass taunting Kessel's Fat Brother.
Second best part of the game (other than the go-ahead) was SDC tapping his crutches on the glass taunting Kessel's Fat Brother.
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Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
Because the game that night was webcast. Because they replayed the hit. Because during the next game's webcast, they replayed the hit several times, and in slow motion. It was not far from the puck-- DaCosta in a heap on the ice was far from where the puck ended up, but only after the play. There was no tangle. DeSimone came straight at DaCosta, missed the body check, and as he passed by, stuck out his leg. It was clearly visible.
Intent should be just as irrelevant as it is now on calls where a high stick draws blood-- when what you're doing has no legitimate object, you should be responsible for the consequences. I don't think DeSimone was trying to injure anybody, but he was trying to make a hit he had no chance of making without trying to leg trip DaCosta.
The hit was not included in the highlights that Pack Network publishes on YouTube. I'm hoping that either someone recorded it, or that Pack Network will post it, give it to the league, or both.
Because the game that night was webcast. Because they replayed the hit. Because during the next game's webcast, they replayed the hit several times, and in slow motion. It was not far from the puck-- DaCosta in a heap on the ice was far from where the puck ended up, but only after the play. There was no tangle. DeSimone came straight at DaCosta, missed the body check, and as he passed by, stuck out his leg. It was clearly visible.
Intent should be just as irrelevant as it is now on calls where a high stick draws blood-- when what you're doing has no legitimate object, you should be responsible for the consequences. I don't think DeSimone was trying to injure anybody, but he was trying to make a hit he had no chance of making without trying to leg trip DaCosta.
The hit was not included in the highlights that Pack Network publishes on YouTube. I'm hoping that either someone recorded it, or that Pack Network will post it, give it to the league, or both.
Re: #6 UNH, Home and Home with #12 Merrimack, Fri 2/11 Sat 2/12
I'm not ascribing any intent to DeSimone, as I'm not a mind-reader. I'm also unsure that intent here should be relevant; only whether or not player actions could have had any possible legitimate intent, so perhaps my description went too far.
Having viewed the video, it was my opinion that had DeSimone not stuck his leg out, there would have been no contact, and the result would have been a clean miss, sending DeSimone into Merrimack's defensive end, alone, while the play continued on without him.
DeSimone could have stuck his left leg out for any one or more of several reasons, including changing direction. However, until DaCosta was past him there would have been no reason to change direction, and although it does involve trying to guess intent, I'd say the way the play looks, it appears as if DeSimone was attempting to hit DaCosta, not to skate past him into the Merrimack defensive end. To infer that he was sticking out that leg to change direction indicates that he already knows or believes that DaCosta is or will be past him, and since they hadn't yet made contact when he stuck the leg out that seems premature.
In fact, given the relative player positions, the way in which DeSimone could have most quickly changed direction would be either to keep his skates parallel and cross over his right leg-- meaning that if there had been any leg to leg contact, it would have been his right leg and DaCosta's left-- or to pull up and stop. For either of those manuevers, DeSimone's legs would be expected to be parallel and tight. There's no way that broadening his stance at that moment by sticking his left leg out turns him back into the neutral zone any faster; in fact, it would slow him down and keep him pointed towards the Merrimack zone and DaCosta.
I'm not ascribing any intent to DeSimone, as I'm not a mind-reader. I'm also unsure that intent here should be relevant; only whether or not player actions could have had any possible legitimate intent, so perhaps my description went too far.
Having viewed the video, it was my opinion that had DeSimone not stuck his leg out, there would have been no contact, and the result would have been a clean miss, sending DeSimone into Merrimack's defensive end, alone, while the play continued on without him.
DeSimone could have stuck his left leg out for any one or more of several reasons, including changing direction. However, until DaCosta was past him there would have been no reason to change direction, and although it does involve trying to guess intent, I'd say the way the play looks, it appears as if DeSimone was attempting to hit DaCosta, not to skate past him into the Merrimack defensive end. To infer that he was sticking out that leg to change direction indicates that he already knows or believes that DaCosta is or will be past him, and since they hadn't yet made contact when he stuck the leg out that seems premature.
In fact, given the relative player positions, the way in which DeSimone could have most quickly changed direction would be either to keep his skates parallel and cross over his right leg-- meaning that if there had been any leg to leg contact, it would have been his right leg and DaCosta's left-- or to pull up and stop. For either of those manuevers, DeSimone's legs would be expected to be parallel and tight. There's no way that broadening his stance at that moment by sticking his left leg out turns him back into the neutral zone any faster; in fact, it would slow him down and keep him pointed towards the Merrimack zone and DaCosta.