2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line

[Priceless]

Since this is a Supreme Court thread, I have a question about the economy.

When the current administration took over, it inherited an economy that had been driven off a cliff and was in a free fall without a parachute. We were mired in two wars, the worst of which was costing about 7-8 bil a month and our own VP, when he was secdef, predicted would turn into a quagmire.

What do Obama's harshest critics think the economy should be doing now, given where it was 6 years ago? What would _________have done to make that happen?




I posted this a month ago, thinking Ob's critics, of which there are many, would jump all over it. No response.

It only took Junior a couple years to turn Clinton's $230bn surplus into a massive budget deficit (deficits don't matter) so clearly Obama should have gotten us out of the fiscal quagmire just as quickly.

 

[Old Pio]

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Since this is a Supreme Court thread, I have a question about the economy.

When the current administration took over, it inherited an economy that had been driven off a cliff and was in a free fall without a parachute. We were mired in two wars, the worst of which was costing about 7-8 bil a month and our own VP, when he was secdef, predicted would turn into a quagmire.

What do Obama's harshest critics think the economy should be doing now, given where it was 6 years ago? What would _________have done to make that happen?




I posted this a month ago, thinking Ob's critics, of which there are many, would jump all over it. No response.

Several hundred additional billions for "shovel ready" jobs to help union fat cats would have done the trick. Turns out a trillion was insufficient.

 

[5mn_Major]

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James Brady. Man who took a bullet for Reagan. Man who became a great advocate of gun control...that Reagan totally embraced. Finally succumbed to the gun wounds he suffered almost 3 decades ago. RIP sir.

 

[Priceless]

Several hundred additional billions for "shovel ready" jobs to help union fat cats would have done the trick. Turns out a trillion was insufficient.

Care to point out the trillion in shovel ready jobs?
http://projects.nytimes.com/44th_president/stimulus

 

[joecct]

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It appears that the ghost of Sen. Inouye has some power as Hawai'i voters have tossed the governor and possibly the incumbent interim Senator for (a) defying the Senator's wishes and (b) not being the Senator's hand picked successor.

 

[Rover]

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Care to point out the trillion in shovel ready jobs?
http://projects.nytimes.com/44th_president/stimulus

I think Opie is talking about the trillion or two the US spent in Iraq thanks to his personal hero and favorite President, George W Bush. One might speculate why Opie is so interested in building up Iraq instead of the United States, but I don't expect him to answer that question directly.

 

[Old Pio]

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I think Opie is talking about the trillion or two the US spent in Iraq thanks to his personal hero and favorite President, George W Bush. One might speculate why Opie is so interested in building up Iraq instead of the United States, but I don't expect him to answer that question directly.

"building up. . .the United States?" Can you be a little more vague?

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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"building up. . .the United States?" Can you be a little more vague?

Yeah, it's not like any bridges have fallen down or anything.

 

[Priceless]

Yeah, it's not like any bridges have fallen down or anything.

And our electrical grid is top notch. Haven't had any blackouts or strains on the system. Schools are in excellent structural condition - not to mention the students inside them receive the best education in the world. Speaking of best in the world, our healthcare system annually is recognized as tops in global efficiency and we pay so little for it!

We're very fortunate to have nothing at home that needs work and can spend liberally building stuff in a war zone so the terrorists can use them for target practice before we rebuild them.

 

[joecct]

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On the lighter side, follow @dick_nixon on Twitter.

Funny posts by our former president whose office was at the bottom of Mom's street.

 

[Kepler]

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And our electrical grid is top notch.

We can't have government funding projects that help people. That's "dependency."

At some point we'll be forced to use the bones of the 1 percent for macadam. But privately and for profit, of course.

 

[joecct]

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We can't have government funding projects that help people. That's "dependency."

At some point we'll be forced to use the bones of the 1 percent for macadam. But privately and for profit, of course.

If it's teaching them how to fish as opposed to giving them the fish, that's OK.

If it's giving them their 1st fishing rod, fine. If they lose it, that's their problem, not mine.

If it's building a road to the fishing hole, OK. If you want me to maintain it for you, that's not OK. And, if you don't maintain it, don't expect me to come fix it when it falls apart. Consequences for your bad decisions are yours. If I screw up, then I'll accept the consequences (by blaming Rover).

 

[bigblue_dl]

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If it's teaching them how to fish as opposed to giving them the fish, that's OK.

If it's giving them their 1st fishing rod, fine. If they lose it, that's their problem, not mine.

If it's building a road to the fishing hole, OK. If you want me to maintain it for you, that's not OK. And, if you don't maintain it, don't expect me to come fix it when it falls apart. Consequences for your bad decisions are yours. If I screw up, then I'll accept the consequences (by blaming Rover).

Where does our current indian casino style seafood buffet fit in?

 

[joecct]

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Where does our current indian casino style seafood buffet fit in?

Next to the automated beer taps?

 

[Old Pio]

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And our electrical grid is top notch. Haven't had any blackouts or strains on the system. Schools are in excellent structural condition - not to mention the students inside them receive the best education in the world. Speaking of best in the world, our healthcare system annually is recognized as tops in global efficiency and we pay so little for it!

We're very fortunate to have nothing at home that needs work and can spend liberally building stuff in a war zone so the terrorists can use them for target practice before we rebuild them.

And ALL of those concerns are the responsibility of the central government, aren't they? Mr. "Lead from Behind" is the one responsible for abandoning that equipment in Iraq that seems to have your t*ts in an uproar.

 

[Old Pio]

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Care to point out the trillion in shovel ready jobs?
http://projects.nytimes.com/44th_president/stimulus

That datum is irrelevant, since the Community Organizer in Chief announced (after the money was spent to aid his fat cat union allies) that there's no such thing. Evidently the Giant Brain, who has modestly announced several times that he could do a better job than anyone in his administration, hasn't heard about the design studies, environmental impact studies, public hearings, permitting processes, et al involved with public works projects.

 

[ScoobyDoo]

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And ALL of those concerns are the responsibility of the central government, aren't they? Mr. "Lead from Behind" is the one responsible for abandoning that equipment in Iraq that seems to have your t*ts in an uproar.

Well, we could go with the no central government model you seem to be touting. It sure would make Texas happy as they really don't want to be here anyway. I do find it curious that the Governor of a secessionist State wants to be President though.

The no central government model is a big hit in Iraq.

 

[Rover]

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And ALL of those concerns are the responsibility of the central government, aren't they? Mr. "Lead from Behind" is the one responsible for abandoning that equipment in Iraq that seems to have your t*ts in an uproar.

But I thought that conservative trained and led Iraqi army was supposed to be a lean mean fighting force by now Opie. Wasn't it that army that abandoned the equipment despite what your pals Bush-Cheney told us about their capabilities?

 

[Priceless]

And ALL of those concerns are the responsibility of the central government, aren't they? Mr. "Lead from Behind" is the one responsible for abandoning that equipment in Iraq that seems to have your t*ts in an uproar.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure when a power grid covers multiple states it is the role of a federal government to step up and repair or upgrade it. Same with school construction. Very few local municipalities are going to have the funds required for that level of infrastructure. I think you know where I stand on the horrors of Communist socialized medicine - like every other country in the developed world has.

As for the equipment we left behind, I'm not sure where I said that upset me. What upsets me is the $9 billion pallet of money we just "misplaced" and the hundreds of billions we p!$$ed away building infrastructure - especially when we were told the entire thing would be a few weeks, cost a couple billion dollars and the grateful Iraqis would be more than happy to pay us back out of their oil profits.

 

[Old Pio]

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But I thought that conservative trained and led Iraqi army was supposed to be a lean mean fighting force by now Opie. Wasn't it that army that abandoned the equipment despite what your pals Bush-Cheney told us about their capabilities?

Only two years left for you to blame this feckless dilettante's failures on Bush.