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2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line

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Priceless said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure when a power grid covers multiple states it is the role of a federal government to step up and repair or upgrade it. Same with school construction. Very few local municipalities are going to have the funds required for that level of infrastructure. I think you know where I stand on the horrors of Communist socialized medicine - like every other country in the developed world has.

As for the equipment we left behind, I'm not sure where I said that upset me. What upsets me is the $9 billion pallet of money we just "misplaced" and the hundreds of billions we p!$$ed away building infrastructure - especially when we were told the entire thing would be a few weeks, cost a couple billion dollars and the grateful Iraqis would be more than happy to pay us back out of their oil profits.
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Why don't we just do away with city, county and state governments and let the mighty Fed run everything?

I see where the FDA has been working on standards for breath mints for the last 17 years.

The Canadian single payer system is a huge success: for American hospitals providing services to Canucks unwilling or unable to wait years for their cat scans and other studies.
 
Old Pio said:
Only two years left for you to blame this feckless dilettante's failures on Bush.
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Why? You're still complaining about Carter and Clinton. Hell, you've complained about FDR. We'll still be talking about Junior long after you've shuffled off this mortal coil.
 
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Old Pio said:
Why don't we just do away with city, county and state governments and let the mighty Fed run everything?

I see where the FDA has been working on standards for breath mints for the last 17 years.

The Canadian single payer system is a huge success: for American hospitals providing services to Canucks unwilling or unable to wait years for their cat scans and other studies.
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So, now it's Obama's fault that Mississippi won't take care of it's own?

Geeesh.
 
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Priceless said:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure when a power grid covers multiple states it is the role of a federal government to step up and repair or upgrade it. Same with school construction. Very few local municipalities are going to have the funds required for that level of infrastructure. I think you know where I stand on the horrors of Communist socialized medicine - like every other country in the developed world has.

As for the equipment we left behind, I'm not sure where I said that upset me. What upsets me is the $9 billion pallet of money we just "misplaced" and the hundreds of billions we p!$$ed away building infrastructure - especially when we were told the entire thing would be a few weeks, cost a couple billion dollars and the grateful Iraqis would be more than happy to pay us back out of their oil profits.
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Wouldn't the power companies that build and maintain the lines be in charge of their for-profit power infrastructure? Sure, they need easements, permits and such to build more lines, but they should be the ones to build them.

Then again, we're not allowing the construction of pretty much any sort of power plant that doesn't operate on fairy dust and wishes at the moment, so it's not like adding more transmission lines are really going to do a great deal of good at present.
 
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St. Clown said:
... we're not allowing the construction of pretty much any sort of power plant that doesn't operate on fairy dust and wishes ...
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Or unicorn farts. (Capturing and burning those is a double-win: fuel and it keeps a "greenhouse gas" out of the atmosphere.)
 
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St. Clown said:
Wouldn't the power companies that build and maintain the lines be in charge of their for-profit power infrastructure? Sure, they need easements, permits and such to build more lines, but they should be the ones to build them.

Then again, we're not allowing the construction of pretty much any sort of power plant that doesn't operate on fairy dust and wishes at the moment, so it's not like adding more transmission lines are really going to do a great deal of good at present.
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Even if there were ZERO government regulation you'd have a hard time getting any of the for profit companies to invest in their futures without a government handout. Hell, the company I used to work for in the early '90s took the best deal they could get before they built their own building and stopped renting. The deal they got from the city we moved to at that time was sick and a lot better than any deal I could have ever got for my private home.
 
St. Clown said:
Wouldn't the power companies that build and maintain the lines be in charge of their for-profit power infrastructure? Sure, they need easements, permits and such to build more lines, but they should be the ones to build them.
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Hahahhahahahahahahahahahah
That's funny.

Hahahhahahahahahhahaha
I'll have to tell that one at my next social function. A private for-profit venture like a power company using their own money on infrastructure. Oh man, I haven't laughed that hard in ages. Maybe you should replace Craig Ferguson.
 
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Priceless said:
Hahahhahahahahahahahahahah
That's funny.

Hahahhahahahahahhahaha
I'll have to tell that one at my next social function. A private for-profit venture like a power company using their own money on infrastructure. Oh man, I haven't laughed that hard in ages. Maybe you should replace Craig Ferguson.
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My rough understanding on power plants, although this could pertain mostly to nuclear, is that no insurance company will back one of these things, and their cost and potential liability is far more than the market value of most utilities. Hence these plants would not get built were it not for the support of the feds.
 
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Old Pio said:
And ALL of those concerns are the responsibility of the central government, aren't they? Mr. "Lead from Behind" is the one responsible for abandoning that equipment in Iraq that seems to have your t*ts in an uproar.
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Old Pio said:
That datum is irrelevant, since the Community Organizer in Chief announced (after the money was spent to aid his fat cat union allies) that there's no such thing. Evidently the Giant Brain, who has modestly announced several times that he could do a better job than anyone in his administration, hasn't heard about the design studies, environmental impact studies, public hearings, permitting processes, et al involved with public works projects.
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Old Pio said:
Only two years left for you to blame this feckless dilettante's failures on Bush.
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Short on substance, long on insults: The Talk Jock Way.

But well done in its way and fun, I have to admit.
 
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Priceless said:
Hahahhahahahahahahahahahah
That's funny.

Hahahhahahahahahhahaha
I'll have to tell that one at my next social function. A private for-profit venture like a power company using their own money on infrastructure. Oh man, I haven't laughed that hard in ages. Maybe you should replace Craig Ferguson.
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They will build more lines if there's profit in the building of lines. It's really that simple. Right now there's no (or little) profit for them in doing so, so they won't.
 
St. Clown said:
They will build more lines if there's profit in the building of lines. It's really that simple. Right now there's no (or little) profit for them in doing so, so they won't.
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They will build lines if the public pays for it and then they will gladly keep the profit when it's time to collect.

Socialize debt, privatize profit.
 
Rover said:
My rough understanding on power plants, although this could pertain mostly to nuclear, is that no insurance company will back one of these things, and their cost and potential liability is far more than the market value of most utilities. Hence these plants would not get built were it not for the support of the feds.
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You Communist!
 
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The Sicatoka said:
Or unicorn farts. (Capturing and burning those is a double-win: fuel and it keeps a "greenhouse gas" out of the atmosphere.)
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I'd be interested in hearing your rationale for putting "greenhouse gas" in quotes. I have a feeling it would be quite entertaining.
 
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Who's to say the money used in Iraq would be spent on anything but paying back the banksters or "given" to obama backers. I love how someone says it could have been used for the public good and yes it could have but are the chances it would have?
 
walrus said:
Who's to say the money used in Iraq would be spent on anything but paying back the banksters or "given" to obama backers. I love how someone says it could have been used for the public good and yes it could have but are the chances it would have?
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Considering most of it was spent before Obama even got into office, I feel pretty safe in saying Junior wouldn't have helped Obama's backers.

Are you suggesting Dubya would just give it to his financial backers?
 
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