Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
He actually increased defense! Because, you know, we need to be fighting more wars and stuff.
He actually increased defense! Because, you know, we need to be fighting more wars and stuff.
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2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
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Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
Two things. I agree that the budget as presented isn't something that would be realistically ever adopted. But, of course, you don't put forward a compromise position to begin with when you know the other side (Dems) will put forward something that's heavily tilted their way on social spending, defense, etc. Not that the Dems generally even bother trying to put forward budgets that address the deficit and debt.
I agree that defense spending can't increase and will have to decrease along with pretty much everything else (yes, including social programs). But, hey, at least Ryan gives something of a nod to trying to address the budget problems. I give kudos to anyone, Rep or Dem, who will put out a budget that addresses our financial irresponsibility, even if aspects of it aren't entirely realistic. Baby steps are better than no steps.
Two things. I agree that the budget as presented isn't something that would be realistically ever adopted. But, of course, you don't put forward a compromise position to begin with when you know the other side (Dems) will put forward something that's heavily tilted their way on social spending, defense, etc. Not that the Dems generally even bother trying to put forward budgets that address the deficit and debt.
I agree that defense spending can't increase and will have to decrease along with pretty much everything else (yes, including social programs). But, hey, at least Ryan gives something of a nod to trying to address the budget problems. I give kudos to anyone, Rep or Dem, who will put out a budget that addresses our financial irresponsibility, even if aspects of it aren't entirely realistic. Baby steps are better than no steps.
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If Congress had adopted the USCHO Fan Forum Budget we proposed three years ago, this would be a moot point. Given projections, I believe we had a balanced budget by 2018 and had erased most of the federal debt by 2030. Unfortunately when I submitted the plan to Senator Snowe the response I got was indecipherable and full of double talk. In one paragraph she (or whoever wrote it) talked about reducing spending and in the next she was talking about increasing it. I posted it online and I don't think anyone could make sense of it. At this point I have very little use for anyone in Congress when it comes to the budget.
If Congress had adopted the USCHO Fan Forum Budget we proposed three years ago, this would be a moot point. Given projections, I believe we had a balanced budget by 2018 and had erased most of the federal debt by 2030. Unfortunately when I submitted the plan to Senator Snowe the response I got was indecipherable and full of double talk. In one paragraph she (or whoever wrote it) talked about reducing spending and in the next she was talking about increasing it. I posted it online and I don't think anyone could make sense of it. At this point I have very little use for anyone in Congress when it comes to the budget.
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Re: 2nd Term Part VIII - The Thin Red Line
The lobbyists, however, have plenty of use for them.
The lobbyists, however, have plenty of use for them.
ScoobyDoo
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I heard good old Bill O'Reilly last night frothing at the mouth. "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi" he cried on my TV. I knew there must be something going on.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/2/cia-leader-morell-denies-role-benghazi-cover-up/
Appears the Repubs tried again to pin lies on Obama, Susan Rice, and Hillary. Swing and a miss.
And here's the 3 biggest Benghazi clowns asking for more money to be spent on this crap.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/graham-mccain-ayotte-special-committee-benghazi
The answer is NO, Mr. Graham, Mr. McCain, and Miss Ayotte.
I heard good old Bill O'Reilly last night frothing at the mouth. "Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi" he cried on my TV. I knew there must be something going on.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/2/cia-leader-morell-denies-role-benghazi-cover-up/
Appears the Repubs tried again to pin lies on Obama, Susan Rice, and Hillary. Swing and a miss.
And here's the 3 biggest Benghazi clowns asking for more money to be spent on this crap.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/graham-mccain-ayotte-special-committee-benghazi
The answer is NO, Mr. Graham, Mr. McCain, and Miss Ayotte.
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dxmnkd316
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Man I really wish the Republicans would drop this Benghazi thing. It's dumb. Even if they do find some sort of impropriety, nothing is going to come of it. It's a complete dead end. Yet they keep wasting their time, and thus, our time, on this folly. They come off looking like petty idiots.
I know it's going to be hard to fill in a circle with an R next to it this year...
Man I really wish the Republicans would drop this Benghazi thing. It's dumb. Even if they do find some sort of impropriety, nothing is going to come of it. It's a complete dead end. Yet they keep wasting their time, and thus, our time, on this folly. They come off looking like petty idiots.
I know it's going to be hard to fill in a circle with an R next to it this year...
ScoobyDoo
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Bill will get to the bottom of what happened at today's Benghazi hearing.
http://www.billoreilly.com/show?action=viewTVShow&showID=3631#1
Yes, Bill. Bring in the Congresswomen who's dumber than a post to tell us how Michael Morell lied to us today. Then explain why he wasn't immediately charged with perjury before he left the hearing.
Bill will get to the bottom of what happened at today's Benghazi hearing.
http://www.billoreilly.com/show?action=viewTVShow&showID=3631#1
Yes, Bill. Bring in the Congresswomen who's dumber than a post to tell us how Michael Morell lied to us today. Then explain why he wasn't immediately charged with perjury before he left the hearing.
dxmnkd316
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*sigh* I'm still debating who I hate more. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz or Michelle Bachman.
*sigh* I'm still debating who I hate more. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz or Michelle Bachman.
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One would think the results of the 2012 election would have made that clear to them, but GOP campaign strategists today aren't as sharp as their predecessors. You know we've devolved into stupidity when they're spending millions of dollars and holding hearings over some talking points given after the fact. THAT's the pressing issue here?
Yikes.
One would think the results of the 2012 election would have made that clear to them, but GOP campaign strategists today aren't as sharp as their predecessors. You know we've devolved into stupidity when they're spending millions of dollars and holding hearings over some talking points given after the fact. THAT's the pressing issue here?
Yikes.
dxmnkd316
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Yeah, it's a complete joke.
One would think the results of the 2012 election would have made that clear to them, but GOP campaign strategists today aren't as sharp as their predecessors. You know we've devolved into stupidity when they're spending millions of dollars and holding hearings over some talking points given after the fact. THAT's the pressing issue here?
Yeah, it's a complete joke.
ScoobyDoo
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I watched Susan Rice on the Talk Shows that very weekend. The ones they seem hell bent on proving lies about. She NEVER EVER said that anyone definetively knew anything. I honestly cannot figure out why these people are still so upset that Susan Rick talked about a "protest"/"video". I wish I could ask them that. Mr. McCain, what exactly is stuck up your *** so far that you give a **** about what Susan Rick had to say?
One would think the results of the 2012 election would have made that clear to them, but GOP campaign strategists today aren't as sharp as their predecessors. You know we've devolved into stupidity when they're spending millions of dollars and holding hearings over some talking points given after the fact. THAT's the pressing issue here?
I watched Susan Rice on the Talk Shows that very weekend. The ones they seem hell bent on proving lies about. She NEVER EVER said that anyone definetively knew anything. I honestly cannot figure out why these people are still so upset that Susan Rick talked about a "protest"/"video". I wish I could ask them that. Mr. McCain, what exactly is stuck up your *** so far that you give a **** about what Susan Rick had to say?
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I'm glad to hear our financial house is in order so these senators can spend more money on a witch hunt. I had heard the federal debt was a problem, but apparently not.
I'm glad to hear our financial house is in order so these senators can spend more money on a witch hunt. I had heard the federal debt was a problem, but apparently not.
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"Oh, lookee, I just found those records that have been under subpoena for 18 months."
"Oh, lookee, I just found those records that have been under subpoena for 18 months."
FlagDUDE08
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Bringing up Benghazi should not stop until all involved are executed for treason. Your ilk covered it up because you cared more about an election than the well-being of this country.
Bringing up Benghazi should not stop until all involved are executed for treason. Your ilk covered it up because you cared more about an election than the well-being of this country.
ScoobyDoo
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Treason for what exactly? No, I really want to know. Treason for what?
You realize his budget uses savings from Obamacare to pay for stuff while at the same time calling for the repeal of Obamacare? The man is a joke. His budget is a joke. The party that supports his budget is a joke. At least the Democrats are honest about it. Spend, spend, spend.
Treason for what exactly? No, I really want to know. Treason for what?
You realize his budget uses savings from Obamacare to pay for stuff while at the same time calling for the repeal of Obamacare? The man is a joke. His budget is a joke. The party that supports his budget is a joke. At least the Democrats are honest about it. Spend, spend, spend.
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McCain may be senile, so I'm not 100% sure of his motivations, but otherwise its a marketing campaign. People from Issa to Graham to any right wing media person know that their audience is full of conspiracy theorists. Therefore you give your ever dwindling but old and angry base what they want to hear. Rile them up and keep your ratings. Flaggy and Opie are a great example of the kind of people they're trying to reach.
McCain may be senile, so I'm not 100% sure of his motivations, but otherwise its a marketing campaign. People from Issa to Graham to any right wing media person know that their audience is full of conspiracy theorists. Therefore you give your ever dwindling but old and angry base what they want to hear. Rile them up and keep your ratings. Flaggy and Opie are a great example of the kind of people they're trying to reach.
dxmnkd316
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My ilk? Treason? Are you off your meds again? Christ you have to be the most simple minded idiot I have ever come across not just on this board, but in life.
My ilk? Treason? Are you off your meds again? Christ you have to be the most simple minded idiot I have ever come across not just on this board, but in life.
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You haven't listened to one of Obama's efforts to make it sound like he's trying to balance the budget or reduce the deficit, eh? Even around here I regularly get arguments that the Dems do as much or more to balance the budget as Republicans do. There isn't a whole lot of honestly from either party about budgetary issues. The tea party folks have their flaws, but they're at least pretty straightforward in pushing for more fiscal responsibility (cue up people freaking out about the tea party).
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