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2nd Term Part VII: You May Like Your Doctor But You Can't Keep Her

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Interesting. A California venture capitalist is claiming that California is too diverse, politically, geographically and economically (which he also thinks is too large for a state) to be governed as a single body. He wants the state split into six states. This would also bring us two shy of that magical 57 count.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/30/technology/california-split-draper/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
I've seen people talk about splitting California in two, but never six before. That's all we need is a dozen California senators! Maybe we could merge all of New England into a single state to balance it out.
 
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Texas can become 6, too! :)

Texas is a different beast altogether, though. There are pretty much four cities where the bulk of commerce take place, all relatively close together for western standards, and it could only feasibly be split into three states, if such a plan were set forth - there's just so much ranch land when you move north and west of Dallas.
 
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Because this discussion does not belong in the NFL thread:

Gore never claimed to have invented the internet either, but that stuck too.

During the 2000 presidential primaries, "...During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." While VP Gore's intent was something different, he did say the words.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
 
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Because this discussion does not belong in the NFL thread:



During the 2000 presidential primaries, "...During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." While VP Gore's intent was something different, he did say the words.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
Hey, Gore is saving the world. The least we can do is give him credit for inventing the internet also!
 
Re: 2nd Term Part VII: You May Like Your Doctor But You Can't Keep Her

Because this discussion does not belong in the NFL thread:



During the 2000 presidential primaries, "...During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet." While VP Gore's intent was something different, he did say the words.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Hey, Gore is saving the world. The least we can do is give him credit for inventing the internet also!

You both realize the create and invent mean different things...right?
 
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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." -- George W Bush, 5 August 2004

So I guess he really was threatening America... I mean, if we're going to be all literal then the former president needs to be arrested for high treason.
 
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He did neither one

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology

"Gore's legislation also helped fund the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where a team of programmers, including Netscape founder Marc Andreessen, created the Mosaic Web browser, the commercial Internet's technological springboard. 'If it had been left to private industry, it wouldn't have happened,' Andreessen says of Gore's bill, 'at least, not until years later"

"Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high-speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1993. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises"

So yes, he did sponsor, write, and support legislation that helped create the internet. It's a fact like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. There is no internet across the country (and world) without government support, and Al Gore was one of the catalysts in government to get it going. Could he have said it in a less dickish way and in a manner that made it seem like there were others in support of those programs? Yup. But at the end of the day, he still did, in a very literal sense, help create the internet.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_technology

"Gore's legislation also helped fund the National Center for Supercomputing Applications at the University of Illinois, where a team of programmers, including Netscape founder Marc Andreessen, created the Mosaic Web browser, the commercial Internet's technological springboard. 'If it had been left to private industry, it wouldn't have happened,' Andreessen says of Gore's bill, 'at least, not until years later"

"Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,

As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high-speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1993. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises"

So yes, he did sponsor, write, and support legislation that helped create the internet. It's a fact like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west. There is no internet across the country (and world) without government support, and Al Gore was one of the catalysts in government to get it going. Could he have said it in a less dickish way and in a manner that made it seem like there were others in support of those programs? Yup. But at the end of the day, he still did, in a very literal sense, help create the internet.

:eek:
 
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Could he have said it in a less dickish way and in a manner that made it seem like there were others in support of those programs? Yup. But at the end of the day, he still did, in a very literal sense, help create the internet.

So along with 434 other members of Congress he helped create the internet.
 
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So along with 434 other members of Congress he helped create the internet.

Yep. And along with 731,448 other Alaskans, Sarah Palin is an expert on Russian Foreign Policy.
 
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Let me know when the Tin Man came up with the idea to network all of the world's computers, strung some remote computers together via wire and servers, wrote the code to get them to communicate with each other, performed the testing, and launched the project. Then we can talk about who actually took the initiative in creating the Internet. Taking part in legislation that threw money at the project does not give Gore license to broadly claim he helped "create" the Internet. To do so is disingenuous to the pioneers and figures who actually did the work. Tim Berners-Lee ring a bell? Oh wait, he's British, we can't have foreigners taking any of the credit. ;)
 
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Let me know when the Tin Man came up with the idea to network all of the world's computers, strung some remote computers together via wire and servers, wrote the code to get them to communicate with each other, performed the testing, and launched the project. Then we can talk about who actually took the initiative in creating the Internet. Taking part in legislation that threw money at the project does not give Gore license to broadly claim he helped "create" the Internet. To do so is disingenuous to the pioneers and figures who actually did the work. Tim Berners-Lee ring a bell? Oh wait, he's British, we can't have foreigners taking any of the credit. ;)
He wrote the legislation so they'd have the money to do all those things. You didn't think private enterprise paid for it, did you? Companies like Xerox and IBM had first crack at this new technology and passed. Or in the vernacular: they didn't build this.
 
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