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2nd Term Part VII: You May Like Your Doctor But You Can't Keep Her

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I like it. Put out a tweet that everybody knows is true (check out some conservative comments as of late), let it linger for a bit, then issue an apology. Point made!

;)
 
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I like it. Put out a tweet that everybody knows is true (check out some conservative comments as of late), let it linger for a bit, then issue an apology. Point made!

;)

I think/hope you're being facetious, but to take the words of a few loud-mouthed morons and apply it to an entire base is a bit ridiculous.
 
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Funny how the Iraq Thingy doesn't seem to bother some folks.

Maybe the fewer the Americans killed through incompetence... the worse? :confused:


Oh yeah, and old man, how about some new material? Still with the "Skillets?" :rolleyes:

The original point.

I know Fox has had issues with getting some (a lot) of politically charged facts correct over the years, but have they ever gone out of their way to make accusations of racial bigotry directed at an entire political party? I don't watch the station, but I will pass by the website once a day to see if anything catches my eye, like this one did.

Your point being that 'Fox is not that bad'?

'This president, I think, has exposed himself over and over again as a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture… I’m not saying he doesn’t like white people, I’m saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist.'

To congressman Keith Ellingson: ‘Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.'

We can play this game all day long.
 
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It's not surprising really, but MSNBC can't do anything right.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/3...ry-for-offensive-tweet-about-biracial-family/



The apologetic tweet read, "Earlier, this account tweeted an offensive line about the new Cheerios ad. We deeply regret it. It does not reflect the position of msnbc."

The story goes on to a number of statements made by MSNBC that have equated being a Republican, some specifically mentioned, to being a bigot. That's a great news network they have there.

Is that even a new commercial? It's been around for a year or so now. Of course, when it did first start showing there were a bunch of online comments against it, but those were isolated *******s and not part of any specific party or grouping.
 
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The original point.



Your point being that 'Fox is not that bad'?

'This president, I think, has exposed himself over and over again as a guy who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture… I’m not saying he doesn’t like white people, I’m saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist.'

To congressman Keith Ellingson: ‘Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies.'

We can play this game all day long.

I don't watch Fox, so I can't say. I certainly don't hear about them going after all lefties as being (insert bigoted comment). Maybe it's just old hat so people have stopped responding to it. The examples you provide are aimed at specific people, which is dumb in and of itself, especially their kick on Ellingson, as much as I dislike him. Though I do think that they might have the measure of Pres. Obama, assuming this has to do with all of the race baiting he did surrounding the Treyvon Martin killing, "If I had a son, he'd look like Treyvon Martin."
 
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Is that even a new commercial? It's been around for a year or so now. Of course, when it did first start showing there were a bunch of online comments against it, but those were isolated *******s and not part of any specific party or grouping.

The commercial is about two months old. The article mentioned that Cheerio's said it would air during the Super Bowl, which probably caused MSNBC to spout off like they did.
 
The commercial is about two months old. The article mentioned that Cheerio's said it would air during the Super Bowl, which probably caused MSNBC to spout off like they did.

It's a sequel to last year's commercial, which generated more than a few racially motivated responses.
 
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LOLZ

You really gonna go there? Change the word "choice" with "life" and you've pegged every evangelical in this country... you know... values voters.

Difference between your generalization and mine is that mine is actually true.

While I'm more or less pro choice, I'm not a monomaniac about it. Under the rubric of "women's health," you guys have only two items: abortion and birth control. Other than that, like the punch line of the old joke--"If she dies, she dies."
 
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I don't watch Fox, so I can't say. I certainly don't hear about them going after all lefties as being (insert bigoted comment).

You probably wouldn't. Its like lambasting rightwingers for trying to destroy the US military. Its an argument that makes no sense.

Larger point is that Fox is the most racist media organization out there...there are easily more racist quotes floating around from Fox than from any other news outlet.
 
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I think/hope you're being facetious, but to take the words of a few loud-mouthed morons and apply it to an entire base is a bit ridiculous.

I am to some extent, however the problem on the right isn't contained to a few loud-mouthed morons. Of the GOP House, over half are Talibanesque social conservatives, which is why talk about libidos and rape victims not getting pregnant keep happening over and over and over again. I have to assume that these people represent their constituents faithfully, and these voters approve of these stances their reps are taking. You personally might not like that (not sure of your leanings on this) but as I often tell rigthies when we have these dicussions, this is no longer your father's Republican party and the sooner the normal people who make up the minority of the conservative base realize that, the better off you're going to be.
 
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I am to some extent, however the problem on the right isn't contained to a few loud-mouthed morons. Of the GOP House, over half are Talibanesque social conservatives, which is why talk about libidos and rape victims not getting pregnant keep happening over and over and over again. I have to assume that these people represent their constituents faithfully, and these voters approve of these stances their reps are taking. You personally might not like that (not sure of your leanings on this) but as I often tell rigthies when we have these dicussions, this is no longer your father's Republican party and the sooner the normal people who make up the minority of the conservative base realize that, the better off you're going to be.

I guess I see it as an old bell curve. I don't think the overall mode has shifted, but the mean may have shifted further right. I honestly believe this.
 
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I guess I see it as an old bell curve. I don't think the overall mode has shifted, but the mean may have shifted further right. I honestly believe this.


Your guess is as good as mine. My thinking on the GOP is that the Tea Party types are going to pull a Little Ralphie Nader and try to go 3rd party more often, only to find that all they're doing is helping to elect more Dems, at which time they'll return to the fold and try to act a little less crazy. The problem is with another Nader-like debacle to scare people straight, you don't often get a glaring example of this cutting off your nose to spite your face phenomenon that whiny liberals were forced to confront after the 2000 election.
 
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Your guess is as good as mine. My thinking on the GOP is that the Tea Party types are going to pull a Little Ralphie Nader and try to go 3rd party more often, only to find that all they're doing is helping to elect more Dems, at which time they'll return to the fold and try to act a little less crazy. The problem is with another Nader-like debacle to scare people straight, you don't often get a glaring example of this cutting off your nose to spite your face phenomenon that whiny liberals were forced to confront after the 2000 election.


No they won't.
 
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Your guess is as good as mine. My thinking on the GOP is that the Tea Party types are going to pull a Little Ralphie Nader and try to go 3rd party more often, only to find that all they're doing is helping to elect more Dems, at which time they'll return to the fold and try to act a little less crazy. The problem is with another Nader-like debacle to scare people straight, you don't often get a glaring example of this cutting off your nose to spite your face phenomenon that whiny liberals were forced to confront after the 2000 election.
Disagree on all counts. This is the cycle we get a Tea Party nominee for President of the United States and it will the Republican Party that nominates this person.
 
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Disagree on all counts. This is the cycle we get a Tea Party nominee for President of the United States and it will the Republican Party that nominates this person.

Joe the Plumber is already booking appearances and kicking tires.
 
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Might as well bring it over here from the Nice Planet thread because it is now a bit more appropriate... Chief Shane Harger of Jemez NM has had his police force disbanded by the federal government (as enforced by the Sheriff's Dept) for his and his deputies' belief in protecting and upholding the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Harger was placed on administrative leave (originally reported as fired, but since changed). Here's an interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItAiG6K6WK4

Obviously very similar to Mark Kessler, but less cussing.
 
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Disagree on all counts. This is the cycle we get a Tea Party nominee for President of the United States and it will the Republican Party that nominates this person.


Interesting. I personally have no idea where the GOP is going. Hell we might even end up with Jeb Bush, which would undoubtably trigger a Teabagger 3rd party bid. Same thing would happen if Christie was the nominee, which I've stated before Bridgegate happened was a slim possibility.
 
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Interesting. I personally have no idea where the GOP is going. Hell we might even end up with Jeb Bush, which would undoubtably trigger a Teabagger 3rd party bid. Same thing would happen if Christie was the nominee, which I've stated before Bridgegate happened was a slim possibility.

Where I do agree with you partially is this. If the Republicans AGAIN nominate an establishment guy like Christie or Jebby they have no chance in hell of getting anything cause the revolt will be staggering.
 
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