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2nd Term, Part VI: Burnin' down the House

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ScoobyDoo said:
Senate has reached a deal.

Bone man to visit with his party at 3 EST.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...t-with-diminishing-options-on-budget-impasse/
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Headline tomorrow: The Boner Gets Boned! ;)

Must be nice to know that the only reason he still has his job is because nobody else wants it. :D

I too will wait until the votes are cast before jumping to conclusions, but I might have to change the nickname Useless Harry Reid to Hardball Harry Reid. For once in his miserable life, Reid was stellar in these negotiations. Too bad it only took him 6 years to learn his job...
 
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Rover said:
Headline tomorrow: The Boner Gets Boned! ;)

Must be nice to know that the only reason he still has his job is because nobody else wants it. :D

I too will wait until the votes are cast before jumping to conclusions, but I might have to change the nickname Useless Harry Reid to Hardball Harry Reid. For once in his miserable life, Reid was stellar in these negotiations. Too bad it only took him 6 years to learn his job...
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Not over yet. I'm guessing the headline will be more along the lines of, "Boner Jumps Off Cliff With Ted Cruz: US Default Imminent".
 
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From slate blog

Perhaps more importantly, Sen. Ted Cruz said that he has no plans to try to stall action in the Senate, news that greatly increases the chances that the deal could clear both chambers before the end of the day. Asked by reporters if if he'd block a quick vote, the Texan Republican answered: "Of course not."
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Priceless said:
From slate blog
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So, the Bone Man and Cruz are giving the unconditional surrender after all. I thought the Bone Man wasn't amenable to the unconditional surrender? Very confusing. Hannity will pop at least 40 bolts tonight on his show.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
So, the Bone Man and Cruz are giving the unconditional surrender after all. I thought the Bone Man wasn't amenable to the unconditional surrender? Very confusing. Hannity will pop at least 40 bolts tonight on his show.
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Nah, he'll find a way to spin it.

Something like the tea-baggin' patriots putting the good of the country ahead of the partisan politics that Obama and his Dem henchman are engaging in.

Count on it.
 
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What's worrying is the possibility of doing this all again in January. The House probably won't try to gut Obamacare again, but I'll bet they'll hold out for some spending cuts which might get a bit more popular support. We'll see how much the current circus has weakened this particular tactic.

I think it won't go over well. It'll be ancient history come next November, but 3 months is close enough people will get a strong sense of deja vu.
 
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Twitch Boy said:
What's worrying is the possibility of doing this all again in January. The House probably won't try to gut Obamacare again, but I'll bet they'll hold out for some spending cuts which might get a bit more popular support. We'll see how much the current circus has weakened this particular tactic.

I think it won't go over well. It'll be ancient history come next November, but 3 months is close enough people will get a strong sense of deja vu.
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I don't think the Teapublicans are going to be that eager to go down this road again. They shutdown the government, got no concessions from Democrats they didn't already have two weeks ago and have taken a beating in the polls.
 
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Priceless said:
I don't think the Teapublicans are going to be that eager to go down this road again. They shutdown the government, got no concessions from Democrats they didn't already have two weeks ago and have taken a beating in the polls.
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Well, considering that they could singlehandedly cause the government to go into default, blame it on Obama in the media and have pretty much their entire base believe it... why would they do anything any different?
 
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ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Well, considering that they could singlehandedly cause the government to go into default, blame it on Obama in the media and have pretty much their entire base believe it... why would they do anything any different?
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That's why I'm confused about today's events. There's numerous Senators and Representatives that don't believe what they've been told about default.
 
ExileOnDaytonStreet said:
Well, considering that they could singlehandedly cause the government to go into default, blame it on Obama in the media and have pretty much their entire base believe it... why would they do anything any different?
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How'd that work out for them this time? Obama's numbers are the same or better and their popularity is at an all time low.
 
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Priceless said:
How'd that work out for them this time? Obama's numbers are the same or better and their popularity is at an all time low.
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And they still have full support within their district. Overall poll numbers mean literally nothing.
 
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Priceless said:
How'd that work out for them this time? Obama's numbers are the same or better and their popularity is at an all time low.
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They're not worried about being elected so what did they have to lose by going all in? They don't believe in default.
 
ScoobyDoo said:
They're not worried about being elected so what did they have to lose by going all in? They don't believe in default.
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The Teapublicans from gerrymandered districts, but some of these Republicans are from districts that may have been safe before but even they can't survive these poll numbers. That's why they are folding. If they really felt secure why not keep this going?

Boner just said there won't be any procedural delays in the House and C-SPAN expects a vote around 9 or 10 tonight.


ETA: Cruz scheduled a press conference at the same time McConnell went to the Senate floor to announce the deal. Cruz praised the Teapublicans in the House for showing a "profile in courage" in shutting down the government and castigated his colleagues in the Senate for having the audacity to work out a deal.
 
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Priceless said:
The Teapublicans from gerrymandered districts, but some of these Republicans are from districts that may have been safe before but even they can't survive these poll numbers. That's why they are folding. If they really felt secure why not keep this going?

Boner just said there won't be any procedural delays in the House and C-SPAN expects a vote around 9 or 10 tonight.
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So, basically the end result is this:

They shutdown the government for nothing. And basically they were shutting down the government over issues that any rational human being would've considered over and decided during the last Presidential election. And now, again, that election has been affirmed. Sorry righties you only have yourselves to blame for the Mitt Romney debacle. No one else.

I hope the money they wasted and the money that was lost during this shutdown including any increase in interest rates etc. is directly charged against the Republicans during the budget negotiations.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
I hope the money they wasted and the money that was lost during this shutdown including any increase in interest rates etc. is directly charged against the Republicans during the budget negotiations.
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It won't be. Dems are pansies. Always have been. Always will be.

They'll try to build consensus and then be shocked (SHOCKED, I say) when the Republicans keep moving the goal posts.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
They're not worried about being elected so what did they have to lose by going all in? They don't believe in default.
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You have less than a 10% chance of being defeated in either the primary or the general. You think anyone in Congress is worried? Of the 430 or so seats in the House, how many are considered swing seats?

So why bother to listen to your constituents? They're pulling the lever based on party, not the person. The Congressman is voting for party, not district.
 
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