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2nd Term Part IX - How Lame is my Duck

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FlagDUDE08 said:
1. Then why have many small businesses in Seattle shut down or severely limited labour opportunities?
2. That only affects those that are considered salaried. It won't affect those you're trying to target, because they are considered self employed.
3. Still have to refine it. Or did you think some magic genie in the pipe would transform the stuff into the necessary products?
4. Although I disagree with the politics, one quote from The American President sticks out in my mind: "I was too busy trying to keep my job that I forgot to do my job." It's called pandering for the Hispanic vote and attempting to not seem raaaaa-cist.
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1. Hasn't happened in Minnesota. We raised it here again.
2. No it affects everyone. Everyone pays payroll taxes.
3. I don't give two ****s about refining Canada's oil.
4. One side wants comprehensive reform with lots of compromise. The other side does not. Who's pandering?
 
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Kepler said:
This would be a great point except (1) the developed countries with the strongest minimum wage laws also have the most social mobility, and (2) FDR's reforms launched the US on the greatest period of prosperity and the development of the largest and most prosperous middle class the world has ever known.
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I see you're trying to compare countries without taking scale into account. Your argument might have a shot if the Tenth Amendment stood for anything. Too bad, it doesn't.

As for FDR's stuff, it looks like you completely forgot about the recession of 1937. The only thing that took the US out of that was World War II, which BTW, is when the wage freeze was instituted; NOT during the "New Deal". Employment benefits, such as health coverage, were created as a loophole to get around the price ceiling of wages and attempt to keep some sort of supply and demand that the communist wanted to completely stop.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
1. Hasn't happened in Minnesota. We raised it here again.
2. No it affects everyone. Everyone pays payroll taxes.
3. I don't give two ****s about refining Canada's oil.
4. One side wants comprehensive reform with lots of compromise. The other side does not. Who's pandering?
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The fact that you used the word "compromise" when describing today's legislative and executive branches is the biggest load of bull I have ever read from you. The last the country was this partisan was in the 1850's. There's no compromise anywhere.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
As for FDR's stuff, it looks like you completely forgot about the recession of 1937.
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Not at all. The recession of 1937 was caused by FDR prematurely withdrawing many of the more aggressive New Deal provisions because he personally and many of his inner circle were getting tremendous heat as "class traitors."

But thank you for trotting out yet another talking point from Heritage and Norquist's ATR.

Do you really think those guys have your back, Flag? Because from here (about 10 miles from the national HQ of both orgs) they look like ruthless kleptocrats churning out endless streams of agitprop for a million middle class useful idiots who will be among the hardest hit by the policies they advocate.
 
FlagDUDE08 said:
1. Then why have many small businesses in Seattle shut down or severely limited labour opportunities?
2. That only affects those that are considered salaried. It won't affect those you're trying to target, because they are considered self employed.
3. Still have to refine it. Or did you think some magic genie in the pipe would transform the stuff into the necessary products?
4. Although I disagree with the politics, one quote from The American President sticks out in my mind: "I was too busy trying to keep my job that I forgot to do my job." It's called pandering for the Hispanic vote and attempting to not seem raaaaa-cist.
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They just move it by rail car like they do now. 100 of cars come thru maine headed to a refinery in new brunswick.
 
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Before we hear how horrible Obama has been with the veto pen, just a reminder than he has used the veto the least of any two-term president since Lincoln.
 
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Priceless said:
Before we hear how horrible Obama has been with the veto pen, just a reminder than he has used the veto the least of any two-term president since Lincoln.
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Because he hasn't had to; he's had favorable Congress. Plus, Lincoln only had half the Congress.

In speaking of veto, opening up Facebook, one of my favorite quotes ever: :rolleyes:

Vetoing the Keystone XL pipeline is just another way of yelling ALLAHU AKBAR!
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Kepler said:
Not at all. The recession of 1937 was caused by FDR prematurely withdrawing many of the more aggressive New Deal provisions because he personally and many of his inner circle were getting tremendous heat as "class traitors."

But thank you for trotting out yet another talking point from Heritage and Norquist's ATR.

Do you really think those guys have your back, Flag? Because from here (about 10 miles from the national HQ of both orgs) they look like ruthless kleptocrats churning out endless streams of agitprop for a million middle class useful idiots who will be among the hardest hit by the policies they advocate.
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You're the last person who should be talking about talking points, given that's just fodder used by the fascists to push an oppressive government.

The only person that will ever have my back is me. I'm not naïve. The trick is to adapt to situations as they come.
 
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FlagDUDE08 said:
The further it has to go by rail, the more expensive it becomes.
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They'll get the crude price up so its profitable again. Irving loves the stuff, if they can move it to New Brunswick, they can move it anywhere. Its far more profitable than North Shore crude for Irving
 
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dxmnkd316 said:
Except not really. Not until they remove the $1x0,000 cap on it. Until then, it's just an extremely regressive flat tax.
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Yeah, that's the part I want fixed. But, everyone pays it so why am I getting static that everyone doesn't? Makes no sense.
 
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ScoobyDoo said:
We don't need a stimulus right now. We need a minimum wage, wage equality, and real middle class tax reform. Instead we're passing a pipeline for a foreign company and defunding Homeland Security so we can deport people.
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I would think the lefts of center would be anti-DHS because of our rights being <strike>trampled</strike> eroded by DHS.
 
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The joke here, of course, is that both the Tea Partiers and the Occupiers have vested interests in de-funding DHS. Righties in border states want big budget cuts and an excuse to take potshots at trespassers who look brown-ish. Lefties want open borders and fewer "pigs in uniform".
 
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FadeToBlack&Gold said:
The joke here, of course, is that both the Tea Partiers and the Occupiers have vested interests in de-funding DHS. Righties in border states want big budget cuts and an excuse to take potshots at trespassers who look brown-ish. Lefties want open borders and fewer "pigs in uniform".
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What would you do to trespassers?
And having cops is nice, but having a local police force that is better armed than many countries is a bit too much.
 
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